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									 « Reply #118665 on: June 16, 2016, 09:24:03 AM »  | 
								
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							Jankovic drifting in the outright and that 18/1 is going fast.  Only Fred and 365 have it. Gogogo  
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									 « Reply #118666 on: June 16, 2016, 09:33:43 AM »  | 
								
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							Jankovic drifting in the outright and that 18/1 is going fast.  Only Fred and 365 have it. Gogogo TfT can have £20 for Cirstea to win the tournament at 18/1 if you'd like it.  
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									 « Reply #118667 on: June 16, 2016, 09:44:20 AM »  | 
								
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							Jankovic drifting in the outright and that 18/1 is going fast.  Only Fred and 365 have it. Gogogo TfT can have £20 for Cirstea to win the tournament at 18/1 if you'd like it. Don't think I have a say, but will 2nd it/first it.  Will happily also take it if Tighty says no.   Assume Jankovic has an issue of some kind.  
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							i took what betfred would allow
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									 « Reply #118669 on: June 16, 2016, 09:58:09 AM »  | 
								
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							Jankovic drifting in the outright and that 18/1 is going fast.  Only Fred and 365 have it. Gogogo TfT can have £20 for Cirstea to win the tournament at 18/1 if you'd like it. Don't think I have a say, but will 2nd it/first it.  Will happily also take it if Tighty says no.   Assume Jankovic has an issue of some kind. I watched some of her previous match and there were no obvious issues apart from her playing like a plank.  
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							Not for Fred
  But am I right assuming the TikayBet five places in the 4.20 at Ascot is a max bet on the five shortest horses bar the favourite for anyone that can?
 
  
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							Cristea looked good this week I thought - if I were to make an educated guess it would be that the 18-1 is wrong, and also Jankovic is almost certainly too short in the outrights.  It's very strange though I agree.  If she's dog to win today, then what does her outright price imply about her match odds in the semi and final?  Baffling. 
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							Not for Fred
  But am I right assuming the TikayBet five places in the 4.20 at Ascot is a max bet on the five shortest horses bar the favourite for anyone that can?
 
 
  Only if you want to get your account restricted, I'd suggest. <edit> It's only 1/5 odds too so not really a great spot.  
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							Not for Fred
  But am I right assuming the TikayBet five places in the 4.20 at Ascot is a max bet on the five shortest horses bar the favourite for anyone that can?
 
 
  Only if you want to get your account restricted, I'd suggest. <edit> It's only 1/5 odds too so not really a great spot. Odds on favourite plus a bunch of absolute rags.  Not just a great spot, it is a fantastic spot.  
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							I think Dungbeetle has it spot on, one is too short and the other a huge price in comparison.  Either player will be a strong fav in the semi-final which makes Fred odds and the e/w terms offered ridiculous, 9/1 cirstea to make the final is really big for those who can get on. 
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							I am not sure why, but fred and 365 are both 4/1 on Architecture in the 3.40 (beats betfair).  Her and Minding were miles clear in the Oaks.  There is the possibility of a hard race taking its toll, but at 4/1 can live with that.  Can't believe the price, expected much lower.
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