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						| action man | 
								|  | « Reply #750 on: December 12, 2011, 10:42:31 PM » |  | 
 
 not betting but wouldnt like to take the -10 in a diviional game
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						| the sicilian | 
								|  | « Reply #751 on: December 12, 2011, 10:45:33 PM » |  | 
 
   Landed a sweet tenfold on Jacksonville, Atlanta, Giants, Arizona, Houston, Denver, San Diego, Detroit, Patriots & Green Bay
 Got an 11fold with all those and Seattle tonight.
 
 Also landed a "touch" on a 1st touchdown 4 fold, went for Sanchez @ 50s, Laurent Robinson @ 12s, Early Douchet @ 22s & Ryan Grant @ 11s.
 
 Also got on Ryan Taylor 2nd td in the Green Bay game @ 100s.
 
 They were the only 4 bets I had this weekend.
 
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						| gatso | 
								|  | « Reply #752 on: December 12, 2011, 10:54:24 PM » |  | 
 
 just finished watching last night's game. that is why I love nfl, abs incredible. eli is amazing |  
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						| redarmi | 
								|  | « Reply #753 on: December 12, 2011, 11:19:35 PM » |  | 
 
 Bit boring but I can't really see past Marshawn Lynch for first TD scorer.  My thinking is pretty simple.  They are probably 66% to score first and they have a pretty equal split of rushing and passing TD's this year but Lynch has scored 80% of their rushing TD's this year so his price is 0.66*.5*.80=26.4% chance of scoring first and 4/1 available.  26.4*5=EV of $132.  Where am I going wrong?
 I think Jones uses a similar formula when pricing up for us lot  If I backed as many winners as Jones I probably wouldn't bother either ;-) |  
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						| action man | 
								|  | « Reply #754 on: December 12, 2011, 11:47:39 PM » |  | 
 
 had the £50 i got back from 365 on rams by 13-18 points at 18/1 |  
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						| LeKnave | 
								|  | « Reply #755 on: December 13, 2011, 12:00:53 AM » |  | 
 
 not betting but wouldnt like to take the -10 in a diviional game
 
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						| LeKnave | 
								|  | « Reply #756 on: December 13, 2011, 12:12:50 AM » |  | 
 
 Bit boring but I can't really see past Marshawn Lynch for first TD scorer.  My thinking is pretty simple.  They are probably 66% to score first and they have a pretty equal split of rushing and passing TD's this year but Lynch has scored 80% of their rushing TD's this year so his price is 0.66*.5*.80=26.4% chance of scoring first and 4/1 available.  26.4*5=EV of $132.  Where am I going wrong?
 I think Jones uses a similar formula when pricing up for us lot  If I backed as many winners as Jones I probably wouldn't bother either ;-)yeah i'm with you on that m8, have backed Lynch first seahawk @ 23/10 with PaddyPower. |  
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						| LeKnave | 
								|  | « Reply #757 on: December 13, 2011, 12:13:31 AM » |  | 
 
 I think Jones uses a similar formula when pricing up for us lot  ha, lotta work goes into this shit in fairness! |  
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						| ChipRich | 
								|  | « Reply #758 on: December 13, 2011, 12:20:28 AM » |  | 
 
 Baldwin 1st TD/1st Seahawks 16s and 10s
 Lynch 1st Seahawks TD 23/10
 
 1st TD in game Rushing TD 7/4
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						| Marky147 | 
								|  | « Reply #759 on: December 13, 2011, 12:26:32 AM » |  | 
 
 I think Jones uses a similar formula when pricing up for us lot  ha, lotta work goes into this shit in fairness!Yeah I can imagine there is a fair bit of research and team knowledge that's required for the bets, having to look into players/injuries and likely starters etc. I'm trying to get my head around it a little more even though I'm still really green as far as the game goes. I've even taken to reading bits on Wikipedia of all places to try and understand things a little better   |  
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						| adnmdv | 
								|  | « Reply #760 on: December 13, 2011, 12:53:50 AM » |  | 
 
 Bit boring but I can't really see past Marshawn Lynch for first TD scorer.  My thinking is pretty simple.  They are probably 66% to score first and they have a pretty equal split of rushing and passing TD's this year but Lynch has scored 80% of their rushing TD's this year so his price is 0.66*.5*.80=26.4% chance of scoring first and 4/1 available.  26.4*5=EV of $132.  Where am I going wrong?
 I'm a complete NFL fish in terms of knowledge of the game, so I may well be wrong here but just looking from the stats, in general, teams score a significantly greater % of TDs from passing rather than rushing - only one side this season is R>P. This season SEA have got 10/23 TDs rushing = 43.4% (so 50% seems pretty loose here?). Last year was 40%, not sure how you can justify 50% here.  |  
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						| LeedsRhodesy | 
								|  | « Reply #761 on: December 13, 2011, 01:23:46 AM » |  | 
 
 Baldwin 1st TD/1st Seahawks 16s and 10s
 
 
 
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						| ChipRich | 
								|  | « Reply #762 on: December 13, 2011, 01:27:42 AM » |  | 
 
 Baldwin 1st TD/1st Seahawks 16s and 10s
 
 
 
 On..........now what number is he please!!!15 |  
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						| LeedsRhodesy | 
								|  | « Reply #763 on: December 13, 2011, 01:30:31 AM » |  | 
 
 Baldwin 1st TD/1st Seahawks 16s and 10s
 
 
 
 On..........now what number is he please!!!15TY Ty   on -10 to get gogogogo |  
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						| redarmi | 
								|  | « Reply #764 on: December 13, 2011, 01:36:50 AM » |  | 
 
 I'm a complete NFL fish in terms of knowledge of the game, so I may well be wrong here but just looking from the stats, in general, teams score a significantly greater % of TDs from passing rather than rushing - only one side this season is R>P. This season SEA have got 10/23 TDs rushing = 43.4% (so 50% seems pretty loose here?). Last year was 40%, not sure how you can justify 50% here.
 
 Yeah....I was fairly loose in my estimations but I am assuming that they will run more tonight because the Rams have the worst rushing defense in football but it is tough to be totally accurate.  The 66% is fairly loose too and when you take the proportions for the team to score first TD they are probably slightly bigger than 66% too.  Even if we use .436*.66*.80 we get 23.03% so I am pretty sure he is value irrespective although obviously not having an accurate figure might mean that you overstake slightly but I bet a smaller percentage of kelly on these first TD scorers anyway because I am not massively confident of my prices and I also bets some of Jones' too and I want a bigger sample size of his before I bet them bigger. |  
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