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« Reply #106830 on: September 14, 2015, 12:19:52 AM »

Congrats Tal A.J McCarron might come in as QB now.
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« Reply #106831 on: September 14, 2015, 12:24:09 AM »

Congrats Tal A.J McCarron might come in as QB now.

Yes, you can tell them to do that, please.  

24 yard pass helps.

Excellent, home and hosed, well done Tal. Been a good day for you, what with this, and Spurs besting Sunderland.

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And lol. I'd be delighted to be in the top ten. But thank you anyway Smiley You'll soon change your tune when we get rid of all that horrible money next week.
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« Reply #106832 on: September 14, 2015, 07:49:32 AM »

Carlson Palmer threw for 303 yards yesterday. The team is definitely designed to stretch the play and there were a few occasions where Palmer tried long (50 yard) passes to his speedy receivers. On another day, 303 could have been sailed past.  

He was playing against a team that throws a lot and that isn't the best at stopping the pass, so it's only slightly above a par score, probably. He won't be expected to get that kind of total in the two divisional games against Seattle, for example. Nevertheless, 303 is a good start. If we work on 4,500 as a basic benchmark for top three, that needs 285.25 yards per game.

Conversely, in the Offensive Rookie of the Year market, while a rookie quarterback threw four TD passes and stole the show, Devin Funchess had one catch for 9 yards. We will be hoping for some improvement during the season, although it ain't how you start, it's how you finish. Right?
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« Reply #106833 on: September 14, 2015, 09:51:01 AM »

Carlson Palmer threw for 303 yards yesterday. The team is definitely designed to stretch the play and there were a few occasions where Palmer tried long (50 yard) passes to his speedy receivers. On another day, 303 could have been sailed past. 

He was playing against a team that throws a lot and that isn't the best at stopping the pass, so it's only slightly above a par score, probably. He won't be expected to get that kind of total in the two divisional games against Seattle, for example. Nevertheless, 303 is a good start. If we work on 4,500 as a basic benchmark for top three, that needs 285.25 yards per game.

Conversely, in the Offensive Rookie of the Year market, while a rookie quarterback threw four TD passes and stole the show, Devin Funchess had one catch for 9 yards. We will be hoping for some improvement during the season, although it ain't how you start, it's how you finish. Right?

Our two players carson and big ben are top 5 after week 1

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« Reply #106834 on: September 14, 2015, 10:03:18 AM »

also yesterday


we won a bet on andy dalton. thread can now die happy, threads do  not win on andy dalton that often. the bengals triumvirate of hill/aj green and eifert took the raiders to the cleaners



six of jj watts 9 tackles took place behind the line of scrimmage....didn't need a helmet either. seven sacks in the game but no safety



not a bad goal for the sunderland relegation bet



Spot the goalscorer, not great for a relegation bet but i don't care

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Djokovic becomes 5th man with 10 Grand Slam titles in the Open Era joining Federer (17), Nadal (14), Pete Sampras (14) and Bjorn Borg (11).

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and the story of one man's night

Tom Coughlin, coach of the NY Giants

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leading the cowboys 23-20 with 1.27 left the giants were driving

the cowboys were out of time outs

3rd down and 3

run the ball, take 30 seconds off the clock, then do it again

cowboys would then have to go 80 yards in 27 seconds to win it

but no eli manning threw it incomplete, stop the clock

go for it on 4th, run around a bit and and waste 30 seconds?

no, kick a field goal 26-20

cowboys without Dez with a broken foot drive the 80 yards and score the winning touchdown with 7 seconds left

"there is no one to blame but me" said Coughlin for the horrendous time management



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« Reply #106835 on: September 14, 2015, 02:37:17 PM »


leading the cowboys 23-20 with 1.27 left the giants were driving

the cowboys were out of time outs

3rd down and 3

run the ball, take 30 seconds off the clock, then do it again

cowboys would then have to go 80 yards in 27 seconds to win it

but no eli manning threw it incomplete, stop the clock

go for it on 4th, run around a bit and and waste 30 seconds?

no, kick a field goal 26-20

cowboys without Dez with a broken foot drive the 80 yards and score the winning touchdown with 7 seconds left

"there is no one to blame but me" said Coughlin for the horrendous time management



the NFL is back, one of the greatest sporting soap operas each year round  


You can't just burn 30 seconds on 4th down by kneeling, and its pretty impossible to "run around" for 30 seconds too. So kicking a field goal was the only option there.

The Cowboys would have had ~ 1:03 left with the ball had Eli not thrown it on 3rd, as it's a 40 second clock and there was 1:43 left at the 3rd down snap.

That being said, it was an awful decision to throw by Eli and almost certainly cost the game.
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« Reply #106836 on: September 14, 2015, 02:49:13 PM »

the clock was running (i think, it was late and i was trying to stay awake!), run the play clock down to the 1 second mark and run

4th down, do the same

a minute is gone

time is more important than the field goal there.

we agree though, throwing the ball is the same as giving dallas an extra time out in that spot
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« Reply #106837 on: September 14, 2015, 03:17:03 PM »

the clock was running (i think, it was late and i was trying to stay awake!), run the play clock down to the 1 second mark and run

4th down, do the same

a minute is gone

time is more important than the field goal there.

we agree though, throwing the ball is the same as giving dallas an extra time out in that spot

What i'm saying is you can't just run on 4th down as it's a turnover on downs and the clock will stop at the end of that play regardless.

I agree Eli should just give the play up and slide down and let the time run, into 4th down, which would leave 1:03 on the clock with them kicking the field goal. Instead they gave him the ball back with 30 seconds more than they should have.

Take nothing away from the drive though, Tony Romo take a bow.
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« Reply #106838 on: September 14, 2015, 03:20:23 PM »

the clock was running (i think, it was late and i was trying to stay awake!), run the play clock down to the 1 second mark and run

4th down, do the same

a minute is gone

time is more important than the field goal there.

we agree though, throwing the ball is the same as giving dallas an extra time out in that spot

I turned over straight after the tennis finished and thought it was an amazing finish to the game.  It summed up everything that is great about the NFL.  Fair play to Romo.  He takes a lot of flak from the haters.

I wasn't sure on the rule on 4th down regarding the clock (what Matty says makes logical sense to me - the clock surely stops on a turnover of any kind?).  Not kicking the FG and leaving it at 3 points knowing Dallas only needed to get a FG to take it to OT seems more risky to me.  Lot of results orientated BS being spoke about by the media imo.  Dallas were a dog still (11/8) when they got the ball back to score a TD and win the game.  The 3rd down was awful.  If they took another 30 seconds off the clock then Dallas are probably a 3/1 shot to win the game.

Great finish though.
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« Reply #106839 on: September 14, 2015, 04:15:23 PM »

I read ages ago in a very long analysis somewhere that 3 points is the best number to be ahead when defending a final drive as the driving team will often settle for a field goal and OT rather than play optimally for a touchdown in tight clock situations.

A link would help my point but can't remember where it was.
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« Reply #106840 on: September 14, 2015, 05:55:23 PM »

Quick look at the Championship fixtures tomorrow and amazed to see that all teams that played at home on Saturday/Sunday are again at home in the middle of the week, whilst some away teams who are all on their travels again, face two very long trips in a few days. I don't think I have ever seen that before.

Rotherham back from a trip to London, are in Brighton on Tuesday

MK Dons back from Middlesbrough, are in Burnley on Tuesday

Hull faced Brighton, now a midweek trip to Cardiff

Brentford faced Leeds, now a midweek trip to Middlesbrough

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« Reply #106841 on: September 14, 2015, 05:58:13 PM »

Quick look at the Championship fixtures tomorrow and amazed to see that all teams that played at home on Saturday/Sunday are again at home in the middle of the week, whilst some away teams who are all on their travels again, face two very long trips in a few days. I don't think I have ever seen that before.

Rotherham back from a trip to London, are in Brighton on Tuesday

MK Dons back from Middlesbrough, are in Burnley on Tuesday

Hull faced Brighton, now a midweek trip to Cardiff

Brentford faced Leeds, now a midweek trip to Middlesbrough

& a few more

Interesting.  Good spot Arron.  Would all the away teams have travelled home then back again? That is a monster double trip for Hull if they went home in between.  Would have made much more sense to just stay down south and cruise alone the m4 on Monday to prepare for the midweek game.
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« Reply #106842 on: September 14, 2015, 06:05:19 PM »

I am not sure how Hull would stay over personally, but would be debatable about Rotherham? It surely would be silly to come back up north?
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« Reply #106843 on: September 14, 2015, 06:23:15 PM »

I am not sure how Hull would stay over personally, but would be debatable about Rotherham? It surely would be silly to come back up north?

stay in hotel in Brighton until monday then travel to Cardiff monday afternoon?  Sunday would be a rest day anyway surely?  Could be a good mini break for some team bonding if the clubs thought about it.
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« Reply #106844 on: September 14, 2015, 06:28:14 PM »

it is an interesting angle

i would be careful at championship level and above

for example i was surprised to see a fortnight ago that leicester flew on a charter from east midlands to bournemouth..took 45 mins and door to door training ground to hotel was under 2 hours

would hull etc fly to gatwick? then fly to bristol (?)

the hassle/travel factor of these successive away trips is much less than it would be for carlisle or exeter etc? i don't know, but i will raise the point anyway
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