Tips for Tikay

[Rubbish2407]

What are you saying Milli, I shot over Camel? Really? I think you should keep stuff like that to yourself Bud! 

[Rubbish2407]

Be quick and get £50 on betfred on hurricane fly at 4/1
https://betfred.mobi/sports/horses/event/3080436.2

Totesport pls

They don't seem to be offering it. 11/4 @ present.

Maybe they sussed that yesterday peeps were doing both Sites.

You are restricted at BetDead but not at the Nanny.  So you go to the Nanny first when time restricted.  The offer ended at 12.30.  

A couple of improvements people could make would be to put Paddy Power and Laddies offers on the Cheltenham thread.  

It would be good to flag Betfred bets as totesport ones just in case Tikay goes to the wrong place.

Redarmi mentioned this yesterday, but if people carry on using badly damaged accounts to put 50p on, it isn't a good thing.  Paddies get to find out that lots of people want to back outcome X just for a liability of a pound to Paddies.  I never use my Ladbrokes account for this reason, they really do seem to cut prices even though they have barely laid a pound sometimes.

I am not sure if it is wise to put up click links to bookie sites either.  If Ladbrokes get 30 people clicking a link here and all betting £50, it wouldn't be too hard for them to put 2 and 2 together.  

I'd also caution against anyone volunteering to bets at Paddies on for Tikay on this thread.  Arrangements off site are best kept that way.

I do try to use Totesport before BetFred, but, bizarrely, BetFred often have better prices. There is no explaining that anamoly.

I generaly have been non-Restricted by BetFred. This week, they've been a bit hard on me, maybe because of all the Offers, & maybe also because X gave me a horse at 10/1 which romped home for rather more than I normally bet.  

I'm unclear why placing tiddlearses with, say, PP & £3.65 is a bad thing? When PP began Restricting me (severely) it was nearly 2 years ago, & I had £400 in my PP account. I now have over £800 in that Account, just from tiddlearsing. And, of late, Chelters excepted, they'll often lay me a "sensible" sized bet on the more liquid markets. Ditto ditto Bet365, which had £350 in when they first Restricted me, it now has £1,100 in the Account, all from tiddlearsing. Some of it is non-Fred stuff, I should add.

And yes, I really ought to withdraw these various lumps of cash laying around in Bookies accounts. I need a PA. Or wife. I often have to Deposit on other sites, so it makes no sense to leave all that cash there. Scared of the withdrawal curse, maybe, it is rigged, you know. I read that on 2+2, so it has to be true.

Links to Bookies sites/Offers are ill-advised? I disagree. There is a complete disconnect on Fred as to the Fred effect with bookies. Did you know that Online Bookies have a crude yardstick to measure bet volume ahead of major betting events? They measure BETS PER SECOND. And they are measured in HUNDREDS. Think about that sheer volume. So I'm utterly convinced that a few dozen Freddies don't make a dot of difference, & the Bookies don't give a toss, or even know we exist. Obv, if we all lump on a thin market at the same time, prices are bound to move. There's nothing sinister in that.

Appreciate your input on this, even though I don't agree with all of it.

Thanks for the heads up Mr K, thought we were buddies?  

[MahoganyVic]

I don't post much and therefore my opinion doesn't really matter, but I preferred it without offers/ promos being posted so much. The thread just seems full of bookie price boosts which are obviously normally good bets, but what I love about the thread is reading the opinions and discussions of various markets. It just seems too easy go go arb hunting/ watching for boosts and posting

[redarmi]

From my point of view id rather read a 100 line essay from Ant about a palace game than any mention of offers/arbing/free bets etc- just a personal preference. Give me opinions and bets over the other stuff any day of the week

Will clarify- once we've all understood that offers and free bets are +ev then there isn't much more to bring to the discussion, the offers and free bets are usually small stakes anyway.

As for arbing- it's a hard way to make an easy living and not a route I want to go down. Feels like it's the last resort of a gambler when the game is getting to hard and can't be beaten anymore. Compare it to poker and if you are good you play online cash, when can't beat they move to online mtts/sngs. When can't beat that live cash, eventually end up live mtts and assume last resort is live sngs during wsop. Arbing is the equivalent of having to sit in the rio playing for lammers in sngs, undoubtably profitable , but the last resort for a means to an end.

Thats my summer sorted then......

[tikay]

I don't post much and therefore my opinion doesn't really matter, but I preferred it without offers/ promos being posted so much. The thread just seems full of bookie price boosts which are obviously normally good bets, but what I love about the thread is reading the opinions and discussions of various markets. It just seems too easy go go arb hunting/ watching for boosts and posting

Fair comment, & it will worsen in the days leading up to Cheltenham, but after that, it'll revert to normal, which is not so bad.

I don't really want to discourage anyone from Posting whatever they wish. It may - or may not - be a slight irritant to read stuff we don't all enjoy, but overall, it's part of of how things work here, & I think it's tolerable. Young Aaron may disagree, of course, but his tolerance threshold is rather low by most standards... 

[sonour]

Tikay,

You asked earlier about PP Messenger. It is an app. You need to go to the App Store and download it. You will need your apple id and password. My  apple id which is my email address comes up automatically. It is free. Then login with your normal PP login details.

[tikay]

From my point of view id rather read a 100 line essay from Ant about a palace game than any mention of offers/arbing/free bets etc- just a personal preference. Give me opinions and bets over the other stuff any day of the week

Will clarify- once we've all understood that offers and free bets are +ev then there isn't much more to bring to the discussion, the offers and free bets are usually small stakes anyway.

As for arbing- it's a hard way to make an easy living and not a route I want to go down. Feels like it's the last resort of a gambler when the game is getting to hard and can't be beaten anymore. Compare it to poker and if you are good you play online cash, when can't beat they move to online mtts/sngs. When can't beat that live cash, eventually end up live mtts and assume last resort is live sngs during wsop. Arbing is the equivalent of having to sit in the rio playing for lammers in sngs, undoubtably profitable , but the last resort for a means to an end.

Thats my summer sorted then......

Right pissed me off, that Post by Dubs, playing Rio SNG's for Lammers was the very height of my poker ambition. I never did like him, much prefer that Moorman bloke, at least he smiled in the winner's 'photo.

[tikay]

Tikay,

You asked earlier about PP Messenger. It is an app. You need to go to the App Store and download it. You will need your apple id and password. My  apple id which is my email address comes up automatically. It is free. Then login with your normal PP login details.

Lovely, thanks. Except I had major Apple Log-In problems yesterday.

Might be easily resolved, might not, see.....


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/apple-refuses-unlock-dead-womans-3214436


Anyway, will try a bit later. I'll tell them I'm still breathing.

[exstream]

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[redarmi]

All joking apart I think Dubais post was a good one.  I know Keith tipped Hull in the Cup a few weeks ago but there is almost never a reasoned argument to bet a football team on here these days and rarely does someone go into great detail about a horse they like etc.   I have never mentioned this before but the reason I came to Blonde in the first place was because I knew Keith posted here and we had mutual friends who respected his view so when I saw he posted here I thought I would keep visiting to see if I could learn something new and then discovered that the place was full of smart punters and quite friendly.  Personally I can almost never get on any of the offers when I am not in the UK but i lie to read about them and I think Sonour in particular has brough a great deal to the table and it is testament to the strength of Fred that Arbboy is so keen to not get banned he has resisted having a single ruck here yet!!!!

[exstream]

https://www.betbright.com/lg/7199/510

seems a very good offer

[Doobs]

I don't post much and therefore my opinion doesn't really matter, but I preferred it without offers/ promos being posted so much. The thread just seems full of bookie price boosts which are obviously normally good bets, but what I love about the thread is reading the opinions and discussions of various markets. It just seems too easy go go arb hunting/ watching for boosts and posting

Fair comment, & it will worsen in the days leading up to Cheltenham, but after that, it'll revert to normal, which is not so bad.

I don't really want to discourage anyone from Posting whatever they wish. It may - or may not - be a slight irritant to read stuff we don't all enjoy, but overall, it's part of of how things work here, & I think it's tolerable. Young Aaron may disagree, of course, but his tolerance threshold is rather low by most standards... 

Worsen?  Didn't we make a killing last year at Cheltenham taking advantage of bookies generous offers.  Think it is going to be tougher this year with less avenues open.

Finding an each way race paying 5 places and putting the max you can on, isn't a lot different than finding somebody willing to give you a 2nd place free bet, or finding a bookie willing to pay you each way in a one sided International.  I'd say they were all much more like the cash/sit and go/lammers grind. Might get a bit boring after a while, but you still have to eat.

Now finding out Eddie The Eagle is already off the high board, that is much more like your MTT bink.

Really is nothing stopping people putting well thought out posts up, probably a better way to address the current imbalance than cutting out the offers stuff.  

[TightEnd]

There's plenty of well researched stuff that goes up, football included. Just that some very high profile and successful posters don't tip on here anymore so the breadth is narrower. Would be better if they posted, obviously.

[sonour]

Thanks for the kind words Red.

[mondatoo]

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