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[rfgqqabc]

I really think the cheaper stakes u offer people the more inclined they are to take it. Think Paul Ho said that at Manchester g the 25p 25p is now there most popular game. You offer punters a cheaper chance to play think most would take it

1/2 died in Newcastle when aspers ran .5/.5 games. Unsustainable games are bad for a poker economy

[Honeybadger]

Just thinking out loud here.....

25p 50p table

Max buy in of £50.  Once someone has £125 in front of them they are requested to leave the table?

Would keep the game at a beginners level, nobody sitting deep, therefore it plays like a beginners game, and billy big stack then wants to have a dabble at 50/1

Promote it on a Thursday when it is beginners tournament night.

Just a thought.

I have no opinion on whether this idea is a good one in principle. But if it is then you'd definitely be better allowing the big stack to remain at the table, but forcing him to remove some of his stack. Much better than making him leave.

I think this is a great thread and much respect to Rob for starting it. Loads of people thinking outside the box and suggesting interesting ideas. It shows just how much the poker community, and blonde in particular, wants DTD to succeed.

[scotty77]

Think that if you are gonna down have a micro cash game route then it needs to be run on one night only and be as far removed from the next lowest game as possible, so 25p/25p with a 25 max.  If you have a 25p/50p then it will affect the 50p/1 too much.

[jgcblack]

Think that if you are gonna down have a micro cash game route then it needs to be run on one night only and be as far removed from the next lowest game as possible, so 25p/25p with a 25 max.  If you have a 25p/50p then it will affect the 50p/1 too much.

i think a £25 game one night a week for a 'limited' time period is a great idea for the beginners to have a 'go'.

Maybe two nights to really 'hit' the market.  Just rake it to death, it won't have 'pros' on it anyways.

[Mitch]

Dont think this 25p/25p is a bad idea, but if its £25 max sit down, and theyre gonna pay £4 p/h sessions they should pay cash, not off the table or everyones gonna gradually be playing £2.50 each or something.

Dont see why this couldnt be introduced on just a thursday for 'begginers night' or something, everybodys got to start somewhere.

Dont like the 'take money off' or the 'asked to leave' ideas tho, getting used to playing cash is about sometimes being deep etc, and your obviously only playing effective stacks when somebody has much less anyway. Dont want people hit n running all the tables money every 10mins.

[cambridgealex]

Dont think this 25p/25p is a bad idea, but if its £25 max sit down, and theyre gonna pay £4 p/h sessions they should pay cash, not off the table or everyones gonna gradually be playing £2.50 each or something.

Dont see why this couldnt be introduced on just a thursday for 'begginers night' or something, everybodys got to start somewhere.

Planning for a couple months down the line. Good to see mitch. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

[PeteL]

1. Rake V Session Fees AND Charge (DTD rake only) - Off topic kinda but ideal world decrease rake and increase number of games, everyones a winner. Sessions do tax nits who dont play hands which is a bonus but they slow the game down and can give people reason to leave which is not ideal.. rake probably better in long run as long as people dont think its too high.

2. Levels of games on offer (we spread 50p-£1 +) - The problem with the club it seems to me is too many small games at the moment. When Gala notts was at its peak  in my era) there would be as many as 4-6 1/2 games running. Maybe eveyone has done their money who knows but alot of people will play 50/1 when they can afford to play 1/2 just to pass time cheaper. Im talking cynically but killing 50/1 completely and running 1/2 (capped) poss 1/2 (uncapped) + could be better. SnG's could be a low stakes limited risk option for people who cant afford cash games (this is common in europe). 25p/50p is a terrible idea imo.

3. Straddles allowed/ limited (we dont allow straddles on 50-£1) - No straddles in games smaller than 5/10 could get bigger games running and also people know what they are playing before they sit down.

4. Min/Max buy-ins at start of game (varies on game) max buy ins on games smaller than 5/10 could be a good idea but can think of some lively 5/5 games that capping the buy in wouldnt help... tough but capping 1/2 is a good idea probably for recreational players. Having this all on the cash game screen so you know the rules before you play would be a good idea.

5. Max buy in when game has been running (doesnt change at DTD) keep the same.

6. Buy the button (not allowed in DTD) should be allowed

7. Run it twice (only allowed in uncapped games) only available in 5/10 plus or very big 5/5

8. Rabitt hunting (not allowed I think, erm...) do not allow slows game too much

9. Spectators in the cash game area - common sense required here, agree with earlier posts about bias for regs doesnt seem right.

10. Opening/Closing times for kicking out cash game players - balance between whats good for club(running at a loss) and whats good for players should be drawn. Dont think keeping games running late will have a detremental effect on games in the future though.

11. Complementories - food and drink DTD does free soft and hot drinks/ some food compted on £2-£5 + games) - personally think putting money saved here into cash game initiatives would be money better spent than giving people free food.

12. Rake Races, Bad beat jackpots (weve not tried them) - Rake races - bad idea .. bad beat jackpots - bad idea...  again better idea to advertise lower rake or happy hours or some initiative that will make people think they are getting value for money.

13. Barring Team Eureaka / Winning players Smiley Smiley Smiley-

14. Rake on split pots (we rake) - not a massive issue but some mixed game players really dont like it ... kinda sucks to get less out of a pot than you put in when you win.


All this being said its going to be hard to get games going in nottingham as there is not a lot of money in the poker pool going about at the moment. It would be good to get the whole Notts poker community playing in 1 place as alot of people playing in alea/gala if they all came to dusk till dawn should be better for everybody. I think the weekly tournaments are not bringing in the right sort of people to stimulate cash games, people who play 25-50 freezeouts generally are not going to want to play decent size cash games. I think starting some rebuy tournaments which could generate huge prizepools is a good idea as it could increase the catchment area of the club bringing more people in and this will have a knock on effect of boosting the cash games as people who travel will generally be bigger players. Drawing on my knowledge from nottingham in the past we used to get alot of people coming from Derby, Sheffield, Birmingham and Luton to play the nightly tournaments because they were the best prizepools on offer in the week. I know this is alot more difficult now because of competition in neighbouring cities but i find myself now wanting to travel to these places myself to get action so if i want to do it why not others coming to you?....  Maybe all i said is nonsense ive had afew beers so whatever lol

[smashedagain]

There was cake all over the place in Dtd tonight. Too frightened to help myself but it looked good. What was the cake all about?

[Derbylad]

I think the weekly tournaments are not bringing in the right sort of people to stimulate cash games, people who play 25-50 freezeouts generally are not going to want to play decent size cash games. I think starting some rebuy tournaments which could generate huge prizepools is a good idea as it could increase the catchment area of the club bringing more people in and this will have a knock on effect of boosting the cash games as people who travel will generally be bigger players.

This...

[jakally]

There was cake all over the place in Dtd tonight. Too frightened to help myself but it looked good. What was the cake all about?

Looked like you'd had plenty of cake to me.

[smashedagain]

There was cake all over the place in Dtd tonight. Too frightened to help myself but it looked good. What was the cake all about?

Looked like you'd had plenty of cake to me.

i have had a couple of pieces in my time. Have you been smashed by a pair of Queens lately?

[kinboshi]

There was cake all over the place in Dtd tonight. Too frightened to help myself but it looked good. What was the cake all about?

Looked like you'd had plenty of cake to me.

i have had a couple of pieces in my time. Have you been smashed by a pair of Queens lately?

Typical night out in Belper...

[jakally]

There was cake all over the place in Dtd tonight. Too frightened to help myself but it looked good. What was the cake all about?

Looked like you'd had plenty of cake to me.

i have had a couple of pieces in my time. Have you been smashed by a pair of Queens lately?

Typical night out in Belper...

Any port in a storm...

[SuuPRlim]

I actually think Pete's post is pretty damn good. The re-buy tourneys in an evening are a defo great idea, I remember in Leeds when the £20rebuys would run (sick value, terrible structures etc) you'd get the perfect kind of crowd down to fire up a juicy cash game, people who like gambling basically.

[Tal]

I actually think Pete's post is pretty damn good. The re-buy tourneys in an evening are a defo great idea, I remember in Leeds when the £20rebuys would run (sick value, terrible structures etc) you'd get the perfect kind of crowd down to fire up a juicy cash game, people who like gambling basically.

There used to be a £20 rebuy at the Broadway in Birmingham on a Friday night that made as much as 15k. It was insane.

They've gone out of fashion though; people (myself included) like know how much they're spending.