Staking deals and markup. Discussion?

[pleno1]

Would be really cool if we had one person who arbitrated and did all the markups. So for example X wants to put Y staking thread up, he approaches Mr Z who then gives S markup.

[tikay]

Would be really cool if we had one person who arbitrated and did all the markups. So for example X wants to put Y staking thread up, he approaches Mr Z who then gives S markup.

Personally, I believe that would be perfectly horrible, to be honest.

We buy action for a variety of reasons, & I don't really think I want to be told by others what I may, or may not, buy at.

Free market forces should always be allowed to prevail, in my opinion.

[titaniumbean]

Would be really cool if we had one person who arbitrated and did all the markups. So for example X wants to put Y staking thread up, he approaches Mr Z who then gives S markup.

nut worst idea in a large pool of stupid ideas pleno. wpwp

[smashedagain]

I really like the Keys auction with people bidding openly. Although I never bought a piece it was entertaining to watch. That way the market decides what the price should be.

I also like it when someone like Trigg or Keith has the balls to price up final tables etc.

[pleno1]

I also like it when someone like Trigg or Keith has the balls to price up final tables etc.

yer this.

[GreekStein]

How can you like it?

Trigg's books are always like 4000% overround

[titaniumbean]

How can you like it?

Trigg's books are always like 4000% overround

is he meant to give us all edges? and expose himself to potentially large swongs for nothing?

[jakally]

Someone said that the stakee needs to have some of his own money invested because maybe he wouldn't care or try hard enough if not. Well perhaps that might be true for some, but certainty not for me. I'm the worlds biggest nit, and there's no way I'm giving up my chance of a 30% share of a big cash lightly. What's more, I really really want to make a return for my backers. (Sending someone money is a great feeling).

This is such a key point in terms of staking. Having monies invested with people who will always give 100%, is probably more important than getting the mark up at the right level.
Tikay is the best at having a punt with 'triers', and it's not a surprise that his ROI is pretty good.

[Simon Galloway]

I've heard a lot of smart people say things like "he doesn't have a big enough slice to care about it" and I have also seen people flick in perfectly playable stacks because they can no longer be bothered.

I'd rather back a trier than a "flair" player that gives up half way through.  If you sell on a thread such that your maximum result is 30% of any prize THEN YOUR MAX RESULT IS 30% OF ANY PRIZE!!  You shouldn't set foot in the casino if winning 30% of 1st prize isn't enough for you.  You can't get a better result than that, given you already chose to sell 70% to someone else.

Maybe I don't get it, but I would definitely never put a shilling into play knowingly with someone that cba to hang in there during a tough couple of levels.

[GreekStein]

How can you like it?

Trigg's books are always like 4000% overround

is he meant to give us all edges? and expose himself to potentially large swongs for nothing?

How can you have possibly got there from the post I made?

I didn't say he shouldn't be making money from it or having an edge - that's what bookmaking is all about. Trigg's are just redic though sometimes.

[EvilPie]

How can you like it?

Trigg's books are always like 4000% overround

is he meant to give us all edges? and expose himself to potentially large swongs for nothing?

How can you have possibly got there from the post I made?

I didn't say he shouldn't be making money from it or having an edge - that's what bookmaking is all about. Trigg's are just redic though sometimes.

If there were 10000 people putting a quid on each he'd probably make them a bit more reasonable.

As they are he takes in about £500 of bets with potential outlays ranging from 0 to several k.

I don't blame him one bit for making them swing a bit towards himself.

[smashedagain]

How can you like it?

Trigg's books are always like 4000% overround

is he meant to give us all edges? and expose himself to potentially large swongs for nothing?

How can you have possibly got there from the post I made?

I didn't say he shouldn't be making money from it or having an edge - that's what bookmaking is all about. Trigg's are just redic though sometimes.

If there were 10000 people putting a quid on each he'd probably make them a bit more reasonable.

As they are he takes in about £500 of bets with potential outlays ranging from 0 to several k.

I don't blame him one bit for making them swing a bit towards himself.

yes very much this...backing with Trigg is pretty much in the same vain as backing the 70/30 guys... potential value and roi is not the key issue. its all about the fun factor. if he can be arsed to do it then good for him if he makes a quid or two but that more than compensates for the outside chance of him getting a bit burnt for a laugh

[pleno1]

i watched an interview today from when keys gave mark trett 10/1 in the coral masters thingy.

[GreekStein]

How can you like it?

Trigg's books are always like 4000% overround

is he meant to give us all edges? and expose himself to potentially large swongs for nothing?

How can you have possibly got there from the post I made?

I didn't say he shouldn't be making money from it or having an edge - that's what bookmaking is all about. Trigg's are just redic though sometimes.

If there were 10000 people putting a quid on each he'd probably make them a bit more reasonable.

As they are he takes in about £500 of bets with potential outlays ranging from 0 to several k.

I don't blame him one bit for making them swing a bit towards himself.

yes very much this...backing with Trigg is pretty much in the same vain as backing the 70/30 guys... potential value and roi is not the key issue. its all about the fun factor. if he can be arsed to do it then good for him if he makes a quid or two but that more than compensates for the outside chance of him getting a bit burnt for a laugh

dont really agree with titty or titty but think your post is pretty good jase. agree.

also f <3 trigg and ive done pieces to him

[titaniumbean]

How can you like it?

Trigg's books are always like 4000% overround

is he meant to give us all edges? and expose himself to potentially large swongs for nothing?

How can you have possibly got there from the post I made?

I didn't say he shouldn't be making money from it or having an edge - that's what bookmaking is all about. Trigg's are just redic though sometimes.

my post is quite obviously being extreme to make the point. trigg isn't a bookies yet he's taking liabilities why woudn't he have a round up, i'm sure gamblers everywhere would love to know where the bookies is who doesn't build in a profit margin.