Tips for Tikay

[MereNovice]

Greece +1.5 1.98>Schurle @ 14/1 >Klose @ 9/2 fgs>Under 2.5 @ 1.95 for me.

Sorry. forgot the Greece+1.5 tip.

Effectively we only miss out on Germany 2-0 and gain several other results?

Scurrle is best price 9/1 fgs now.

[ACE2M]

reus first scorer my only play here

couldn't argue against it.

I've backed reus and schurrle.

[redarmi]

Yes although Germany 2-0 is a big runner ofc

[mondatoo]

Think I might've asked this question itt before but don't remember it being answered, why do bet365 regularly do this promo ? how is it profitable ?

Will have to get involved, ldo, but no idea what to go with.

Also is backing Eng/Ita pre match and the draw post ko a terrible idea ?

[horseplayer]

Think I might've asked this question itt before but don't remember it being answered, why do bet365 regularly do this promo ? how is it profitable ?

Will have to get involved, ldo, but no idea what to go with.

Also is backing Eng/Ita pre match and the draw post ko a terrible idea ?

it isnt on its own but i guess it brings people to the site who whilst they are there punt on first scorer punt on something else , also encourages brand loyalty

[MereNovice]

Yes although Germany 2-0 is a big runner ofc

'scuse my ignorance but where can I find the Greece+1.5 market.

All the handicaps that I can see are whole numbers of goals with the draw as an option.

[redarmi]

Under Asian handicap but it has just been smashed I think.

[tikay]

Think I might've asked this question itt before but don't remember it being answered, why do bet365 regularly do this promo ? how is it profitable ?Will have to get involved, ldo, but no idea what to go with.

Also is backing Eng/Ita pre match and the draw post ko a terrible idea ?

It's all about "Acquisition" Ray.

Acquisition is key to any succesful Online Gaming Site, be it Betting, Poker, or whatever.

Look at it this way. These numbers are hypothetical, but not far from the truth.....

If we have an AVERAGE CPA (CPA - "Cost per Acquisition", (per new Client) ), of, say, £50, & our AVERAGE MPU (Margin Per Unique) is £100 per year, we make an average of £50 per unique. Multilply that by x,000 players, then factor in an average of, say, x years revenue or margin from each new Client, & you then have an assumed revenue per acquisition, or new Client.  As long as that assumed revenue is greater than the CPA, we are gonna make money on the thing.

So, if Bet365 "give us" £50, & sign up x,000 players off the back of that deal, we can assume they expect to earn a return of £x per acquisition.

Think about how much the AVERAGE betting Client loses per annum, & then compare that to, say an average CPA of  £50.

All figures are hypothetical.

[MereNovice]

Under Asian handicap but it has just been smashed I think.

Best 1.9 now.
I'm so slow, sorry.

Presumably 1.9 is nowhere near as appealing?

[tikay]

Under Asian handicap but it has just been smashed I think.

Best 1.9 now.
I'm so slow, sorry.

Presumably 1.9 is nowhere near as appealing?

Can't get the staff these days......

[redarmi]

Think I might've asked this question itt before but don't remember it being answered, why do bet365 regularly do this promo ? how is it profitable ?Will have to get involved, ldo, but no idea what to go with.

Also is backing Eng/Ita pre match and the draw post ko a terrible idea ?

It's all about "Acquisition" Ray.

Acquisition is key to any succesful Online Gaming Site, be it Betting, Poker, or whatever.

Look at it this way. These numbers are hypothetical, but not far from the truth.....

If we have an AVERAGE CPA (CPA - "Cost per Acquisition", (per new Client) ), of, say, £50, & our AVERAGE MPU (Margin Per Unique) is £100 per year, we make an average of £50 per unique. Multilply that by x,000 players, then factor in an average of, say, x years revenue or margin from each new Client, & you then have an assumed revenue per acquisition, or new Client.  As long as that assumed revenue is greater than the CPA, we are gonna make money on the thing.

So, if Bet365 "give us" £50, & sign up x,000 players off the back of that deal, we can assume they expect to earn a return of £x per acquisition.

Think about how much the AVERAGE betting Client loses per annum, & then compare that to, say an average CPA of  £50.

All figures are hypothetical.

Agree that is why they do it but it is only about acquisition if it is only available for new punters and they offer it to their existing punters too so it is about loyalty too.  As much as I dislike their approach to my own bets (I can't have any) I do admire them massively.  They have a truly amazing business and they have built it in 10% of the time of most of their rivals.  They do pretty much everything well.

[MereNovice]

Under Asian handicap but it has just been smashed I think.

Best 1.9 now.
I'm so slow, sorry.

Presumably 1.9 is nowhere near as appealing?

Can't get the staff these days......

I was trying to retain the thread's authentic "ditherage" feel.

[redarmi]

1.90 is okay so long as not with betfair but have less on.  Maybe £60 or something.  I am confident it will go off shorter.

[tikay]

Think I might've asked this question itt before but don't remember it being answered, why do bet365 regularly do this promo ? how is it profitable ?Will have to get involved, ldo, but no idea what to go with.

Also is backing Eng/Ita pre match and the draw post ko a terrible idea ?

It's all about "Acquisition" Ray.

Acquisition is key to any succesful Online Gaming Site, be it Betting, Poker, or whatever.

Look at it this way. These numbers are hypothetical, but not far from the truth.....

If we have an AVERAGE CPA (CPA - "Cost per Acquisition", (per new Client) ), of, say, £50, & our AVERAGE MPU (Margin Per Unique) is £100 per year, we make an average of £50 per unique. Multilply that by x,000 players, then factor in an average of, say, x years revenue or margin from each new Client, & you then have an assumed revenue per acquisition, or new Client.  As long as that assumed revenue is greater than the CPA, we are gonna make money on the thing.

So, if Bet365 "give us" £50, & sign up x,000 players off the back of that deal, we can assume they expect to earn a return of £x per acquisition.

Think about how much the AVERAGE betting Client loses per annum, & then compare that to, say an average CPA of  £50.

All figures are hypothetical.

Agree that is why they do it but it is only about acquisition if it is only available for new punters and they offer it to their existing punters too so it is about loyalty too.  As much as I dislike their approach to my own bets (I can't have any) I do admire them massively. They have a truly amazing business and they have built it in 10% of the time of most of their rivals.  They do pretty much everything well.

Yup, agree 100%. And no, even I cannot get a bet on with them!

I have total admiration for how well they have done.

I answered Ray just as to acquisition, but loyalty/churn etc are all in the mix.

And they WILL take bets from high rollers, "Priority Clients", just as all Online Bookies will. But only from the ones who they know to be long-term losers.

I'm not going to derail the thread with an idealogical debate, but if I owned ABC Bookies, I would not accept bets from long-term winning punters, either. Why would I?!

[tikay]

Under Asian handicap but it has just been smashed I think.

Best 1.9 now.
I'm so slow, sorry.

Presumably 1.9 is nowhere near as appealing?

Can't get the staff these days......

I was trying to retain the thread's authentic "ditherage" feel.

You need to get a LOT worse then. Had any of my "misclicks" yet?

For regular thread readers, Mere, & only Mere, has access to my "Off Thread Private Spreadsheet". And he can confirm, it is littered with "miscklicked" bets that I have removed from the official Thread accounts because I misclicked. Think I'm profitable on my misclicks, actually.....