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« Reply #10920 on: July 22, 2012, 11:26:59 AM »

Renault says the engine's within regs. This is the standard response of every team that's been hauled before the authorities (Renault makes the engine for red bull).

The sport is built on people pushing the rules: double diffusers, anyone?

Even if it doesn't result in a grid penalty, as has been so elegantly explained already, Red Bull performance will be cut
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« Reply #10921 on: July 22, 2012, 11:27:05 AM »

Hamilton>Webber in a match bet @ 4/6 given opinion and info?

Hamilton starts just ahead, currently

Think 4/6 a touch skinny though

Presumably the penalty is a double whammy for Red Bull though?
They lose places on the grid plus their engines won't perform as well as (previously) expected in the race?

I do not think we can, or should, assume that just because they have been penalised, & charged, RedBull accept their guilt, they may still start in Practice configuration & challenge the Stewards later.
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« Reply #10922 on: July 22, 2012, 11:28:13 AM »

hello blonde, long time lurker, first time poster.
Paddy power has priced up the average number of people to watch the opening ceremony of the olympics as follows;
less than 22mil - 7/4
22-26m - 11/4
26-30m - 11/4
30-34m - 7/2
over 34m - 4/1
 
This seems disproportionally weighted towards the higher figures, for example the England v Italy had  average viewing figures of just over 20m and a peak high of just under 25m. The royal wedding had peak figures (not average) of 25m across two channels. I'd put over 34m at 100/1. The opening ceremony lasts for 3 hours and finishes at midnight i think it incredibly unlikely to average over 26m. Therefore I've bet £100 on less than 22m and £75 on 22-26m which will profit £100ish providing average figures are less than 26m. Thoughts?   

That looks one profitable market for Paddy Power.  5 outcomes top price 4/1.  Close to 1/2 the top 2 alone?  Looks an easy avoid to me.

There - that's the bit of help we needed.
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« Reply #10923 on: July 22, 2012, 11:30:13 AM »

F1 race coverage starts on Sky Ch408 in 2 minutes.
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« Reply #10924 on: July 22, 2012, 11:30:32 AM »

The betting makes it look as though something is amiss for sure.

if the redbulls are excluded, not allowed to race, is the 4/6 taken now valid?

I dont see why not.
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« Reply #10925 on: July 22, 2012, 11:31:00 AM »

hello blonde, long time lurker, first time poster.
Paddy power has priced up the average number of people to watch the opening ceremony of the olympics as follows;
less than 22mil - 7/4
22-26m - 11/4
26-30m - 11/4
30-34m - 7/2
over 34m - 4/1
 
This seems disproportionally weighted towards the higher figures, for example the England v Italy had  average viewing figures of just over 20m and a peak high of just under 25m. The royal wedding had peak figures (not average) of 25m across two channels. I'd put over 34m at 100/1. The opening ceremony lasts for 3 hours and finishes at midnight i think it incredibly unlikely to average over 26m. Therefore I've bet £100 on less than 22m and £75 on 22-26m which will profit £100ish providing average figures are less than 26m. Thoughts?   

That looks one profitable market for Paddy Power.  5 outcomes top price 4/1.  Close to 1/2 the top 2 alone?  Looks an easy avoid to me.

Roughly 1/9 the first 3 outcomes.  So is over 30m a 9/1 shot?   I don't think we need to worry if over 34m should be 100/1.

 I have no feel for this btw.  
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« Reply #10926 on: July 22, 2012, 11:32:27 AM »

hello blonde, long time lurker, first time poster.
Paddy power has priced up the average number of people to watch the opening ceremony of the olympics as follows;
less than 22mil - 7/4
22-26m - 11/4
26-30m - 11/4
30-34m - 7/2
over 34m - 4/1
 
This seems disproportionally weighted towards the higher figures, for example the England v Italy had  average viewing figures of just over 20m and a peak high of just under 25m. The royal wedding had peak figures (not average) of 25m across two channels. I'd put over 34m at 100/1. The opening ceremony lasts for 3 hours and finishes at midnight i think it incredibly unlikely to average over 26m. Therefore I've bet £100 on less than 22m and £75 on 22-26m which will profit £100ish providing average figures are less than 26m. Thoughts?   

That looks one profitable market for Paddy Power.  5 outcomes top price 4/1.  Close to 1/2 the top 2 alone?  Looks an easy avoid to me.

Roughly 1/9 the first 3 outcomes.  So is over 30m a 9/1 shot?   I don't think we need to worry if over 34m should be 100/1.

 I have no feel for this btw. 

No feel here either. Though I suspect 25m+ is a stretch on a Friday night

I will watch it.

Straw poll, who else will watch it?
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« Reply #10927 on: July 22, 2012, 11:33:32 AM »

What about laying Vettell at 3.5.

Even if hes not starting from the back he's got to get past Alonso with extremely fast Mclarens behind.

Think its good value?
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« Reply #10928 on: July 22, 2012, 11:36:12 AM »

hello blonde, long time lurker, first time poster.
Paddy power has priced up the average number of people to watch the opening ceremony of the olympics as follows;
less than 22mil - 7/4
22-26m - 11/4
26-30m - 11/4
30-34m - 7/2
over 34m - 4/1
 
This seems disproportionally weighted towards the higher figures, for example the England v Italy had  average viewing figures of just over 20m and a peak high of just under 25m. The royal wedding had peak figures (not average) of 25m across two channels. I'd put over 34m at 100/1. The opening ceremony lasts for 3 hours and finishes at midnight i think it incredibly unlikely to average over 26m. Therefore I've bet £100 on less than 22m and £75 on 22-26m which will profit £100ish providing average figures are less than 26m. Thoughts?   

That looks one profitable market for Paddy Power.  5 outcomes top price 4/1.  Close to 1/2 the top 2 alone?  Looks an easy avoid to me.

Roughly 1/9 the first 3 outcomes.  So is over 30m a 9/1 shot?   I don't think we need to worry if over 34m should be 100/1.

 I have no feel for this btw. 

No feel here either. Though I suspect 25m+ is a stretch on a Friday night

I will watch it.

Straw poll, who else will watch it?

Guess I am bound to watch a bit.  Zero chance of watching the whole thing. 
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« Reply #10929 on: July 22, 2012, 11:37:03 AM »

Reading the Betfair forum there are a selection of people posting to say they are there and it isn't too windy and it's a lovely day. Looking at the scores from the early starters that would seem to be true.

 It could obviously pick up later but for someone who is currently -1 or worse to win they will need to shoot a 64 and for Adam Scott to implode and for the three in behind to not score too good.

 Even if Scott shoots a 74 it is hard for the winning score to be worse than -8 or -7 which means that the -1 guys have a lot to do and it may be reasonable to say that you can't win it if you aren't at least -3.

 That said I have a new outright bet, I will post it when I'm on (sorry).

Well that should take a max of 5 minutes to get on

Its a big market out there with plenty of layers

You presume its betfair....

It probably isn't.
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« Reply #10930 on: July 22, 2012, 11:49:31 AM »

What about laying Vettell at 3.5.

Even if hes not starting from the back he's got to get past Alonso with extremely fast Mclarens behind.

Think its good value?

His odds are shortening.
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« Reply #10931 on: July 22, 2012, 11:50:57 AM »

Yeah market looks like they are going to be unpenalised to me.
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« Reply #10932 on: July 22, 2012, 11:52:23 AM »

Cricket.
England v West Indies
Hashim Amla series runs.
Bodog have > 205.5 @ 5/6

Bet365 have set the line at 232.
SpreadEx are offering 215-230.
SpIn are offering 225-240.

In the two warm-up matches Amla scored 64 and 77 (ret) although not against the strongest of attacks.

In his last series against England he scored 311 @ 44.43 in a 4 test series.
In his last series in England he scored 275 @ 45.83 in a 4 test series.

Comments?


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MereNovice   Bodog   Cricket   England v SA Test Series – Amla runs   > 205.5   5/6   £54

GB£ 54.00  Win Single:
OVER (205.5) @ 5/6 (Total Series Runs)
Eng v SA - Total Series Runs - Hashim Amla
Player Specials 
Total Stake:  GB£ 54.00
To win:     GB£ 45.00


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« Reply #10933 on: July 22, 2012, 11:53:39 AM »

Cricket.
England v West Indies
Hashim Amla series runs.
Bodog have > 205.5 @ 5/6

Bet365 have set the line at 232.
SpreadEx are offering 215-230.
SpIn are offering 225-240.

In the two warm-up matches Amla scored 64 and 77 (ret) although not against the strongest of attacks.

In his last series against England he scored 311 @ 44.43 in a 4 test series.
In his last series in England he scored 275 @ 45.83 in a 4 test series.

Comments?


On.

Following positive comments from TightEnd, I've plunged.

MereNovice   Bodog   Cricket   England v SA Test Series – Amla runs   > 205.5   5/6   £54

GB£ 54.00  Win Single:
OVER (205.5) @ 5/6 (Total Series Runs)
Eng v SA - Total Series Runs - Hashim Amla
Player Specials 
Total Stake:  GB£ 54.00
To win:     GB£ 45.00


Winner.


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« Reply #10934 on: July 22, 2012, 11:58:43 AM »

Not being a mechanical engineer, I had no idea what this change had been to the engine. Having done a bit of research...

A few years back, the FIA banned traction control, which is used to limit the amount of torque sent to the wheels (effectively to stop them spinning, when grip is needed). Most sports cars you can buy have different settings (sport mode, race mode, etc) and these are types of what the men in white coats call "maps".

All F1 cars have maps but they can't be traction control devices. The red bull one for this race has exactly that, because the torque in corners is reduced (which will stop the wheels from spinning).

No team has objected; it's the FIA that has referred red bull to the stewards, which underlines how serious this is.

If found guilty, red bull will have to take that setting off its car (disengage it, whatever). It will have to do that from the pits, because you can't make any changes to the car from Q3.

So, there won't be a grid penalty, if I've understood correctly. It's nothing, starting from the pits or expulsion.
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