Issues Arising from Staking

[Boba Fett]

Countless people posted sensibly along the lines of 'caveat emptor' etc. Keys wasn't appointed so he can critique staking posts from any angle he wants, just like the rest of us.

Truly ridic idea to look to appoint judges/mods to police this board specifically

Existing mods approach is plenty - ie someone does something that obviously harms the community, ban them from Blonde

A bunch of petty fascistic rulings over the minutiae within staking requests does not advance the place at all

+1.

The current system works fine. People can buy if they want to. People can try and sell however they like. Other people can criticise if they feel it's out of line. At the end of the day it's a service provided for buyers and sellers, and if they are happy doing business, it's no one else's business.

If you think a staking request is a scam, then by all means say so, but if nobody cares and buys anyway, don't try and get a mod involved.

This, if someone doesnt like an OP they can just fire in some posts and try to submarine the whole thing anyway.  It doesnt take someone being a mod to do that.

[The Camel]

There has been a number of disputes arising from staking posts recently.

I just thought having mod (s) would nip alot of these disputes/arguments in the bud.

[The Camel]

Having three would be perfect really.

You must also remember that a SINGLE Mod would get absolutely butchered in the event of a contentious decision. Not that such a thing is ever likely, obv.

It would have to be policed with an iron fist.

Mods decision final, no arguments.

If you don't agree with that, you lose posting rights on the staking board.

How will that be enforced?

What do you mean?

Surely there is an option in the software for stopping someone posting on a specific board?

So what if they post the same thing on a different board?

Didn't think you could post staking requests on other boards?

Let me demonstrate....


Hi. My name is Red Dog. Anyone want to put me in the DTD £500 @ 70/30?

As far as I understand, any staking requests outside the staking board get moved there, don't they?

And if you weren't allowed to post there, the post would be deleted?

Deleted by who though, a mod?

What if that mod were me, what if I didn't agree with the decision of the staking mod?

What if the poster continually re-posted?

The staking board mod would delete it obviously.

[The Camel]

What about the guy case? If mods judged him to be ool and owe 3k what happens then?  If its just advice on ops and deleting spam then you don't need 3 staking mods.

100% not a mods job

If it is judged a poster has broken staking board rules/protocol, do you not agree they should be banned from putting futures proposals up?

[The Camel]

Interesting that regular users of the staking forum seem more in favour of a staking board mod, while those who seem against it are either rare users or never use it all.

[pleno1]

Interesting that regular users of the staking forum seem more in favour of a staking board mod, while those who seem against it are either rare users or never use it all.

dont think thats 100% true.

[The Camel]

Interesting that regular users of the staking forum seem more in favour of a staking board mod, while those who seem against it are either rare users or never use it all.

dont think thats 100% true.

I thought you seemed in favour, Lil Dave and Cos (not a current heavy user, but has used it alot in the past). I am obviously in favour.

Whereas those putting up arguments against seem to be Nirvana, Red Dog, Bobo and Junior.

[titaniumbean]

I use the board all the time, a staking mod is not a good idea imo. The board as a whole should be modded obviously but it is up to the community to regulate the offers. If a thread is shit, it should be replied to with 'this is shit', if a thread is good value it will sell out quickly, if a thread is not good value it will sell out slowly etc etc.  (you also have to remember that blonde has a lot of threads which are not 100% about +ev backing but about helping friends etc and that is good but if someone impartial where to be a staking board mod they would if talking honestly shoot down alot of threads).


Keys has been the only one willing to critique and no one seems to be able to take anything as constructive criticism. it's not like people are requesting money to gamble why should they put any effort into providing all the relevant information 


There are a tonne of threads I open and choose not to take action for any of the following reasons,

sold out
crap player
don't know trust them
markup too high
no money invested by the player
not interested in action in the specific events etc etc


There are an absolute chunk of threads that I think are 'crap value' or worse yet I get the impression that if  I were to put that, people would just say well you didn't have to come in here at all etc etc which isn't the right attitude. I opened the Alex Martin thread and saw literally nothing posted, yet I thought mmmm want piece maybes, then I opened his hendon mob helpfully provided by someone trying to add more information to the lightweight op, saw his picture and thought fk me nut staking proposition. unfortunately for me it's sold out.

if newpostergary922783 (hopefully no one has this nick) starts a one line thread like Alex, i'd expect over a page of just abuse and pointers telling him what people expect. If people are asking for money they should take ALL the feedback.


I honestly don't get what people are thinking a staking board mod would do, what would their role be? what 'powers' would they have?

[smashedagain]

I use the board all the time, a staking mod is not a good idea imo. The board as a whole should be modded obviously but it is up to the community to regulate the offers. If a thread is shit, it should be replied to with 'this is shit', if a thread is good value it will sell out quickly, if a thread is not good value it will sell out slowly etc etc.  (you also have to remember that blonde has a lot of threads which are not 100% about +ev backing but about helping friends etc and that is good but if someone impartial where to be a staking board mod they would if talking honestly shoot down alot of threads).


Keys has been the only one willing to critique and no one seems to be able to take anything as constructive criticism. it's not like people are requesting money to gamble why should they put any effort into providing all the relevant information 


There are a tonne of threads I open and choose not to take action for any of the following reasons,

sold out
crap player
don't know trust them
markup too high
no money invested by the player
not interested in action in the specific events etc etc


There are an absolute chunk of threads that I think are 'crap value' or worse yet I get the impression that if  I were to put that, people would just say well you didn't have to come in here at all etc etc which isn't the right attitude. I opened the Alex Martin thread and saw literally nothing posted, yet I thought mmmm want piece maybes, then I opened his hendon mob helpfully provided by someone trying to add more information to the lightweight op, saw his picture and thought fk me nut staking proposition. unfortunately for me it's sold out.

if newpostergary922783 (hopefully no one has this nick) starts a one line thread like Alex, i'd expect over a page of just abuse and pointers telling him what people expect. If people are asking for money they should take ALL the feedback.


I honestly don't get what people are thinking a staking board mod would do, what would their role be? what 'powers' would they have?

At present all mods get a Stetson some chaps and a cap gun

[Junior Senior]

What about the guy case? If mods judged him to be ool and owe 3k what happens then?  If its just advice on ops and deleting spam then you don't need 3 staking mods.

100% not a mods job

If it is judged a poster has broken staking board rules/protocol, do you not agree they should be banned from putting futures proposals up?

if they break rules mods delete anyway.  mods should be not judge or jury on whether a person quitting make up or has grimmed previosuly is out of line. i am sure the self regualtion on here that exists anyway will unearth such trechery! :-)

[titaniumbean]

At present all mods get a Stetson some chaps and a cap gun

mmmm chaps

[neeko]

I am against the idea of staking mods, who in their right mind would want the job - it is just opening themselves up for flaming. On blonde a mods decision is never final it is always the start of 26 pages of blathering.

Buyers are perfectly entitled to buy stakes at terrible value, stakers can put up awful pitches, constructive ideas can help both sides to improve but let users do their own stupid things.

[The Camel]

What about the guy case? If mods judged him to be ool and owe 3k what happens then?  If its just advice on ops and deleting spam then you don't need 3 staking mods.

100% not a mods job

If it is judged a poster has broken staking board rules/protocol, do you not agree they should be banned from putting futures proposals up?

if they break rules mods delete anyway.  mods should be not judge or jury on whether a person quitting make up or has grimmed previosuly is out of line. i am sure the self regualtion on here that exists anyway will unearth such trechery! :-)

The reason I thought it would be good idea to have a specific staking board is the existing mods might not grasp all the issues involved completely.

How much staking experience does *grasping a mods name from thin air* Ginger have for example?

[titaniumbean]

Camel I don't get what role you think a 'SBMod' would have?

[Longy]

What about the guy case? If mods judged him to be ool and owe 3k what happens then?  If its just advice on ops and deleting spam then you don't need 3 staking mods.

100% not a mods job

If it is judged a poster has broken staking board rules/protocol, do you not agree they should be banned from putting futures proposals up?

if they break rules mods delete anyway.  mods should be not judge or jury on whether a person quitting make up or has grimmed previosuly is out of line. i am sure the self regualtion on here that exists anyway will unearth such trechery! :-)

The reason I thought it would be good idea to have a specific staking board is the existing mods might not grasp all the issues involved completely.

How much staking experience does *grasping a mods name from thin air* Ginger have for example?

lol.