Issues Arising from Staking

[youthnkzR]

1. if it can be proven he has only been sent (to use your example) £75,000, then yes ofcourse the backer should only be paid his % of this otherwise the horse will be selling at a loss (or less of a markup then agreed)

2. if id backed / brought % of somebody and they took the equivelant % from my share id be furious... the tip should come only from the player unless is confirmed its ok with you.

[Longy]

I think the mistake(s) Keys has made in his official role, is showing bias in his language and leniency towards people who does and doesn't like.

I thought his posts in the railtard thread were way too kind, though none of what he stated were incorrect statements.

Whereas in regard to Guy (Outragous) he has been very scathing in his language, but Guy has really dropped the ball imo and without Keys has taken virtually no "stick" for his actions. Leaving a deal with makeup and then going to seek backing elsewhere in a very short space of time is really really bad, yet very little was said (think there was 1 or 2 posts from Amatay questioning it).

Didn't guy suggest there were reasons for cutting/stopping the original deal? or was this pm'ed to all backers as private?  Did keys have a stake in Railtard? if so its more than a little hypocritical.

One of his stakers in the original thread was Amatay who made this post http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=58067.msg1584925#msg1584925 , after the staking had finished. Unless i am missing some off forum stuff, Guy's behaviour in this situation is at best poor communication.

[pleno1]

i posted alot of stuff too, maybe on another thread though. Claypole as well, also Greekstein but Guy said he didnt want to speak about it or would get back to it.

either way its gone from me now, dont mind, gl to him but thought it was handled very poorly.

[The Camel]

We have mods for every other board, why not have a staking board mod?

Just to vet any staking requests/proposals and maybe to arbitrate if a dispute occurs.

And anyone who posts on the board agrees to abide to the decision of the mod.

It wouldn't take much time because there are very few staking requests and replies.

I would put forward the name of Simon Galloway - well respected, knows the staking process inside and out yet doesn't participate in staking on here very often.

No idea if he'd be interested, but think he'd do an excellent job.

[GreekStein]

We have mods for every other board, why not have a staking board mod?

Just to vet any staking requests/proposals and maybe to arbitrate if a dispute occurs.

And anyone who posts on the board agrees to abide to the decision of the mod.

It wouldn't take much time because there are very few staking requests and replies.

I would put forward the name of Simon Galloway - well respected, knows the staking process inside and out yet doesn't participate in staking on here very often.

No idea if he'd be interested, but think he'd do an excellent job.

Huge +1

I don't think I've ever disagreed with a Simon Galloway staking post.

[mondatoo]

Simon easily the best candidate for this if he has the time.

[Longy]

We have mods for every other board, why not have a staking board mod?

Just to vet any staking requests/proposals and maybe to arbitrate if a dispute occurs.

And anyone who posts on the board agrees to abide to the decision of the mod.

It wouldn't take much time because there are very few staking requests and replies.

I would put forward the name of Simon Galloway - well respected, knows the staking process inside and out yet doesn't participate in staking on here very often.

No idea if he'd be interested, but think he'd do an excellent job.

+1

Simon would be perfect assuming he would be willing to do it.

[TightEnd]

Why is everyone assuming there is going to be a staking board mod?

[smashedagain]

Is Guy a grimmer? I quite like him

[The Camel]

Why is everyone assuming there is going to be a staking board mod?

Not assuming at all.

Asking/hoping for one.

[Longy]

Why is everyone assuming there is going to be a staking board mod?

I don't think anyone is assuming. Camel has made a suggestion that we should have one and some of us agree.

[TightEnd]

ok, thanks


You think the "self regulating" approach where the current mods oversee the boards for flaming, but don't get involved in the stake itself is now insufficient, and that some high profile participants giving their opinions on stakes good or bad is divisive?

that's a fair summary?

[smashedagain]

So when I put up a stacking thread selling at 1.8 Simon can put people off?

[The Camel]

ok, thanks


You think the "self regulating" approach where the current mods oversee the boards for flaming, but don't get involved in the stake itself is now insufficient, and that some high profile participants giving their opinions on stakes good or bad is divisive?

that's a fair summary?

In a word yes.

Look at the recent controversies/discussions:

Bram's "buy out" clause. Mod decides if that's ok. yes or no, end of argument.

Guy making another staking thread so soon after quitting a long term stake in defiicit. Yes or no?

Was Dreenies OP acceptable? Yes or no?


Just think a mod could make all these decisions quickly and fairly. Everyone who want to take part in the staking board MUST abide with his decisions.

Seems like it would save alot of arguments/conflict.

[The Camel]

Obviously a mod should not make a decision in a thread which he has a vested interest.

That's why I thought Simon would be a good choice as he doesn't buy or sell very often.