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[TightEnd]

sl 2.3 eng 2.5 draw 6.2

eng 2.5 is ridiculous, famous last words, chasing 350 against herath

[Dubai]

Come on Tighty you're way better than using historical run chases in test cricket to argue a point. It's probably the single most irrelevant stat commonly used, could write 1000 words why but assume most people will get it

[claypole]

If you can get on at with Sid James David Villa is either a bet or a quick Arb, plenty to lay on betdaq for a quick £50 freeroll

[claypole]

Booooooom - I'll maintain my 4.54pm
Posting success. Gtfi

[sonour]

Come on Tighty you're way better than using historical run chases in test cricket to argue a point. It's probably the single most irrelevant stat commonly used, could write 1000 words why but assume most people will get it

Educate me please Dubai

[arbboy]

Come on Tighty you're way better than using historical run chases in test cricket to argue a point. It's probably the single most irrelevant stat commonly used, could write 1000 words why but assume most people will get it

Educate me please Dubai

1000 words please!

[TightEnd]

generally

- pitches are better these days, and in the old days were uncovered
- in the one day cricket era teams chase better, at faster run rates

but, the general point is still valid, which was that 2.5 england was far too short (i think)


until 2010 teams achieved over 300 in 7% of fourth innings over a 110 year sample, whatever the result win lose or draw

since then 300 has been achieved in 16% of fourth innings of test matches, over only a 3.5 year sample

so its more possible, but still unlikely as we can see what herath is doing now, not easy to play on a fourth/fifth day pitch

[TightEnd]

If you can get on at with Sid James David Villa is either a bet or a quick Arb, plenty to lay on betdaq for a quick £50 freeroll

we don't have stan james or betdaq

post the next one though, it may suit better, thanks

[Dubai]

Will post later as busy but

Sample size- England are pre strong game favs, batting on a pitch where runs have increased per innings not decreased- that isn't like a typical day 4/5 pitch, and need less than 3 an over.

Most of the time chasing 350 either you have 2 days cos the pitch is terrible and have no chance or you need to get it at 4.5/5 an over and have no chance. Rarely do you get a decent pitch, the odds on favs, and less than 3 an over needed. It will happen more in next 10 years but historically it just wouldn't have happened. Obv uncovered pitches make half the stats irrelevant instantly

[Dubai]

Of the 16% what % was achieved in games where 2/3 of the innings went over 300 and scores increased per innings- historical test match stats are a waste of time. The variables just are so different that they can't be compared.

[Dubai]

All I said was you were better than historical stats

England's best batsmen and certainly key man in a chase like this where no super pressure on run rate being out of nick and England's lack of experience in key positions at 3 and 6 are way more important than historical run chasing stats where the variables in each case are incomparable

[TightEnd]

Of the 16% what % was achieved in games where 2/3 of the innings went over 300 and scores increased per innings- historical test match stats are a waste of time. The variables just are so different that they can't be compared.

don't know the answer to that but there is certainly a validity to historic stats, big sample sizes if you accept some of the issues are less valid than they were

one of the key reasons the scores are going up this game are that england aren't playing a front line spinner. sri lanka don't score their second innings score if (for example) the swann of 2010-12 is playing. to an extent its independent of pitch, its down to the composition of the england team (and ineffective captaincy)

[TightEnd]

All I said was you were better than historical stats

England's best batsmen and certainly key man in a chase like this where no super pressure on run rate being out of nick and England's lack of experience in key positions at 3 and 6 are way more important than historical run chasing stats where the variables in each case are incomparable

i think that's a compliment

and yes, i agree, the fact that england are rebuilding, are callow in batting (2,3,5,6 all inexperienced), have no spinner etc is more important than any stat.

[bunnydas8888]

All I said was you were better than historical stats

England's best batsmen and certainly key man in a chase like this where no super pressure on run rate being out of nick and England's lack of experience in key positions at 3 and 6 are way more important than historical run chasing stats where the variables in each case are incomparable

i think that's a compliment

and yes, i agree, the fact that england are rebuilding, are callow in batting (2,3,5,6 all inexperienced), have no spinner etc is more important than any stat.

What are your thoughts on Monty? My personal opinion is that he is perhaps the only spinner we have at the moment that could/should be playing.  The only reason he isn't is because of his *ahem* extra curricular activities in Brighton however long ago & as such the ECB don't like him.  Yes he can't bat (although he won us the ashes with his batting) and his fielding isn't great, but that could "easily" be improved?

[TightEnd]

All I said was you were better than historical stats

England's best batsmen and certainly key man in a chase like this where no super pressure on run rate being out of nick and England's lack of experience in key positions at 3 and 6 are way more important than historical run chasing stats where the variables in each case are incomparable

i think that's a compliment

and yes, i agree, the fact that england are rebuilding, are callow in batting (2,3,5,6 all inexperienced), have no spinner etc is more important than any stat.

What are your thoughts on Monty? My personal opinion is that he is perhaps the only spinner we have at the moment that could/should be playing.  The only reason he isn't is because of his *ahem* extra curricular activities in Brighton however long ago & as such the ECB don't like him.  Yes he can't bat (although he won us the ashes with his batting) and his fielding isn't great, but that could "easily" be improved?

our best spinner currently available but unpickable because of the off the field stuff. it wasn't just brighton he has been suspended by essex twice for ill discipline, and of course cook has seen this first hand. if you aren't a team player then this england regime aren't picking you...

him apart there isn't a spinner we can pick who looks good enough or ready. swann retired through injury about 18 months ahead of any succession plan and attempts to try kerrigan or borthwick both never got off the ground

so we are a bit stuffed really, and in neither test of this summer have we produced a pitch to suit a 4 man pace attack. baffling