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« Reply #63330 on: December 30, 2013, 02:08:22 PM »

did very well to get them up but agree his reputation seems to have grown this season without doing anything particularly special.

You cant really criticize the amount spent though as he stated when they were doing well they were 85% Moodys work
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« Reply #63331 on: December 30, 2013, 02:26:55 PM »

Hurricane Fly, RPRs this year 154 & 165. Same two races last year 169 & 170.

For me Hurricane Fly can only get bigger or worse case scenario stay a similar price between now and the festival imo.

Sorry mate but I strongly disagree with your assumption.

Mullins gave a very revealing interview live on ATR this morning and reckons he has still got a lot to work on and that he is training him differently this campaign. The horse came back heavier than he'd ever been after gorging himself in the field all summer and the trainer says that he's hoping to get to the CH in his best form yet.

I built up a decent portfolio for the CH (as Adz will attest to) @ 6/1+ and have not even considered laying any off @ ~7/2. I reckon he'll go off more like a 2/1 shot in March, and win easily again.
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« Reply #63332 on: December 30, 2013, 02:28:43 PM »

Hurricane Fly, RPRs this year 154 & 165. Same two races last year 169 & 170.

For me Hurricane Fly can only get bigger or worse case scenario stay a similar price between now and the festival imo.

Sorry mate but I strongly disagree with your assumption.

Mullins gave a very revealing interview live on ATR this morning and reckons he has still got a lot to work on and that he is training him differently this campaign. The horse came back heavier than he'd ever been after gorging himself in the field all summer and the trainer says that he's hoping to get to the CH in his best form yet.

I built up a decent portfolio for the CH (as Adz will attest to) @ 6/1+ and have not even considered laying any off @ ~7/2. I reckon he'll go off more like a 2/1 shot in March, and win easily again.

That would explain the quite significant worse "figures" to a degree then

I have no view on the race but cant for the life of me see how he can start sub 3-1? unless some come out of course
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« Reply #63333 on: December 30, 2013, 02:35:11 PM »

Hurricane Fly, RPRs this year 154 & 165. Same two races last year 169 & 170.

For me Hurricane Fly can only get bigger or worse case scenario stay a similar price between now and the festival imo.

Sorry mate but I strongly disagree with your assumption.

Mullins gave a very revealing interview live on ATR this morning and reckons he has still got a lot to work on and that he is training him differently this campaign. The horse came back heavier than he'd ever been after gorging himself in the field all summer and the trainer says that he's hoping to get to the CH in his best form yet.

I built up a decent portfolio for the CH (as Adz will attest to) @ 6/1+ and have not even considered laying any off @ ~7/2. I reckon he'll go off more like a 2/1 shot in March, and win easily again.

That would explain the quite significant worse "figures" to a degree then

I have no view on the race but cant for the life of me see how he can start sub 3-1? unless some come out of course

Were you not impresed by the style of his win yesterday John?

He never even had to get out of third gear.
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« Reply #63334 on: December 30, 2013, 02:48:53 PM »

Hurricane Fly, RPRs this year 154 & 165. Same two races last year 169 & 170.

For me Hurricane Fly can only get bigger or worse case scenario stay a similar price between now and the festival imo.

Sorry mate but I strongly disagree with your assumption.

Mullins gave a very revealing interview live on ATR this morning and reckons he has still got a lot to work on and that he is training him differently this campaign. The horse came back heavier than he'd ever been after gorging himself in the field all summer and the trainer says that he's hoping to get to the CH in his best form yet.

I built up a decent portfolio for the CH (as Adz will attest to) @ 6/1+ and have not even considered laying any off @ ~7/2. I reckon he'll go off more like a 2/1 shot in March, and win easily again.


I can attest to the fact Ralph has wittered on about this for a while. As to how much money he has on it, I don't know.

I suspect, more than five pounds.

FWIW, they always seem to want to "get him" at Chelts, so I would be v surprised at sub 2-1 tbh.
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« Reply #63335 on: December 30, 2013, 02:49:41 PM »

I try not to get too involved in horse racing as I find there are far too many variables to try and overcome but I still like to search through the cards and see if there is anything I can pick up on spot a bit of value now and again.  

One horse that jumps out to me today is Paradise Sea 15:45 Lingfield.  £185,000 was paid for this as a yearling in 3 runs thus far it has achieved very little and been beaten a combined distance of 60 lengths.  In each race it has gone off no bigger than 8/1 and has had messrs Hannagan, Lee and Kirby aboard.  To my untrained eye this tells me someone clearly believes the horse has a bit of potential.  It is into handicap company for the first time today and has a tongue strap applied. She is trying 10 furlongs for the first time today and is now in training with the astute Jo Hughes and has a very capable jockey onboard with the young SW Kelly.  Although racing 1lb out the handicap I think this ticks many of the boxes for a speculator.  If we can get on e/w say a £10 e/w with one of the BOG companies it may be worth a small punt to nothing.  

Best price I can see at the moment with the books is 12/1 with Skybet but if we bet with a BOG comapny we should do ok if there is some oncourse money for it.  
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« Reply #63336 on: December 30, 2013, 02:56:09 PM »

With apologies to everyone I am back. Some updates follow
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« Reply #63337 on: December 30, 2013, 02:57:00 PM »

yes he was impressive yesterday without doubt

i am more interested in the price just cant see it starting shorter than 3-1, quite often starts about what he is now and sometimes 5-1+

good luck with your bet

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""He's fine. I was happy enough he got so close. He jumped the last upsides," said Hughes.

"He didn't have the finest preparation in the world after he got hurt at Naas and was laid up for three weeks to a month.

"You could call it his first run - Naas was a waste of time - so it was a gutsy performance.

Hughes added: "He'll come on for that. He came on a lot from Leopardstown (Spring Juvenile Hurdle success in February) to Cheltenham last year. It's the Irish Champion next time and he'll be ready for it.""
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« Reply #63338 on: December 30, 2013, 03:00:39 PM »

With apologies to everyone I am back. Some updates follow

No apology necessary, but welcome back.

Looking forward to the NFL update......Smiley
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« Reply #63339 on: December 30, 2013, 03:07:15 PM »

With apologies to everyone I am back. Some updates follow

No apology necessary, but welcome back.

Looking forward to the NFL update......Smiley

Heroic effort to ensure Dallas allowed the Fred-backed Philadelphia Eagles to progress to the playoffs. Putting Kyle Orton in was an inspired manoeuvre.

Good to have you back, Tighty.
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« Reply #63340 on: December 30, 2013, 03:08:21 PM »

yes he was impressive yesterday without doubt

i am more interested in the price just cant see it starting shorter than 3-1, quite often starts about what he is now and sometimes 5-1+

good luck with your bet

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""He's fine. I was happy enough he got so close. He jumped the last upsides," said Hughes.

"He didn't have the finest preparation in the world after he got hurt at Naas and was laid up for three weeks to a month.

"You could call it his first run - Naas was a waste of time - so it was a gutsy performance.

Hughes added: "He'll come on for that. He came on a lot from Leopardstown (Spring Juvenile Hurdle success in February) to Cheltenham last year. It's the Irish Champion next time and he'll be ready for it.""

Thanks mate.

Not sure where you get those prices from. I don't think he's ever been 5/1.

2013 Won 13/8 fav
2012 3rd 4/6 fav
2011 Won 11/4 fav
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« Reply #63341 on: December 30, 2013, 03:09:07 PM »

Welcome back Tighty I hope all is well on the home front.
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« Reply #63342 on: December 30, 2013, 03:10:21 PM »

Would you guys take 4/1 HF in the CH? might get on now
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« Reply #63343 on: December 30, 2013, 03:10:31 PM »

yes he was impressive yesterday without doubt

i am more interested in the price just cant see it starting shorter than 3-1, quite often starts about what he is now and sometimes 5-1+

good luck with your bet

some more quotes from our conor connections

""He's fine. I was happy enough he got so close. He jumped the last upsides," said Hughes.

"He didn't have the finest preparation in the world after he got hurt at Naas and was laid up for three weeks to a month.

"You could call it his first run - Naas was a waste of time - so it was a gutsy performance.

Hughes added: "He'll come on for that. He came on a lot from Leopardstown (Spring Juvenile Hurdle success in February) to Cheltenham last year. It's the Irish Champion next time and he'll be ready for it.""

Thanks mate.

Not sure where you get those prices from. I don't think he's ever been 5/1.

2013 Won 13/8 fav
2012 3rd 4/6 fav
2011 Won 11/4 fav

my perception on what he will start this year i meant

much more depth this year i think
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« Reply #63344 on: December 30, 2013, 03:15:12 PM »

So far on the NFL Season bets the scores on the doors are

6 bets have completed, £575 was wagered and £986 has been returned


The play off line up has now been decided, and two bets are outstanding

- Cincinnati Bengals to win the AFC £50 at 16-1

- Philadelphia Eagles to win the Superbowl £20 at 50-1

We are therefore assured of profitability from this sub-set of 8 season bets


The play off line ups are as follows

AFC

Kansas City at Indianapolis

San Diego at Cincinnati

Byes: New England and Denver

The Bengals beat the Ravens last night to go undefeated in the regular season at home. They missed out on a bye because the Patriots beat the Bills.

Unfortunately for us, as I think San Diego is probably the worst opponent for the play-off wildcard candidates, the Cheifs rested 20 of 22 starters and San Diego beat them narrowly to pip Pittsburgh to the sixth seed

So the wild card round is this weekend and if Cincinnati win on Sunday (6pm on SS) they face a trip to New England.

Tough, but not impossible as the Bengals have a talented roster on both sides of the ball. As identified five months ago though, the big question will be how QB Andy Dalton performs on the road when it really matters.  

The Bengals are currently third favourites behind Denver and New England

http://www.oddschecker.com/american-football/nfl/afc/winner


NFC

Philadephia beat Dallas 24-22 to hit the post season

New Orleans at Philadephia

49ers at Packers

Byes: Carolina, Seattle

The Eagles have caught a break here, as the Saints are far less effective a team outside a dome, as their record shows. I think the Eagles will beat the Saints. The 49ers/Packers will be a superb game as Rodgers is fit again and the 49ers are right back in form with their offensive weapons fit again

Anyway, if Philly do win on late Saturday they go to Carolina and avoid the away team graveyard of Seattle. Again, by getting the number 3 seed they caught a break


Odds would have us believe that Denver will play Seattle in the Superbowl. I am resolute in thinking that this will NOT be the case

The play offs are all about who gets hot in January

I could make a good case for San Diego in the AFC, and Philly or the Packers in the NFC to make the Superbowl. All three very dangerous teams.

The prices of these three to win it? 50-1, 20-1, 22-1 in a twelve horse field and all are available at 1/3 each way

http://www.oddschecker.com/american-football/nfl/superbowl/winner

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