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« Reply #570 on: July 30, 2014, 05:44:02 PM »

Following Neil's bets but had 4points each way on magique based on his write up


+1, tho don't think he'd have said to go ew on that race*

15 runners first 3 places.

*I def get the problem when it's 33's, you want to do it to place just in case, trying to learn myself that in such cases win only is the best value play.

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I backed the win smaller than the place part due to the price.  I feel churny inside backing 40/1 shots as decent win bets on a horse.

But all good in the end. 
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« Reply #571 on: July 31, 2014, 08:39:38 AM »


In the "we learn something every day" Dept, as a recreational fun punter, I doubt I'd ever have noticed this trait if it had not been in Lord G's write up yesterday. 

I'm sure BE won't mind me copying this, as it is well after the embargo time.


Self-certification is something that punters hate. If trainers had to take their sick horses to the races to show them to a BHA vet, prove they were ill and then drive them home that would be silly, so trainers are allowed to get their own vet to write a certificate if they want to pull their horse out. That means their friendly guy who they give their business to all the time will write whatever they want.

In races like this 5.25 you get to decide that you don't fancy being drawn high and you can either argue that the going is unsuitable or get your vet to say your horse didn't fancy his breakfast. That means we have lost the ones drawn 13,14,16 and 18 in this race where low numbers have an advantage


In other shock news, he probably also said that Seamus is a clown.
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« Reply #572 on: July 31, 2014, 10:35:28 AM »


In the "we learn something every day" Dept, as a recreational fun punter, I doubt I'd ever have noticed this trait if it had not been in Lord G's write up yesterday. 

I'm sure BE won't mind me copying this, as it is well after the embargo time.


Self-certification is something that punters hate. If trainers had to take their sick horses to the races to show them to a BHA vet, prove they were ill and then drive them home that would be silly, so trainers are allowed to get their own vet to write a certificate if they want to pull their horse out. That means their friendly guy who they give their business to all the time will write whatever they want.

In races like this 5.25 you get to decide that you don't fancy being drawn high and you can either argue that the going is unsuitable or get your vet to say your horse didn't fancy his breakfast. That means we have lost the ones drawn 13,14,16 and 18 in this race where low numbers have an advantage


In other shock news, he probably also said that Seamus is a clown.

I should put this in the moaning thread but there should be a change in the rules imo so that you get the terms ou place the bet at.  The books have time to restructure the markets.   I mean we don't get the opportunity to void our bet if the terms change which no doubt given what Neil said yesterday about this particular race many would have wanted to do. 
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« Reply #573 on: July 31, 2014, 10:50:49 AM »


In the "we learn something every day" Dept, as a recreational fun punter, I doubt I'd ever have noticed this trait if it had not been in Lord G's write up yesterday. 

I'm sure BE won't mind me copying this, as it is well after the embargo time.


Self-certification is something that punters hate. If trainers had to take their sick horses to the races to show them to a BHA vet, prove they were ill and then drive them home that would be silly, so trainers are allowed to get their own vet to write a certificate if they want to pull their horse out. That means their friendly guy who they give their business to all the time will write whatever they want.

In races like this 5.25 you get to decide that you don't fancy being drawn high and you can either argue that the going is unsuitable or get your vet to say your horse didn't fancy his breakfast. That means we have lost the ones drawn 13,14,16 and 18 in this race where low numbers have an advantage


In other shock news, he probably also said that Seamus is a clown.

I was aware they did this but am not sure why they do it.  It is a handicap, so running down the field isn't going to do them any harm in the long run?  Or do they prefer to choose when their horse has a bad race and Goodwood wasn't in the plan?  Presumably if they didn't come to Goodwood, they were going to have a gallop somewhere?

I guess some must come a long way and it saves on travel costs, but assume entry fees are lost regardless?

Anyone any idea?

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« Reply #574 on: July 31, 2014, 10:56:21 AM »

I have always been of the impression the big 4 bookmakers pay certain trainers to take horses out of these races wherever possible.
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« Reply #575 on: July 31, 2014, 11:15:20 AM »


Sorry to disagree with the herd, but there isn't really a huge draw bias

The pic below is 7f handicaps more than 13 runners.

I think the high numbers get a bit back by being able to be settled and getting a clear run.

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« Reply #576 on: July 31, 2014, 12:21:40 PM »

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« Reply #577 on: July 31, 2014, 12:47:28 PM »

Are any firms pricing up whether all the tips come out before noon as suggested ?

Ill take the no please Smiley

Tongue firmly in cheek with this post btw, very much enjoying reading the information and certainly been unlucky so far this week
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« Reply #578 on: July 31, 2014, 01:52:22 PM »

Good luck us today. Prices shot down a lot quicker today than past two, was noticeably harder to get on today with a few races. Anyway let's go
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« Reply #579 on: July 31, 2014, 02:17:22 PM »

Good luck us today. Prices shot down a lot quicker today than past two, was noticeably harder to get on today with a few races. Anyway let's go

True, I assume the tips are leaking out or somebody is betting chunks. 
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« Reply #580 on: July 31, 2014, 03:14:15 PM »

how many packages have been bought? Ive no idea if its 50 or 500 tbh
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« Reply #581 on: July 31, 2014, 03:37:48 PM »

By a bloody gnats knacker  Cry
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« Reply #582 on: July 31, 2014, 03:38:13 PM »

omg that sucked
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« Reply #583 on: July 31, 2014, 03:38:57 PM »

omg that sucked

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« Reply #584 on: July 31, 2014, 03:40:40 PM »

How did he even get back in contention - let alone nearly get up?
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