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« Reply #2115 on: April 01, 2014, 07:20:03 AM »

Don't waste money tipping the cab driver - the chances of getting in his cab again is slim
Tip the maid who looks after your room from day 1 - I leave 5/10$ a day
Tip the barman where you're drinking - you shouldn't have to wait too long for another , same with cocktail waitresses if you're planning a few drinks while playing a table game . I tip 5/10$ to start and say keep them coming and they do
FFS DONT KEEP TELLING BAD BEAT STORIES THEY ARE SO IRRITATING , EXCEPT MINE OFC
DONT FALL ASLEEP WITH A HOOKER IN YOUR ROOM !!! THEY WILL ROB YOU / YOUR MATES STUFF
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They can make your stay more comfortable with new sheets clean towels plus like Ryan says they are more inclined to do requests for water ,I once never tipped when I got home realised I had ' lost ' a couple of shirts
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« Reply #2116 on: April 01, 2014, 07:34:31 AM »

Being polite to the maid doesn't hurt either. Saying good morning and having a couple of minutes' chat did me no harm. Got extra chocolates and coffee as standard. Bring nice is underrated.
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« Reply #2117 on: April 01, 2014, 07:54:17 AM »

All my coins go in an envelope for the virgin change for children charity on the way home
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« Reply #2118 on: April 01, 2014, 09:15:49 AM »

Yeah didn't mention tipping as it usually runs away a bit, but as we are there...let's cover it.

First of all, don't be the guy that says "I don't tip for this back home so I'm not doing it here"  No-one likes the Euro-tourist who comes over to the UK and refuses to embrace our traditions and culture.  Tipping is a massive part of Vegas, many jobs that wouldn't even be provided over here are able to be created offering minimum ( or even zero) wage and then effectively working for tips.  Which is why generally they don't like serving Brits.  That doesn't mean you have to give it all away to everyone with their hand out either. 

In Vegas, there is a thin line between tipping for service and bribery for discretionary service.  Just about any worker that has any sort of discretion at all will exercise that discretion not in the best interests of the hotel, but in the best interests of themselves.  Put simply, they can give the best freebies away to those that tip the best for it.  If you aren't tipping well, that's not you.  Here's a snip from another thread:

Without turning this into a tipping thread, a couple more examples of good tips  investments:

1.  Room maid.  Depends what sort of room/suite/facilities you have in the room and how clean and tidy you are.  Have a chat with her at the start of the stay, tell her if you want extra towels, more lotion, extra choccy, a razor, cutlery, want her to do the washing up, NEVER knock before midday, whatever it is you want.  Either give her a good % of the tip for the stay up front (check she is the regular maid and not the relief maid covering a day off..) or feed her a $10 every couple of days and see the difference it makes.  Obv as above, if you don't care for any of that, just leave her an appreciation as you see fit at the end of your stay and experience a regular set-up in the room.  I've had fruit appear in the room, am still using shave gel from 2006!! (left $20 and asked for razors, shave gel and some extra choc, couldn't open the fridge door for choc and still have enough shave gel to last another couple of years..)  Obviously that iosn't the culture over here, tip the room maid in a Premier Inn £10 and it will make absolutely no difference to the service you get...

2.  The valet.  In Bellagio, you probably aren't going to get much traction, but tipping a few bucks to have them park the car is one of the best deals in town.  It wouldn't ordinarily make the list as that tip is expected, but you can get additional services...  In quieter hotels, I have had valets do all sorts, fetch me books from the book store, change a battery in the remote key fob, buy a case of soft drinks, continually have the car parked right next to the valet station and somehow the car be ready ahead of the long line...  And obviously I didn't get that by asking nicely....  Also, a long time ago, I pulled up late for a tournament in the valet Q.. the "Valet FULL" sign was up and a valet snarled at the guy in front of me and pointed him towards self park.  Again, this didn't look to be a good situation as the valet approached me, so I jumped out, gave him $10 and said "think you can find room?"  "Absolutely, do you need directions inside?"

3. Reducing wait times in restaurants.  This one is a bit grey-er because I realise that probably someone else got shafted in the process.  Given a buzzer in a popular restaurant, told to wait at the bar for 75-90 mins for a table, I turned round and saw a bar 4-deep and an awful lot of buzzers....  So I turned to the greeter, "Hey, I'm gonna bet you $20 that you can't get me one of the booths inside 20 minutes."(nice leather seashell booth round the outside rather than tables jam-packed on top of each other in the middle of the floor)  "You have yourself a bet sir."  No more than 5 minutes later the buzzer goes off and I am being led to a booth.  My dining companion commented on what a shit bet that was.... then about 40 minutes later, the penny dropped and "Ohhhhhhhhhhhh.... ICWUDT..."

So that's the maid, the valet and the restaurant front staff covered.  Here are some others:

Tourny staff:  Generally in Vegas, with the presence of dealer bonus chips and prizepool % withholds, then when it comes to a further tip... phuqqum.  Even more so in WSOP where although I have a smallish sample size, I have encountered a very high percentage of rude, lazy unmotivated and unskilled tourny dealers.  (Ofc there are good ones too, but it's going into a pool, and I'm not leaving anything for a dealer to be unnecessarily rude to me)

Door Openers I generally never tip these, if these roles didn't exist tomorrow, it wouldn't make a difference to my stay.  The one exception is the guy organising the line for taxis.  If he wasn't there doing his thing, your 10 minute wait for a taxi would be a half hour wait, a dollar is all that it takes to show an appreciation of it.

Wait Staff Yes yes, I know you only leave £2 back home.  But back home, you weren't waited on by 2 dedicated servers, a drinks bus boy, a team of bar staff, a sommelier and a whole bunch of other people to boot.  That's a lot of service that you are getting, even if you don't notice you are getting it. For the most part, your waiter will work his/her arse off for you.  Drinks auto-topped up, food brought out swiftly, with empowerment to correct anything that is wrong or just not to your liking and remove anything from the bill that wasn't good, without the fuss of getting 5 general managers in on it.  When you stop and think, you generally ARE getting much better service in restaurants than you do back home, so it is ok surely to tip better than you do back home?  15% is "meh" and 20% is an allright tip.

Hotel Front desk The $20 trick has been covered to death, but suffice to say, the last upgrade to a suite that a clerk has at her disposal could go to the nice young couple celebrating their honeymoon or the fat slob of a poker player that is being rude.  Yes, the honeymoon couple has the edge.  Now if the poker player stopped being rude and started being polite and waved a $20 around, the honeymooners are 10-1 dogs.

Bar staff It is pretty much considered mandatory in US anywhere to tip your bar server.  In Vegas, looking after your bar tender ofc comes with extra perks.  Tipping a buck a drink will get you decent, but expected service.  Tipping a bit heavier than that will get you another level of service entirely.  There is a limit to what they can do as they are all on camera, but whatever it is they can do, they will do it for you.  They will be able to advise/pour you the very best quality spirits that they are allowed to if you are drinking on a comp, and when things are busy, you will get looked after while others wait.

Vegas local discount on production of a Nevada Licence  If you are still waiting for your Vegas driver's licence to arrive in the mail, you'll find $5 will often be an acceptable alternative proof of residency!

OK, I think you get the idea.  Over here, tip £X and you lose £X.  Over there, tip $Y and you gain > $Y.
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« Reply #2119 on: April 01, 2014, 11:27:41 AM »

Don't  discount playing tourneys down town binions and the nugget usually have the best /slowest clock with the most chips and there's enough runners to make a win worthwhile ,
Yes the waitresses are ugly / old ,some of the players smell of piss n sweat but it's character forming stuff
Nugget dealers in the tourney are agency so not the best ,but binions dealers are superb proficient in all the games and they like to get a bit of table talk going too , most games on the strip are played in virtual silence with little or no craic
Register for a binions tourney and you get a 5$ food comp !I use mine in their cafe / diner where they do a great burger at all hours
There's some great eating places too nowhere near as expensive as on the strip
The tank restaurant in the nugget
Vic and Anthony's in the nugget
Andiamos in the h next door are probably the most expensive but superb
Triple George grill round the corner from binions is superb
Hugos in the 4 queens is supposed to be good
Personally I didn't like Fremont street grill
Just be aware it's a bit rough on Fremont st ,but there's lots of security
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« Reply #2120 on: April 01, 2014, 03:01:45 PM »

Nugget clock this year is down to 30 mins from 40 but larger starting stacks.

100 odd runners on average for the mixed tourneys.   Big rake mind compared to UK tourneys.

Remember they dont help with the tax forms if you win 5k over buy in unlike rio Venetian etc
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« Reply #2121 on: April 01, 2014, 03:10:43 PM »

When do you people think is the best time to go on a fair budget after the WSOP?
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« Reply #2122 on: April 01, 2014, 03:42:06 PM »

When do you people think is the best time to go on a fair budget after the WSOP?

Novembers good esp round Rodeo and/or Venetian DSE

Been in September before weather was hellish hot
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« Reply #2123 on: April 01, 2014, 04:12:35 PM »

I normally give the maid $50 the first morning I catch them when I'm leaving the room, and tell them that I keep rather strange hours. Therefore, I might want my room serviced mid afternoon, or even in the evenings, and appreciate that I'm a pain. As said by others, mention the water etc. and you'll find they can't do enough for you from then on.

I can never understand  the people who only leave their tip at the end of the stay? Seems pointless, because they can't go out of their way for you when you have left!

The lads from my forum got to the Nugget just before me the first time we stayed there, and had struggled to get served at the bar on the Friday night. I soon worked out why, and sorted it out with the first round I bought for the group. I gave Kelly the barman $20 and said that we would look after him if he looked after us.

That was it, for the next 2 weeks we never waited more than a minute to be served, and some of the drinks were that strong we needed separate glasses for our mixers Grin

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« Reply #2124 on: April 01, 2014, 04:15:52 PM »

When do you people think is the best time to go on a fair budget after the WSOP?

If you want to play some poker, then around the festivals that are put on by the Venetian/Wynn.

I know they both have just had them running in late Feb and March.

Bit too ambiguous for anything beyond that though mate Cheesy
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« Reply #2125 on: April 01, 2014, 04:29:21 PM »



Sorry to be politard, but you guys should really swerve the Venetian, it's owner Sheldon Adelson is paying out millions to try and get online poker banned. 

I assume that everyone here enjoys their freedom to play online if they want, so why give patronage to someone who wants to take that away from US players?

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« Reply #2126 on: April 01, 2014, 08:10:21 PM »



Sorry to be politard, but you guys should really swerve the Venetian, it's owner Sheldon Adelson is paying out millions to try and get online poker banned. 

I assume that everyone here enjoys their freedom to play online if they want, so why give patronage to someone who wants to take that away from US players?



+1.

The vile campaign Adelson is running against online poker in the states, is really disgusting.
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« Reply #2127 on: April 01, 2014, 08:29:17 PM »



Sorry to be politard, but you guys should really swerve the Venetian, it's owner Sheldon Adelson is paying out millions to try and get online poker banned. 

I assume that everyone here enjoys their freedom to play online if they want, so why give patronage to someone who wants to take that away from US players?



+1.

The vile campaign Adelson is running against online poker in the states, is really disgusting.

This. I won't set foot in the place now which really annoys Joobs!
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« Reply #2128 on: April 01, 2014, 09:42:03 PM »

Nice posts Marky & Simon - very useful stuff!

Does anyone know the etiquette with tipping when going into clubs? Also, who to tip to get the best deal/service etc.
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« Reply #2129 on: April 03, 2014, 01:33:45 AM »

Nice posts Marky & Simon - very useful stuff!

Does anyone know the etiquette with tipping when going into clubs? Also, who to tip to get the best deal/service etc.

Not been to a club for a few years, but from memory we chucked the host $100 for sorting everything out, and security a drink as well, so that you get a steady supply of bottle rats through the night.

Lil' Dave or someone might be able to add some more insight if anything has changed.
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