Tips for Tikay

[Doobs]

BMW Championship

Nick Watney with bwin is 13.5 (25/2) top ten finish and 6.3 top twenty finish, bwin seem to be the only ones with the top 20 market, but what is interesting is that nearly all the others have him priced top ten as  6 to 8/1.

On the face of it the 6 to 8/1 looks too short based on his results, so bwin might have the price right,  however just before the Barclays he got a new coach, in that tournament he finish 9th with some consistent scoring, in the next he finished 35th with 1 bad round of 72  but was within 3 shots of top 20.

By his own admission it has been his putting letting him down and is obviously working on this. He also has a history of finishing the season strong. (He won the Barclays last year and the another afterwards but had a weak start to the season)

I would recommend £10 top 10 bwin @ 13.5  £20 top 20 bwin @ 6.3 and £2.50 e/w @ 110/1 1st 5 with b365.

Others on here will have more experience than me on Golf and I may be well off the mark with whether the value is with bwin or the others have it wrong. Either way I've put it out there and it's up to the elders to decide, either way I'm on myself so good luck.

You can beat the prices on the e/w with Betfair 159/1 the win, 22/1 the place (has been laid at 25/1).  The top 10 might be some slight value looking at the top 5 prices.  He looks more likely to be 10th than 1st, but can't help much further.  The other bookies definitely look short.

[Omm]

BMW Championship

Nick Watney with bwin is 13.5 (25/2) top ten finish and 6.3 top twenty finish, bwin seem to be the only ones with the top 20 market, but what is interesting is that nearly all the others have him priced top ten as  6 to 8/1.

On the face of it the 6 to 8/1 looks too short based on his results, so bwin might have the price right,  however just before the Barclays he got a new coach, in that tournament he finish 9th with some consistent scoring, in the next he finished 35th with 1 bad round of 72  but was within 3 shots of top 20.

By his own admission it has been his putting letting him down and is obviously working on this. He also has a history of finishing the season strong. (He won the Barclays last year and the another afterwards but had a weak start to the season)

I would recommend £10 top 10 bwin @ 13.5  £20 top 20 bwin @ 6.3 and £2.50 e/w @ 110/1 1st 5 with b365.

Others on here will have more experience than me on Golf and I may be well off the mark with whether the value is with bwin or the others have it wrong. Either way I've put it out there and it's up to the elders to decide, either way I'm on myself so good luck.

You can beat the prices on the e/w with Betfair 159/1 the win, 22/1 the place (has been laid at 25/1).  The top 10 might be some slight value looking at the top 5 prices.  He looks more likely to be 10th than 1st, but can't help much further.  The other bookies definitely look short.

Yeah good point about the win on betfair, I've edited the place top 5 on bwin 46.5 so beats betfair, agreed more likely to come 10 - 20 than 1 - 10 but possible worth a couple of quid considering the price for top 5 on bwin?

[BigAdz]

Just had a look at Watney, as I like the angle.

He has a solid record at the BMW, seems to always make the cut, and finish top 30ish so would rather play in the Top 20 market at the price on offer.


Question for Doobs on Jordan S

He is currently 16s for top American 1/4 top 4. How does this compare to overall market when you strip out the non Americans please? Just trying to look for angles. Ta

[Doobs]

BMW Championship

Nick Watney with bwin is 13.5 (25/2) top ten finish and 6.3 top twenty finish, bwin seem to be the only ones with the top 20 market, but what is interesting is that nearly all the others have him priced top ten as  6 to 8/1.

On the face of it the 6 to 8/1 looks too short based on his results, so bwin might have the price right,  however just before the Barclays he got a new coach, in that tournament he finish 9th with some consistent scoring, in the next he finished 35th with 1 bad round of 72  but was within 3 shots of top 20.

By his own admission it has been his putting letting him down and is obviously working on this. He also has a history of finishing the season strong. (He won the Barclays last year and the another afterwards but had a weak start to the season)

I would recommend £10 top 10 bwin @ 13.5  £20 top 20 bwin @ 6.3 and £2.50 e/w @ 110/1 1st 5 with b365.

Others on here will have more experience than me on Golf and I may be well off the mark with whether the value is with bwin or the others have it wrong. Either way I've put it out there and it's up to the elders to decide, either way I'm on myself so good luck.

You can beat the prices on the e/w with Betfair 159/1 the win, 22/1 the place (has been laid at 25/1).  The top 10 might be some slight value looking at the top 5 prices.  He looks more likely to be 10th than 1st, but can't help much further.  The other bookies definitely look short.

Yeah good point about the win on betfair, I've edited the place top 5 on bwin 46.5 so beats betfair, agreed more likely to come 10 - 20 than 1 - 10 but possible worth a couple of quid considering the price for top 5 on bwin?

I like the top 10 and top 20 prices too, they are a bit on the high side.  That top 5 price looks like it must be a palp?  It crushes Betfair and anyone else.

[tikay]

Phils post yesterday about Arian Foster piqued my interest so I looked into it further and it does seem as though he will rotate carries with Ben Tate.  Tates stats aren't that great because he is traditionally used as a battering ram to run down the clock when they are ahead.  He had 69 rushing attempts last year but 39 were in the second half, 42 were whilst his team was ahead and only 10 were in the oppositions red zone and he managed to get 2 TDs from those 10 carries.  He should get a chance tonight and it seems to me he is a big price at 15/2 with Ladbrokes to be the Texans first TD scorer and also at 9/5 to score anytime.  If he gets double digit carries, which he surely will, they both have to be value.

Thanks reds.

Been working the last few hours, & seem to have missed this price badly - he is now 5/1 First TD, & 1/2 Anytime with Ladbrokes.

That is way below your suggestion, so unless you say otherwise, I'd best leave it I think.

I'll have a look elsewhere, but many of these Player Props are only on Ladbrokes.

[horseplayer]

Really enjoyed that Preston Oldham game

Spirited stuff from Oldham got some good players but can see them blowing hot and cold. Presumably they dont go up no way they hang on to Tarwoski again for another season massive prospect

[TightEnd]

Really enjoyed that Preston Oldham game

Spirited stuff from Oldham got some good players but can see them blowing hot and cold. Presumably they dont go up no way they hang on to Tarwoski again for another season massive prospect

very young team, going to be inconsistent

plenty of talent, a team to be on the right side of - maybe next season depending who they keep

[JoeBeevers]

Phils post yesterday about Arian Foster piqued my interest so I looked into it further and it does seem as though he will rotate carries with Ben Tate.  Tates stats aren't that great because he is traditionally used as a battering ram to run down the clock when they are ahead.  He had 69 rushing attempts last year but 39 were in the second half, 42 were whilst his team was ahead and only 10 were in the oppositions red zone and he managed to get 2 TDs from those 10 carries.  He should get a chance tonight and it seems to me he is a big price at 15/2 with Ladbrokes to be the Texans first TD scorer and also at 9/5 to score anytime.  If he gets double digit carries, which he surely will, they both have to be value.

Thanks reds.

Been working the last few hours, & seem to have missed this price badly - he is now 5/1 First TD, & 1/2 Anytime with Ladbrokes.

That is way below your suggestion, so unless you say otherwise, I'd best leave it I think.

I'll have a look elsewhere, but many of these Player Props are only on Ladbrokes.

You are looking at Foster not Tate. Lads now 7/5 anytime, best is 7/4 B365.

[tikay]

BMW Championship

Nick Watney with bwin is 13.5 (25/2) top ten finish and 6.3 top twenty finish, bwin seem to be the only ones with the top 20 market, but what is interesting is that nearly all the others have him priced top ten as  6 to 8/1.

On the face of it the 6 to 8/1 looks too short based on his results, so bwin might have the price right,  however just before the Barclays he got a new coach, in that tournament he finish 9th with some consistent scoring, in the next he finished 35th with 1 bad round of 72  but was within 3 shots of top 20.

By his own admission it has been his putting letting him down and is obviously working on this. He also has a history of finishing the season strong. (He won the Barclays last year and the another afterwards but had a weak start to the season)

I would recommend £10 top 10 bwin @ 13.5  £20 top 20 bwin @ 6.3 and £2.50 e/w @ 110/1 1st 5 with b365.

Others on here will have more experience than me on Golf and I may be well off the mark with whether the value is with bwin or the others have it wrong. Either way I've put it out there and it's up to the elders to decide, either way I'm on myself so good luck.

You can beat the prices on the e/w with Betfair 159/1 the win, 22/1 the place (has been laid at 25/1).  The top 10 might be some slight value looking at the top 5 prices.  He looks more likely to be 10th than 1st, but can't help much further.  The other bookies definitely look short.

Yeah good point about the win on betfair, I've edited the place top 5 on bwin 46.5 so beats betfair, agreed more likely to come 10 - 20 than 1 - 10 but possible worth a couple of quid considering the price for top 5 on bwin?

Can you clarify what the actual suggestion is, please, I'm a little confused.

BWin go.....

Top 20 @ 7.3

Top 10 @ 13.5

Top 5 @ 46.5

Betfair WIN Price is 160.

All of those? Staking suggestions?

Thanks.

[tikay]

Phils post yesterday about Arian Foster piqued my interest so I looked into it further and it does seem as though he will rotate carries with Ben Tate.  Tates stats aren't that great because he is traditionally used as a battering ram to run down the clock when they are ahead.  He had 69 rushing attempts last year but 39 were in the second half, 42 were whilst his team was ahead and only 10 were in the oppositions red zone and he managed to get 2 TDs from those 10 carries.  He should get a chance tonight and it seems to me he is a big price at 15/2 with Ladbrokes to be the Texans first TD scorer and also at 9/5 to score anytime.  If he gets double digit carries, which he surely will, they both have to be value.

Thanks reds.

Been working the last few hours, & seem to have missed this price badly - he is now 5/1 First TD, & 1/2 Anytime with Ladbrokes.

That is way below your suggestion, so unless you say otherwise, I'd best leave it I think.

I'll have a look elsewhere, but many of these Player Props are only on Ladbrokes.

You are looking at Foster not Tate. Lads now 7/5 anytime, best is 7/4 B365.

Aarrgghh!

Thanks Joe.

Off to have another look.

[Omm]

BMW Championship

Nick Watney with bwin is 13.5 (25/2) top ten finish and 6.3 top twenty finish, bwin seem to be the only ones with the top 20 market, but what is interesting is that nearly all the others have him priced top ten as  6 to 8/1.

On the face of it the 6 to 8/1 looks too short based on his results, so bwin might have the price right,  however just before the Barclays he got a new coach, in that tournament he finish 9th with some consistent scoring, in the next he finished 35th with 1 bad round of 72  but was within 3 shots of top 20.

By his own admission it has been his putting letting him down and is obviously working on this. He also has a history of finishing the season strong. (He won the Barclays last year and the another afterwards but had a weak start to the season)

I would recommend £10 top 10 bwin @ 13.5  £20 top 20 bwin @ 6.3 and £2.50 e/w @ 110/1 1st 5 with b365.

Others on here will have more experience than me on Golf and I may be well off the mark with whether the value is with bwin or the others have it wrong. Either way I've put it out there and it's up to the elders to decide, either way I'm on myself so good luck.

You can beat the prices on the e/w with Betfair 159/1 the win, 22/1 the place (has been laid at 25/1).  The top 10 might be some slight value looking at the top 5 prices.  He looks more likely to be 10th than 1st, but can't help much further.  The other bookies definitely look short.

Yeah good point about the win on betfair, I've edited the place top 5 on bwin 46.5 so beats betfair, agreed more likely to come 10 - 20 than 1 - 10 but possible worth a couple of quid considering the price for top 5 on bwin?

Can you clarify what the actual suggestion is, please, I'm a little confused.

BWin go.....

Top 20 @ 7.3

Top 10 @ 13.5

Top 5 @ 46.5

Betfair WIN Price is 160.

All of those? Staking suggestions?

Thanks.

For me Tikay he is more likely to be Top 20 so £20 top 20 with bwin.

[tikay]

Phils post yesterday about Arian Foster piqued my interest so I looked into it further and it does seem as though he will rotate carries with Ben Tate.  Tates stats aren't that great because he is traditionally used as a battering ram to run down the clock when they are ahead.  He had 69 rushing attempts last year but 39 were in the second half, 42 were whilst his team was ahead and only 10 were in the oppositions red zone and he managed to get 2 TDs from those 10 carries.  He should get a chance tonight and it seems to me he is a big price at 15/2 with Ladbrokes to be the Texans first TD scorer and also at 9/5 to score anytime.  If he gets double digit carries, which he surely will, they both have to be value.

Ladbrokes go 6/1 (Tate!) to be First Texans TD Scorer.

Bet365 go 7/4 Tate, anytime. (Thanks Joe).

Go with those prices?

[JoeBeevers]

Phils post yesterday about Arian Foster piqued my interest so I looked into it further and it does seem as though he will rotate carries with Ben Tate.  Tates stats aren't that great because he is traditionally used as a battering ram to run down the clock when they are ahead.  He had 69 rushing attempts last year but 39 were in the second half, 42 were whilst his team was ahead and only 10 were in the oppositions red zone and he managed to get 2 TDs from those 10 carries.  He should get a chance tonight and it seems to me he is a big price at 15/2 with Ladbrokes to be the Texans first TD scorer and also at 9/5 to score anytime.  If he gets double digit carries, which he surely will, they both have to be value.

Thanks reds.

Been working the last few hours, & seem to have missed this price badly - he is now 5/1 First TD, & 1/2 Anytime with Ladbrokes.

That is way below your suggestion, so unless you say otherwise, I'd best leave it I think.

I'll have a look elsewhere, but many of these Player Props are only on Ladbrokes.

You are looking at Foster not Tate. Lads now 7/5 anytime, best is 7/4 B365.

Aarrgghh!

Thanks Joe.

Off to have another look.

Related you should also take the 5/6 under 84.5 rushing yards Arian Foster. Most other firms have adjusted quotes but not PP, £60 suggested.

http://www.oddschecker.com/american-football/nfl/houston-texans-at-san-diego-chargers/total-rushing-yds-arian-foster

[tikay]

BMW Championship

Nick Watney with bwin is 13.5 (25/2) top ten finish and 6.3 top twenty finish, bwin seem to be the only ones with the top 20 market, but what is interesting is that nearly all the others have him priced top ten as  6 to 8/1.

On the face of it the 6 to 8/1 looks too short based on his results, so bwin might have the price right,  however just before the Barclays he got a new coach, in that tournament he finish 9th with some consistent scoring, in the next he finished 35th with 1 bad round of 72  but was within 3 shots of top 20.

By his own admission it has been his putting letting him down and is obviously working on this. He also has a history of finishing the season strong. (He won the Barclays last year and the another afterwards but had a weak start to the season)

I would recommend £10 top 10 bwin @ 13.5  £20 top 20 bwin @ 6.3 and £2.50 e/w @ 110/1 1st 5 with b365.

Others on here will have more experience than me on Golf and I may be well off the mark with whether the value is with bwin or the others have it wrong. Either way I've put it out there and it's up to the elders to decide, either way I'm on myself so good luck.

You can beat the prices on the e/w with Betfair 159/1 the win, 22/1 the place (has been laid at 25/1).  The top 10 might be some slight value looking at the top 5 prices.  He looks more likely to be 10th than 1st, but can't help much further.  The other bookies definitely look short.

Yeah good point about the win on betfair, I've edited the place top 5 on bwin 46.5 so beats betfair, agreed more likely to come 10 - 20 than 1 - 10 but possible worth a couple of quid considering the price for top 5 on bwin?

Can you clarify what the actual suggestion is, please, I'm a little confused.

BWin go.....

Top 20 @ 7.3

Top 10 @ 13.5

Top 5 @ 46.5

Betfair WIN Price is 160.

All of those? Staking suggestions?

Thanks.

For me Tikay he is more likely to be Top 20 so £20 top 20 with bwin.

Just Top 20, nothing else?

Happy to go ahead on that basis, just confirm please.

[JoeBeevers]

Phils post yesterday about Arian Foster piqued my interest so I looked into it further and it does seem as though he will rotate carries with Ben Tate.  Tates stats aren't that great because he is traditionally used as a battering ram to run down the clock when they are ahead.  He had 69 rushing attempts last year but 39 were in the second half, 42 were whilst his team was ahead and only 10 were in the oppositions red zone and he managed to get 2 TDs from those 10 carries.  He should get a chance tonight and it seems to me he is a big price at 15/2 with Ladbrokes to be the Texans first TD scorer and also at 9/5 to score anytime.  If he gets double digit carries, which he surely will, they both have to be value.

Ladbrokes go 6/1 (Tate!) to be First Texans TD Scorer.

Bet365 go 7/4 Tate, anytime. (Thanks Joe).

Go with those prices?

First Texan TD is actually 7/1 with PP. They name the market differently '1st team touchdown scorer'.

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/american-football/nfl-matches/Houston-Texans-At-San-Diego-Chargers-5746719.html

and scroll near bottom of page.