Capello resigns

[The Baron]

The 90 wc assessment is harsh. Ireland Egypt and Holland were all very good. We topped the group iirc.

Belgium was a bad game but England were a penalty shootout from winning that tourney IMO.

[MANTIS01]

Bobby Robson's England had character and spirit. We might not have been the best in the world but we had a togetherness and a will to win that was typically English, our best attributes. All the players had strong desire and wanted to play for each other, their gaffer, and the country. In Italia '90 it was awesome to see the team having a right good go at it with the whole country united behind them. This is all that matters to me as an England fan, but it seems we have lost that identity with our foreign manager policy over the years. In '86 I thought the Argentina game was close and we prob win the comp if we win that game and obv we were ridic close to winning in '90. So feck results imo, at international level you don't need a manager to teach the cream how to play the game you need somebody to inspire the players and bring them and the country together. Redknapp is a proven motivator and is ultra passionate about his country hence why he is rightly the people's choice.

[gatso]

Argument falls apart if you include Robson. Great at qualifying - hopeless in tournaments.

he had 2 world cups. in one we lost in the quarter final and no matter how good a manager you're going to lose to maradonna scoring one with his hand and one with sheer brilliance. in the other he took us to withing a penalty shoot out of the final. hopeless may be a bit harsh

Selective memory. Robson had mediocre results in tournament finals and was lucky to get anywhere near a semi-final.

He was manager for 4 tournaments:

1984 Euros: Didn't qualify for finals.

1986 WC: Lost to Portugal, drew with Morocco, beat Poland. Beat Paraguay. Lost to Argentina. It looked for a while like they wouldn't get out of their group.

1988 Euros: Lost to Ireland, lost to Netherlands, lost to Russia. Humiliation.

1990 WC: Drew with Ireland, drew with Netherlands, beat Egypt. Beat Belgium. Beat Cameroon. Lost to Germany. Lost to Italy. Lucky to reach the semis. Belgium dominated their match and still regard their loss as the greatest travesty in WC history. Then Cameroon also nearly knocked them out until two penalties got England through, one in ET.

Total - Played 15, Won 5, Drew 3, Lost 7. Hardly an outstanding performance. Under Robson, England lost every match played against a 'good' team, apart from the draw against The Netherlands. The wins they got were against the likes of Egypt, Cameroon & Paraguay. They couldn't beat Morocco or Ireland, even losing one of the games against Ireland.

Robson offered to resign after the failures in 84 & 88 but the FA declined in order to keep Clough out - then they sacked him anyway just before the 90 WC, with effect from immed after. Reaching the semis and the very good performance there against Germany has caused people to forget his poor record until then. 

[MintTrav]

Bobby Robson's England had character and spirit. We might not have been the best in the world but we had a togetherness and a will to win that was typically English, our best attributes. All the players had strong desire and wanted to play for each other, their gaffer, and the country. In Italia '90 it was awesome to see the team having a right good go at it with the whole country united behind them.

I agree that the 86-90 players cared about playing for England and tried to give it their best shot, which I'm not sure can be said about some the players who have succeeded them.

[MintTrav]

As someone posted earlier, with Maradona in that form they were unstoppable. Oh thats right, we did stop them. So they cheated.

While we're here, why does Shilton always seem to get a free pass regarding that goal? A high ball between a 6'1" goalkeeper, who can use his hands freely and a 5'5" player, who can't, with no-one else putting pressure on either. There should only have been one outcome, but Shilton made a feeble attempt and hardly got off the ground. Admittedly, Maradonna achieved an amazing height but, even so, Shilton should have had the ball. It can be clearly seen in the photos that, desipte starting 8 inches lower, not only is Maradonna's head higher than Shilton's, but it is higher than Shilton's fist above his upstretched arm, mainly due to Shilton's feet being almost in contact with the ground. Whatever about Maradonna, that was bad goalkeeping and Shilton was just as much to blame for the goal, but no-one ever mentions that.

[mondatoo]

How come Capello got paid off when he resigned ?

[MANTIS01]

Weak single arm flap with no violent intent so poor keeping. Shilton should've clattered Maradonna for that first goal. Two-fisted double punch straight to the face with knee to stomach. And Butcher deffo should've clattered him two-footed for the second, but wanders off in the wrong direction all confused instead.

[Ironside]

Never at any time including now would the goal be office he was the last Argentinan to touch the ball before he got it back from hodge, you cant be office by passing to yourself and can't be office if the defending team makes a bad pass back

[david3103]

Weak single arm flap with no violent intent so poor keeping. Shilton should've clattered Maradonna for that first goal. Two-fisted double punch straight to the face with knee to stomach. And Butcher deffo should've clattered him two-footed for the second, but wanders off in the wrong direction all confused instead.

Peter Reid waved him past too.

Stilton dived over the ball v Poland in 1973 which effectively ended the career of Sir Alf Ramsey, whose record as England manager isn't bloated by wins v minnows like Slovenia Slovakia Lithuania etc..


For the younger members, Sir Alf Ramsey was manager in 1966, the year when England won the World Cup.

[outragous76]

OMG!

This guy is insane! - Please no! Just NO!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17510682

[TheWhisper]

Just LOL

[youthnkzR]

OMG!

This guy is insane! - Please no! Just NO!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17510682

[Rivertony]

Can anybody honestly say they would want hoddle back as England manager? I think it he would be a massive disappointment!!

[77dave]

id take him back over Woy, look at his record, he did a decent job if he had managed to keep his mouth shut his tenure would of been longer.

[mondatoo]

It won't be Hoddle, FACT.