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« Reply #80685 on: June 18, 2014, 06:12:37 PM »

chomps will be along later for Hughes updates.

I have been keeping a manual record of the top jockey stats

Hughes 2 wins 2 2nds
Smullen 2 wins
Hanagan 1 win 1 2nd 1 3rd
Frankie 1 win 1 3rd
Buick 1 win 1 3rd
Moore 1 win
Doyle 1 win
Spencer 2 2nds 2 3rds
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« Reply #80686 on: June 18, 2014, 06:15:15 PM »

tighty did u see my epl ante post rec from earlier?

yes

on the list to be done

what sort of stake?

6k bank (starting plus profit)

1% £60

that sound ok? more/less?


I like the bet anyway at the price quite strongly.  Chompy style back to lay theory in play as well given the relatively easy first 10 games for stoke made me want to double the stakes.  £150 at 13/5 (no idea on bwin limits as i have never bet with them for years) would be fine if bwin will lay with a view to doing a 'hughes' on it to reduce the position at some point in running due to the favourable schedule early.

6/18/2014 6:53 PM    Single bet    

    open Which team will finish in the top 10 in 2014/15? (Which team will finish in the top 10?)
   Stoke City
 150.00    3.60



i find bwin good, never been knocked back in any market

anyway, placed

trading activity during season down to you to advise
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« Reply #80687 on: June 18, 2014, 06:15:20 PM »

EArly show from hills

Richard Hughes
5/4
Ryan Moore   
2/1
Joseph O'Brien   
10/1
Paul Hanagan   
10/1
William Buick   
10/1
Frankie Dettori   
12/1
James Doyle   
20/1
Adam Kirby   
33/1
Jamie Spencer   
33/1
Pat Smullen   
33/1

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/racing-specials/long-term/royal-ascot/top-jockey

Hills are obviously 'full' of Hughes and ducking him compared to the other firms who have gone back up with the market
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« Reply #80688 on: June 18, 2014, 06:17:05 PM »

EArly show from hills

Richard Hughes
5/4
Ryan Moore   
2/1
Joseph O'Brien   
10/1
Paul Hanagan   
10/1
William Buick   
10/1
Frankie Dettori   
12/1
James Doyle   
20/1
Adam Kirby   
33/1
Jamie Spencer   
33/1
Pat Smullen   
33/1

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« Reply #80689 on: June 18, 2014, 06:20:36 PM »

I don't see how the bookies would let you do a double on the same team's two games anyway.

Sounds a related bet.

Would be worried over getting freerolled tbh.
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« Reply #80690 on: June 18, 2014, 06:23:37 PM »

It can be negatively related sometimes in these situations where if you win the first game you might play a dead rubber in the final game and rest players and the price drifts as a result.  Overall it's not really related at all.
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« Reply #80691 on: June 18, 2014, 06:29:58 PM »

Portugal's doctor: "If Cristiano Ronaldo continues to play in this World Cup, the injury could end his career."
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« Reply #80692 on: June 18, 2014, 06:38:53 PM »

the fav in the next at ascot is win and place value at 365 if you can get the 4/6 ew.  trading at 8/13 and 1/10 win and place markets on bf.  We are getting 1/6 the place when its 1/10 on bf.  Recommend £100 ew on treve at 4/6 bet365 if you can get it

i haven't got that there, its funded for buttons nowadays due to the big restirctions, no point having sensible money on there

They laid me £150 ew at 4/6 on a 1% account so even the most restricted 365 accoutns will get £150 ew on at 4/6

i repeat, its not funded for it

to empty the account would leave it unfunded til tikay is back from the US.

Just to confirm the position here, which Tighty is aware of.

Between BetEveryDayOfTheYear & PP I had Account Balances in excess of £2,000, but we could barely get a bet on, so I withdrew most of it in mid-May. Just made no sense to leave the money there.

I cannot deposit further with either until I get back home. Assuming I return with any money.
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« Reply #80693 on: June 18, 2014, 06:42:33 PM »

the fav in the next at ascot is win and place value at 365 if you can get the 4/6 ew.  trading at 8/13 and 1/10 win and place markets on bf.  We are getting 1/6 the place when its 1/10 on bf.  Recommend £100 ew on treve at 4/6 bet365 if you can get it

i haven't got that there, its funded for buttons nowadays due to the big restirctions, no point having sensible money on there

They laid me £150 ew at 4/6 on a 1% account so even the most restricted 365 accoutns will get £150 ew on at 4/6

i repeat, its not funded for it

to empty the account would leave it unfunded til tikay is back from the US.

Just to confirm the position here, which Tighty is aware of.

Between BetEveryDayOfTheYear & PP I had Account Balances in excess of £2,000, but we could barely get a bet on, so I withdrew most of it in mid-May. Just made no sense to leave the money there.

I cannot deposit further with either until I get back home. Assuming I return with any money.

That's cool.  Makes total sense.  There are very few events where a 1% 365 account can get on a decent bet.  Royal Ascot and the WC are two of them.
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« Reply #80694 on: June 18, 2014, 06:48:33 PM »

I can get 3/1 England if Fred wants any of it, came through as a special offer on one of my accounts.  Also same company going 4/1 Uruguay. 

I can place the bet tomorrow when i get paid and can settle after event?
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« Reply #80695 on: June 18, 2014, 06:54:30 PM »

the fav in the next at ascot is win and place value at 365 if you can get the 4/6 ew.  trading at 8/13 and 1/10 win and place markets on bf.  We are getting 1/6 the place when its 1/10 on bf.  Recommend £100 ew on treve at 4/6 bet365 if you can get it

i haven't got that there, its funded for buttons nowadays due to the big restirctions, no point having sensible money on there

They laid me £150 ew at 4/6 on a 1% account so even the most restricted 365 accoutns will get £150 ew on at 4/6

i repeat, its not funded for it

to empty the account would leave it unfunded til tikay is back from the US.

Just to confirm the position here, which Tighty is aware of.

Between BetEveryDayOfTheYear & PP I had Account Balances in excess of £2,000, but we could barely get a bet on, so I withdrew most of it in mid-May. Just made no sense to leave the money there.

I cannot deposit further with either until I get back home. Assuming I return with any money.

That's cool.  Makes total sense.  There are very few events where a 1% 365 account can get on a decent bet.  Royal Ascot and the WC are two of them.

Look further up, Tighty was limited to £2.36 e/w or similar by 365.  I was hopeful for Ascot with Paddies, but same story for me there.  They wouldn't lay me a bet with a liability of £50 in the Hunt Cup (I gave up when I got that far down!).  I wouldn't mind, but last time I looked the account was over £500 down.  Think it is a racing only restriction though, think I'd be fine in the World Cup. 
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« Reply #80696 on: June 18, 2014, 07:30:34 PM »

Ryan Thursday

Mind Of Madness 12-1
Cannock Chase 5-2
Terrific 16-1
Estimate 10-1
Bow Creek 25-1
Wrangler 8-1

66%

Hughes Thursday

No ride
Barley Mow 5-1
Lustrous 12-1
Royal Diamond 16-1
Magnus Maximus 16-1
Windshear 8-1

47%

Listen Jnr Thursday

The Great War Evs
No ride
Bracelet 10-1
Leading Light Evs
Table Rock 16-1
Carlo Bugatti 20-1

120%

Hanagan Thursday

Mukhmal 6-1
Mutakayef 11-2
No ride
No ride
Zarwaan 10-1
Zee Zeely 12-1

46%

Buick Thursday

No ride
Cloudscape 7-1
Bright Approach 7-1
Saddler's Rock 33-1
Hunters Creek 20-1
Personal Opinion 8-1

44%
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« Reply #80697 on: June 18, 2014, 07:31:32 PM »

In the tennis Garcia Lopez got beaten but Querrey is through to the last 8.
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« Reply #80698 on: June 18, 2014, 07:34:30 PM »

Dettori has a couple of half channers but Treve not winning was a killer for him imo.
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« Reply #80699 on: June 18, 2014, 07:37:04 PM »

It can be negatively related sometimes in these situations where if you win the first game you might play a dead rubber in the final game and rest players and the price drifts as a result.  Overall it's not really related at all.


Don't hugely disagee with you but def sounds a spot where you can be freerolled by those lovely bookies.

Just would clarify it with them first if betting such.
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