Tips for Tikay

[MereNovice]

is there a site or online resource to follow numbers of breaks in tennis matches?

asking for a friend

http://www.protennislive.com/LSHD/main.html?year=2014&wkno=10&eventid=M006&tour=2&lang=en&ref=http://www.wtatennis.com

[Tal]

Quick quiz question. The connection, please:

[TightEnd]

10    M Raonic (CAN)    1     4   7
5    A Murray (GB)    1     6   5

We have a shot

[Rubbish2407]

All have the same Surname.

[Tal]

All have the same Surname.

Yes, there are now six players on the Bills roster with the surname Williams. Plenty of time to draft some more in, too.

Having seen our wide receivers last season, I reckon I could do a job.

[bunnydas8888]

Ulul whoever is was that needed Katgary.

Think we need to be snapping up 10-1 Lewis Hamilton for SPOTY, as recced by someone earlier?

I don't really agree with this

think I prefer Rory at 16/1, four majors and a Glenegles ryder cup to go at

Rory is popular, and Lewis very marmite. Didn't win it in 2008 when he won an exciting championship, all on terrestial tv.....

Long time Lurker, first time poster (hate that its to do with SPOTY).  

Lewis only lost it in 08 because the Sir Chris of Hoy got 3 golds in Beijing (first time for a Brit to get 3 Golds in 1 Olympics), looking at previous F1 contenders for SPOTY and you see that Button(09) lost out to Ryan Giggs when he had what most thought would be his last season in the prem league (and so a massive crowd favourite).  Before that then you have Lewis again in 07 when he came close but was pipped to the championship by the alcoholic Finn.  Going back further and we start talking about Hill, Mansell and Stewart, all of which won it.

Rory looked vulnerable the other week when massively clear and he clutched defeat from the jaws of victory.

Unless we win the World Cup, I don't see anyone else winning SPOTY this year.

Plus, I'm pretty sure I saw Lewis at 20/1 e/w 1,2,3 in the laddies shop today.

[arbboy]

Ulul whoever is was that needed Katgary.

Think we need to be snapping up 10-1 Lewis Hamilton for SPOTY, as recced by someone earlier?

I don't really agree with this

think I prefer Rory at 16/1, four majors and a Glenegles ryder cup to go at

Rory is popular, and Lewis very marmite. Didn't win it in 2008 when he won an exciting championship, all on terrestial tv.....

Long time Lurker, first time poster (hate that its to do with SPOTY).  

Lewis only lost it in 08 because the Sir Chris of Hoy got 3 golds in Beijing (first time for a Brit to get 3 Golds in 1 Olympics), looking at previous F1 contenders for SPOTY and you see that Button(09) lost out to Ryan Giggs when he had what most thought would be his last season in the prem league (and so a massive crowd favourite).  Before that then you have Lewis again in 07 when he came close but was pipped to the championship by the alcoholic Finn.  Going back further and we start talking about Hill, Mansell and Stewart, all of which won it.

Rory looked vulnerable the other week when massively clear and he clutched defeat from the jaws of victory.

Unless we win the World Cup, I don't see anyone else winning SPOTY this year.

Plus, I'm pretty sure I saw Lewis at 20/1 e/w 1,2,3 in the laddies shop today.

This has got to be the weakest SPOTY field in my lifetime i would say.  If Lewis can't win it this year surely he will never win it.  Anyone think Froch is a big price 100/1 ew 1/4 1,2,3 at coral when others at 1/5 1,2,3???  Has been done for £50 at 65/1 on bf already.  Surely in such a weak field if he beats Groves which he is odds on to do he can't be a massive price to either a)retire there and then or b) have a fight later in the year in vegas and then retire.  Either way in such a weak year 100/1 looks big surely?

Another interesting fact no winner has ever retained the trophy the following year.  Is this actually that significant given the fact the majority of winners are from world cups/atheltic world champs/oly games etc etc its very hard to go back to back for the majority of winners as they don't have an event they can win the following year? 

[hector62]

No double whammy Mr T as there was only 1 break in the first set.

However Raonic won the final set 6-3 for a small profit.

[Tonji]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlmOqhwtPz8

For Lara Gut fans 

The women raced the same course as the men this morning. Lara won with a time less than 3 seconds off the men's winning time. Impressive!

[Tal]

Candidates Chess starts tomorrow morning at 9am. Coverage will be on Chess Thread with daily updates. I know Fred isn't on, so I'll keep it over there.

BigAdz and JaffaCake can barely contain their excitement

[GreekWay]

Concentrating at the World Hurdle tomorrow I have found the following offers:

Ladbrokes: According to Tighty, Ladbrokes are taking on Annie Power but vowing to refund stakes as a free bet if Willie Mullins' mare wins the race they sponsor, the World Hurdle. Annie Power is the big-race favourite at 6/4 at present, although Ladbrokes say they will go up with 9/4 in the morning. The money-back offer will go live at 0900 GMT with a maximum of £25 to be refunded.

They also have an offer that if you back a winner at 3/1 or higher using your mobile you get a free bet.

Paddy Power have an offer that if your horse finishes 2nd to Annie Power they will refund your stake. Offer starts at 10am tomorrow and the max is £100.

William Hill run their usual mobile offer.

Bet365 give you a free bet if you back a 4/1 winner. Big Bucks is 7/2 at the moment.

Betfred will pay out at double SP odds if you place a SP bet on Annie Power and she wins by over 4 lenghts.


Any ideas on how to use any of the above offers in conjunction?

[GreekWay]

Looking ahead to tomorrow's Cheltenham action, Ladbrokes are taking on Annie Power but vowing to refund stakes as a free bet if Willie Mullins' mare wins the race they sponsor, the World Hurdle.

Annie Power is the big-race favourite at 6/4 at present, although Ladbrokes say they will go up with 9/4 in the morning.

The money-back offer will go live at 0900 GMT with a maximum of £25 to be refunded.

The firm's David Williams said: "Annie Power is the stand out horse on day three and we're dangling an enormous carrot with this money back pledge framed around her winning.

"We're thrilled to bits that the showdown with Big Buck's is on in what we believe is the clash of the week and we fully expect this offer to trigger the busiest build-up to the racing we've seen all week across all our key channels."

Annie Power's main rival is four-time winner Big Buck's, about whom Boylesports are currently offering 4/1.

So if they go for a refund offer which of the two is worth it? Backing Annie Power or Big Bucks?

Discuss.

I believe that is a question for the expert Mr. Doobs.

Without doing the maths properly.

Ladbrokes have Big Bucks 3/1 vs 4.3/1 on Betfair, At Fishers Cross 8/1 vs 10.25/1 Betfair.  Doesn't seem a big improvement including the offer.

Annie Power is 9/4 vs 1.65/1 (13/8 ish) Betfair.  You can see that is a lot better.

Plus I think Annie Power is fantastic, makes it easy to say 9/4 Annie Power get as much as you can.

Anybody else get that 5/1 NRNB Annie Power?  

Is it worth it to back Bug Bucks with Laddies and lay it on BF to get the potential free bet?

What about the Paddy Power offer which is £100 max but horse needs to finish 2nd to Annie? Worth to do the same as above?

[sonour]

Looking ahead to tomorrow's Cheltenham action, Ladbrokes are taking on Annie Power but vowing to refund stakes as a free bet if Willie Mullins' mare wins the race they sponsor, the World Hurdle.

Annie Power is the big-race favourite at 6/4 at present, although Ladbrokes say they will go up with 9/4 in the morning.

The money-back offer will go live at 0900 GMT with a maximum of £25 to be refunded.

The firm's David Williams said: "Annie Power is the stand out horse on day three and we're dangling an enormous carrot with this money back pledge framed around her winning.

"We're thrilled to bits that the showdown with Big Buck's is on in what we believe is the clash of the week and we fully expect this offer to trigger the busiest build-up to the racing we've seen all week across all our key channels."

Annie Power's main rival is four-time winner Big Buck's, about whom Boylesports are currently offering 4/1.

So if they go for a refund offer which of the two is worth it? Backing Annie Power or Big Bucks?

Discuss.

I believe that is a question for the expert Mr. Doobs.

Without doing the maths properly.

Ladbrokes have Big Bucks 3/1 vs 4.3/1 on Betfair, At Fishers Cross 8/1 vs 10.25/1 Betfair.  Doesn't seem a big improvement including the offer.

Annie Power is 9/4 vs 1.65/1 (13/8 ish) Betfair.  You can see that is a lot better.

Plus I think Annie Power is fantastic, makes it easy to say 9/4 Annie Power get as much as you can.

Anybody else get that 5/1 NRNB Annie Power?   

Is it worth it to back Bug Bucks with Laddies and lay it on BF to get the potential free bet?

Hi GreekWay,

We've been here before haven't we ?

If you are only having one bet and can afford to lose £25 can I suggest you don't go this route and just back Big Bucks and hope it either wins or Annie Power wins and you get your money back.

If you are having a large number of bets or really want to lock in a small profit for any outcome then you need to back and underlay Big Bucks and also lay Annie Power.

If you want me to pm you figures let me know but it is giving away EV and we will have Doobs after us

[GreekWay]

Looking ahead to tomorrow's Cheltenham action, Ladbrokes are taking on Annie Power but vowing to refund stakes as a free bet if Willie Mullins' mare wins the race they sponsor, the World Hurdle.

Annie Power is the big-race favourite at 6/4 at present, although Ladbrokes say they will go up with 9/4 in the morning.

The money-back offer will go live at 0900 GMT with a maximum of £25 to be refunded.

The firm's David Williams said: "Annie Power is the stand out horse on day three and we're dangling an enormous carrot with this money back pledge framed around her winning.

"We're thrilled to bits that the showdown with Big Buck's is on in what we believe is the clash of the week and we fully expect this offer to trigger the busiest build-up to the racing we've seen all week across all our key channels."

Annie Power's main rival is four-time winner Big Buck's, about whom Boylesports are currently offering 4/1.

So if they go for a refund offer which of the two is worth it? Backing Annie Power or Big Bucks?

Discuss.

I believe that is a question for the expert Mr. Doobs.

Without doing the maths properly.

Ladbrokes have Big Bucks 3/1 vs 4.3/1 on Betfair, At Fishers Cross 8/1 vs 10.25/1 Betfair.  Doesn't seem a big improvement including the offer.

Annie Power is 9/4 vs 1.65/1 (13/8 ish) Betfair.  You can see that is a lot better.

Plus I think Annie Power is fantastic, makes it easy to say 9/4 Annie Power get as much as you can.

Anybody else get that 5/1 NRNB Annie Power?  

Is it worth it to back Bug Bucks with Laddies and lay it on BF to get the potential free bet?

Hi GreekWay,

We've been here before haven't we ?

If you are only having one bet and can afford to lose £25 can I suggest you don't go this route and just back Big Bucks and hope it either wins or Annie Power wins and you get your money back.

If you are having a large number of bets or really want to lock in a small profit for any outcome then you need to back and underlay Big Bucks and also lay Annie Power.

If you want me to pm you figures let me know but it is giving away EV and we will have Doobs after us

I just can't understand how to use the racing offers, that's my problem. And for Cheltenham there are numerous offers out there. But on the other hand, I am happy that people in this thread help me to look a bit smarter than I am.

To make things even more complicated I have a 25% refund with Betfair tomorrow if I don't make a profit on Cheltenham. I had a 50% refund offer today and got a £100 payday but they decide to make it half for tomorrow. Can't see why.

To be honest, I can afford to lose £25 and back Big Bucks to benefit from the Laddies offer. But I can't afford to lose £100 if I do the Paddy one which is a bit trickier as your horse needs to finish 2nd to Annie.

[sonour]

Looking ahead to tomorrow's Cheltenham action, Ladbrokes are taking on Annie Power but vowing to refund stakes as a free bet if Willie Mullins' mare wins the race they sponsor, the World Hurdle.

Annie Power is the big-race favourite at 6/4 at present, although Ladbrokes say they will go up with 9/4 in the morning.

The money-back offer will go live at 0900 GMT with a maximum of £25 to be refunded.

The firm's David Williams said: "Annie Power is the stand out horse on day three and we're dangling an enormous carrot with this money back pledge framed around her winning.

"We're thrilled to bits that the showdown with Big Buck's is on in what we believe is the clash of the week and we fully expect this offer to trigger the busiest build-up to the racing we've seen all week across all our key channels."

Annie Power's main rival is four-time winner Big Buck's, about whom Boylesports are currently offering 4/1.

So if they go for a refund offer which of the two is worth it? Backing Annie Power or Big Bucks?

Discuss.

I believe that is a question for the expert Mr. Doobs.

Without doing the maths properly.

Ladbrokes have Big Bucks 3/1 vs 4.3/1 on Betfair, At Fishers Cross 8/1 vs 10.25/1 Betfair.  Doesn't seem a big improvement including the offer.

Annie Power is 9/4 vs 1.65/1 (13/8 ish) Betfair.  You can see that is a lot better.

Plus I think Annie Power is fantastic, makes it easy to say 9/4 Annie Power get as much as you can.

Anybody else get that 5/1 NRNB Annie Power?   

Is it worth it to back Bug Bucks with Laddies and lay it on BF to get the potential free bet?

Hi GreekWay,

We've been here before haven't we ?

If you are only having one bet and can afford to lose £25 can I suggest you don't go this route and just back Big Bucks and hope it either wins or Annie Power wins and you get your money back.

If you are having a large number of bets or really want to lock in a small profit for any outcome then you need to back and underlay Big Bucks and also lay Annie Power.

If you want me to pm you figures let me know but it is giving away EV and we will have Doobs after us

I just can't understand how to use the racing offers, that's my problem. And for Cheltenham there are numerous offers out there. But on the other hand, I am happy that people in this thread help me to look a bit smarter than I am.

To be honest, I can afford to lose £25 and back Big Bucks to benefit from the Laddies offer. But I can't afford to lose £100 if I do the Paddy one which is a bit trickier as your horse needs to finish 2nd to Annie.

You can't guarantee a profit on that PP offer. The only technique you can use is arb and hope. For this you need to find a horse which is higher at PP than Betfair which will be nearly impossible. Then back and lay for no loss and hope it comes second to Annie Power. Some Advantage Players will be prepared to take a small lose for the chance of the big profit if their selection does come second to Annie Power.

You don't have to bet £100 on the PP offer. You can bet any amount up to £100. Again just back your fancy with an amount you are comfortable to lose and hope it wins or comes second to Annie Power for the refund.

Good luck.