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« Reply #65985 on: January 19, 2014, 06:31:11 PM »

Well that makes sense. The obvious bets to have with the offer are 1-0 2-0 0-0, draw at half time, home side to score  first, home side to score last etc
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« Reply #65986 on: January 19, 2014, 06:36:17 PM »

Can't wait to read about the Ladbroke's carnage tomorrow.

Same. But interested to know what guys are expected to return from a 3-1 scoreline and would it get near surpassing their outlay if they did do 100 markets?

I am a little confused by it, so don't bit my head off for idiocy. I know it obviously depends on what you bet on, on which market, but what are people looking back on their outlay discarding their free bets, for arguments sake?

Chelsea 3-1
Chelsea H T-FT
BTTS
Red Card
Eto'o in the top three of the FGoal market

all would have seen punters on them

several hundred shops, all would have seen x extra customers betting £25 a pop on y markets..and they refund every loser?

Must be a loser of an offer as it turns out

Obv if United don't score they see a significant volume uplift

Ladbrokes results in a few weeks will be fun for the under rpessure Chief Exec.


Anyone that specifically had a bet with ladbrokes because of the offer and thought Chelsea 3-1 or both teams to score was a good way to go about it should be allowed to place bets for the rest of their life's.

Ha.

And nice one tighty. So it seems people are mainly just getting their money back in the form of free bets from this despite betting on 100 odd markets, because the scoreline isn't well backed? Their actual winners are unlikely to be anywhere near to covering their outlay? Say 10%? So you effectively get that on top of the free bets you get. But with the free bets you don't get your stake back if you win so it isn't like getting your money back.

So with the free bets and I know it depends on what you bet on, but assuming normal variance and nitty strategy, what could you be close to guaranteeing back from each of those £25 free bets?

£20 in actual money per bet? As I am making it abundantly clear I am out of my league with the company here, but trying to learn.
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« Reply #65987 on: January 19, 2014, 06:47:25 PM »

Hi junior,

Good to see you back on blonde after an absence of nearly 2 years, even gooder to welcome you to Fred.

Tell us something about yourself, are you a regular punter, do you follow a particular sport, or team, do you admire my blidey legs?

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I'm a regular punter, bet a ton on icelandic footy mainly and do q well. Haven't posted on blonde in a few years though since I stopped playing poker but recently got linked to this thread by a few lads who bet and post here so thought I'd check it out Cheesy

Just been over to laddies to collect, the bloke paid out on all the winners in the one shop without too much fuss, even though I had about 15 Chelsea 4/5 slips. Can't see people having too many problems with this tbh.
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« Reply #65988 on: January 19, 2014, 06:50:30 PM »

Can't wait to read about the Ladbroke's carnage tomorrow.

Same. But interested to know what guys are expected to return from a 3-1 scoreline and would it get near surpassing their outlay if they did do 100 markets?

I am a little confused by it, so don't bit my head off for idiocy. I know it obviously depends on what you bet on, on which market, but what are people looking back on their outlay discarding their free bets, for arguments sake?

Chelsea 3-1
Chelsea H T-FT
BTTS
Red Card
Eto'o in the top three of the FGoal market

all would have seen punters on them

several hundred shops, all would have seen x extra customers betting £25 a pop on y markets..and they refund every loser?

Must be a loser of an offer as it turns out

Obv if United don't score they see a significant volume uplift

Ladbrokes results in a few weeks will be fun for the under rpessure Chief Exec.


Anyone that specifically had a bet with ladbrokes because of the offer and thought Chelsea 3-1 or both teams to score was a good way to go about it should be allowed to place bets for the rest of their life's.

Ha.

And nice one tighty. So it seems people are mainly just getting their money back in the form of free bets from this despite betting on 100 odd markets, because the scoreline isn't well backed? Their actual winners are unlikely to be anywhere near to covering their outlay? Say 10%? So you effectively get that on top of the free bets you get. But with the free bets you don't get your stake back if you win so it isn't like getting your money back.

So with the free bets and I know it depends on what you bet on, but assuming normal variance and nitty strategy, what could you be close to guaranteeing back from each of those £25 free bets?

£20 in actual money per bet? As I am making it abundantly clear I am out of my league with the company here, but trying to learn.

I have no idea how much it will cost them

But they are refunding every penny anyone bet on Manu and the draw, while paying out Chelsea who were backed from 4/5 to 8/13.

That's millions right there.
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« Reply #65989 on: January 19, 2014, 07:00:49 PM »

Not refunding Keith, free bets, or does that look the same on a balance sheet?

I've got loads of free bets to come, barely backed a winner, despite having about 6 odds on chances, bare Chelsea to win and Chelsea to score first, managed to find a load of losers which are now free bets. Maybe it's best t start a new thread for discussion what to do with all these freebies?

Still gonna complain about the moody old sow who wouldn't entertain me at my local Laddies, probs get her a pay rise rather than the sack mind...
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« Reply #65990 on: January 19, 2014, 07:02:52 PM »

Can't wait to read about the Ladbroke's carnage tomorrow.

Same. But interested to know what guys are expected to return from a 3-1 scoreline and would it get near surpassing their outlay if they did do 100 markets?

I am a little confused by it, so don't bit my head off for idiocy. I know it obviously depends on what you bet on, on which market, but what are people looking back on their outlay discarding their free bets, for arguments sake?

Chelsea 3-1
Chelsea H T-FT
BTTS
Red Card
Eto'o in the top three of the FGoal market

all would have seen punters on them

several hundred shops, all would have seen x extra customers betting £25 a pop on y markets..and they refund every loser?

Must be a loser of an offer as it turns out

Obv if United don't score they see a significant volume uplift

Ladbrokes results in a few weeks will be fun for the under rpessure Chief Exec.


Anyone that specifically had a bet with ladbrokes because of the offer and thought Chelsea 3-1 or both teams to score was a good way to go about it should be allowed to place bets for the rest of their life's.

Ha.

And nice one tighty. So it seems people are mainly just getting their money back in the form of free bets from this despite betting on 100 odd markets, because the scoreline isn't well backed? Their actual winners are unlikely to be anywhere near to covering their outlay? Say 10%? So you effectively get that on top of the free bets you get. But with the free bets you don't get your stake back if you win so it isn't like getting your money back.

So with the free bets and I know it depends on what you bet on, but assuming normal variance and nitty strategy, what could you be close to guaranteeing back from each of those £25 free bets?

£20 in actual money per bet? As I am making it abundantly clear I am out of my league with the company here, but trying to learn.

I have no idea how much it will cost them

But they are refunding every penny anyone bet on Manu and the draw, while paying out Chelsea who were backed from 4/5 to 8/13.

That's millions right there.

Are these refunds or free bets. Huge difference.

Sonour could do her £2k on free bets straight back into their coffers.
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« Reply #65991 on: January 19, 2014, 07:04:07 PM »

Ladbrokes 3/1 about every 6/1 chance for a week?
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« Reply #65992 on: January 19, 2014, 07:04:56 PM »

Can't wait to read about the Ladbroke's carnage tomorrow.

Same. But interested to know what guys are expected to return from a 3-1 scoreline and would it get near surpassing their outlay if they did do 100 markets?

I am a little confused by it, so don't bit my head off for idiocy. I know it obviously depends on what you bet on, on which market, but what are people looking back on their outlay discarding their free bets, for arguments sake?

Chelsea 3-1
Chelsea H T-FT
BTTS
Red Card
Eto'o in the top three of the FGoal market

all would have seen punters on them

several hundred shops, all would have seen x extra customers betting £25 a pop on y markets..and they refund every loser?

Must be a loser of an offer as it turns out

Obv if United don't score they see a significant volume uplift

Ladbrokes results in a few weeks will be fun for the under rpessure Chief Exec.


Anyone that specifically had a bet with ladbrokes because of the offer and thought Chelsea 3-1 or both teams to score was a good way to go about it should be allowed to place bets for the rest of their life's.

Ha.

And nice one tighty. So it seems people are mainly just getting their money back in the form of free bets from this despite betting on 100 odd markets, because the scoreline isn't well backed? Their actual winners are unlikely to be anywhere near to covering their outlay? Say 10%? So you effectively get that on top of the free bets you get. But with the free bets you don't get your stake back if you win so it isn't like getting your money back.

So with the free bets and I know it depends on what you bet on, but assuming normal variance and nitty strategy, what could you be close to guaranteeing back from each of those £25 free bets?

£20 in actual money per bet? As I am making it abundantly clear I am out of my league with the company here, but trying to learn.

I have no idea how much it will cost them

But they are refunding every penny anyone bet on Manu and the draw, while paying out Chelsea who were backed from 4/5 to 8/13.

That's millions right there.

Are these refunds or free bets. Huge difference.

Sonour could do her £2k on free bets straight back into their coffers.

Free bets.

Still must be 90% of their face value, right?
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« Reply #65993 on: January 19, 2014, 07:05:58 PM »

Can't wait to read about the Ladbroke's carnage tomorrow.

Same. But interested to know what guys are expected to return from a 3-1 scoreline and would it get near surpassing their outlay if they did do 100 markets?

I am a little confused by it, so don't bit my head off for idiocy. I know it obviously depends on what you bet on, on which market, but what are people looking back on their outlay discarding their free bets, for arguments sake?

Chelsea 3-1
Chelsea H T-FT
BTTS
Red Card
Eto'o in the top three of the FGoal market

all would have seen punters on them

several hundred shops, all would have seen x extra customers betting £25 a pop on y markets..and they refund every loser?

Must be a loser of an offer as it turns out

Obv if United don't score they see a significant volume uplift

Ladbrokes results in a few weeks will be fun for the under rpessure Chief Exec.


Anyone that specifically had a bet with ladbrokes because of the offer and thought Chelsea 3-1 or both teams to score was a good way to go about it should be allowed to place bets for the rest of their life's.

Ha.

And nice one tighty. So it seems people are mainly just getting their money back in the form of free bets from this despite betting on 100 odd markets, because the scoreline isn't well backed? Their actual winners are unlikely to be anywhere near to covering their outlay? Say 10%? So you effectively get that on top of the free bets you get. But with the free bets you don't get your stake back if you win so it isn't like getting your money back.

So with the free bets and I know it depends on what you bet on, but assuming normal variance and nitty strategy, what could you be close to guaranteeing back from each of those £25 free bets?

£20 in actual money per bet? As I am making it abundantly clear I am out of my league with the company here, but trying to learn.

I have no idea how much it will cost them

But they are refunding every penny anyone bet on Manu and the draw, while paying out Chelsea who were backed from 4/5 to 8/13.

That's millions right there.

Are these refunds or free bets. Huge difference.

Sonour could do her £2k on free bets straight back into their coffers.
Not refunding Keith, free bets, or does that look the same on a balance sheet?

I've got loads of free bets to come, barely backed a winner, despite having about 6 odds on chances, bare Chelsea to win and Chelsea to score first, managed to find a load of losers which are now free bets. Maybe it's best t start a new thread for discussion what to do with all these freebies?

Still gonna complain about the moody old sow who wouldn't entertain me at my local Laddies, probs get her a pay rise rather than the sack mind...

They're free bets.

Such is my question of what is a safe strategy to turn that into real money if there is one? If you have a £25 free bet, what could you "definitely" look to return quite comfortably with a certain strategy?

£20?

edit: the above applies to multiple free bets that people have rather than just the one where there wouldn't be much chance of 'guaranteeing' anything from it.
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« Reply #65994 on: January 19, 2014, 07:10:00 PM »

I guess Doobs optimum free bet strategy goes out of the window now with so much money on the line?
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« Reply #65995 on: January 19, 2014, 07:15:22 PM »

Is there a time limit on redeeming these free bets. Seems you will actually lose equity if forced to spend and make bad choices.
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« Reply #65996 on: January 19, 2014, 07:15:33 PM »

Betting both ends of a 5/6 two horse race would get you £20 back for two of them (I assume you don't get a free bet refunded?), but it's not the most exciting way of doing it. I expect it also involves you having to walk to a second shop.

Would still think instinctively that the "normal" rules of these free bets apply as to how best to place them; there's just more of them.
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« Reply #65997 on: January 19, 2014, 07:15:49 PM »

I guess Doobs optimum free bet strategy goes out of the window now with so much money on the line?

Interesting quandary.

It maybe depends on what %age of the freebies are profit.
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« Reply #65998 on: January 19, 2014, 07:16:29 PM »

Is there a time limit on redeeming these free bets. Seems you will actually lose equity if forced to spend and make bad choices.

7 day expiry from todays kick off i believe

Using the free bets wisely or correctly will be the difference between it being a good offer and an excellent one imo
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« Reply #65999 on: January 19, 2014, 07:23:25 PM »

I have returned, by my sums and from 80 bets placed:

40 free bets at £25 a pop
4 returns of £25 from 'x no bet' markets
36 winners returning £1570.05

I actually had a £400 hedge with @ 11/10 on ' BTTS - no' when they were 11/10 Friday afternoon as an approximate hedge.

I reckoned my average expectation was c£400. As it is I am £270 in front but in free bets...from which I will prob nick 80-90% back if I'm savvy so not a tremendous result but alright. Always have enjoyed taking money off Lads since they restricted my dad's account for the temerity to be related to me, pathetic shower.
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