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« Reply #120 on: March 14, 2014, 04:51:30 PM »


Agreed.

That does not mean we should ignore the lesser problems though. We should look at everything, positively & critically. Why would we not?

It's a question of resource management. Why deal with sharkscope which has some unknown net effect until you've dealt with chat abuse which has a clear negative effect.
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« Reply #121 on: March 14, 2014, 04:51:55 PM »

Titbean's way of expressing himself might well be tilting and make himself look a bit of a ***** but he's a single human person and entitled to do what he likes.

Sky's media/community team are straight up punters though. Absolutely shocking approach to community and customer service. They are acting like companies did in the bad old days. I'd be fucking embarrassed if I ran their forums.  The behaviour their in moderating issues is absolutely petulant and defensive and just not how the internet works.

Titbean has a poiint regardless of how he chooses to express it.


fwiw I was polite for the first roughly 4 years, I just quickly lost respect for them for how they treat myself and other customers.
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« Reply #122 on: March 14, 2014, 04:55:18 PM »


fwiw I was polite for the first roughly 4 years, I just quickly lost respect for them for how they treat myself and other customers.

Might have taken you 4 years. Took me about 4 minutes when I found out they decided to just delete (not lock...) threads which contained criticism. Absolute punters.
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« Reply #123 on: March 14, 2014, 04:57:40 PM »


fwiw I was polite for the first roughly 4 years, I just quickly lost respect for them for how they treat myself and other customers.

Might have taken you 4 years. Took me about 4 minutes when I found out they decided to just delete (not lock...) threads which contained criticism. Absolute punters.


I could post some pictures of the software when I first played there, people think the current software is bad, they JUST DONT KNOW.


once you've answered hundreds of technical query threads fixing customers problems for a company you don't work for then essentially being told to F off and that i'm out of line. i'm pretty sure i'm allowed to be much ruder than I actually am to them.
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« Reply #124 on: March 14, 2014, 05:02:08 PM »


fwiw I was polite for the first roughly 4 years, I just quickly lost respect for them for how they treat myself and other customers.

Might have taken you 4 years. Took me about 4 minutes when I found out they decided to just delete (not lock...) threads which contained criticism. Absolute punters.


I could post some pictures of the software when I first played there, people think the current software is bad, they JUST DONT KNOW.


once you've answered hundreds of technical query threads fixing customers problems for a company you don't work for then essentially being told to F off and that i'm out of line. i'm pretty sure i'm allowed to be much ruder than I actually am to them.

do still play on there ?

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« Reply #125 on: March 14, 2014, 05:05:12 PM »

Too many people trying to sell cars ITT, not enough that sell aeroplanes.  But as Pleno says only lazy people learn about aeroplanes.

Tighty is right on the chat abuse, and I genuinely believe Sky has it worse than any other site I play on.  I think a lot of that is down to demographics.  Very experienced players and newbies don't usually get involved.  It is those in that phase where they think they know it all.  Sure most of us went through that phase too.


+1 quintillion

I get called a 'cu*t' multiple times a session, maybe a valid name calling but it's meant to be propa nawty yet no one ever loses their chat.

However you can lose your chat for essentially pointing out the sites flaws and doing your utmost to improve it.

Massive +1. The chat boxes on Sky are the nut worst. When the new software came out, I was like "Yay, I can chat to the recreational players while grinding, this is fun for me and good for the game". Now as soon as someone chats, I usually end up turning chat off because 99% of the time, it's not worth reading (Fortunately I got banned before that inane forum ban = chat ban rule happened).

There's a DYM reg who I've reported to Sharkscope and Sky on multiple occasions for using Sharkscope to berate weaker players in chat. Last time I played him he was still being a **** able to chat to people, and still using Sharkscope to berate players, so obv nobody did a thing rofl. There's also that OAP wannabe gangsta reg who has been on the site for YEARS abusing people in chat, offering to meet people at SPTs for fights, and even tried to fight a woman at an SPT, who still had chat and forum privileges last time I played him.

Same thing applies to multi-accounting bans. There's been people who have posted on the forum saying "I'm also using account X" who didn't get banned. There's also a DYM reg who I've personally reported before, telling me in chat that he's got another account, which was also a high stakes DYM reg that no longer plays.

Obv no bans. HOW?! I don't even bother reporting it any more, because there's no point when I'll get spoken to condescendingly by Customer DontCare and nothing will happen anyway.


I used the word idiot, in response to someone asking why I seemed peeved. IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE therefore I lose all table chat/forum privileges on the same site where i'm constantly called a ***** but their superior security department cant even auto scan the chat windows lolz.

Most ridiculous rule ever. Someone tilts in chat and gets banned (Ofc this doesn't actually happen irl because nobody cares, but lets assume someone actually gets banned for chat abuse on Sky). There's a HUGE difference between someone tilting in chat after losing a big pot, and someone being an arse over a prolonged period on the forum and doing something ban worthy.

Conversely, someone can do something which breaks forum rules, such as spamming Poker Chat with bad beat posts which belong in BBV. That doesn't mean they deserve a chat ban too. There's just no reason for such a dumb rule to exist, you can always ban someone from both if necessary anyway.


they banned you, so you hold a grudge?

Beaneh has done more for Sky Poker for absolutely nothing then a lot of the people on Sky's payroll. He has a pretty damn good reason to hold a grudge, IMO.


Titbean's way of expressing himself might well be tilting and make himself look a bit of a ***** but he's a single human person and entitled to do what he likes.

Sky's media/community team are straight up punters though. Absolutely shocking approach to community and customer service. They are acting like companies did in the bad old days. I'd be fucking embarrassed if I ran their forums.  The behaviour their in moderating issues is absolutely petulant and defensive and just not how the internet works.

Titbean has a poiint regardless of how he chooses to express it.


Couldn't agree more. The "Sky_Poker" account needs to be ditched, and Sky need to have individual accounts for mods. That way, individual mods can be held accountable for their actions. I've been saying that since the day that account was created.

Treat a customer like shit on the "Sky_Poker" account - Meh, no big deal, happens all the time atm from what I've seen and heard. Treat a customer like shit on your own mod account - GG Job.

Again, the best mod by far on there by a million miles is TommyD, and again, he's doing a better job for £0.00 than the Sky community staff are doing for more money than they deserve.
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« Reply #126 on: March 14, 2014, 05:05:54 PM »


fwiw I was polite for the first roughly 4 years, I just quickly lost respect for them for how they treat myself and other customers.

Might have taken you 4 years. Took me about 4 minutes when I found out they decided to just delete (not lock...) threads which contained criticism. Absolute punters.


I could post some pictures of the software when I first played there, people think the current software is bad, they JUST DONT KNOW.


once you've answered hundreds of technical query threads fixing customers problems for a company you don't work for then essentially being told to F off and that i'm out of line. i'm pretty sure i'm allowed to be much ruder than I actually am to them.

do still play on there ?




there are no games the bulk of the time now.

rake races, incompetence, terrible short sighted decision after terrible short sighted decision have destroyed the games. if there is a nl50 or nl100 game running in the day ITS MAD BUSY YO.  v frustrating as I finally got tournament structures to not be a complete joke, and finally got the software to be vaguely useable.
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« Reply #127 on: March 14, 2014, 05:06:58 PM »

Fwiw I don't think that sky being punters when it comes to communication and community precludes them from wanting to improve the games.

I just think that you might consider their thoughts with a certain perspective as if they wanted to really improve their games they could start by fixing internal issues which they have 100% control over.
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« Reply #128 on: March 14, 2014, 05:11:12 PM »

Fwiw I don't think that sky being punters when it comes to communication and community precludes them from wanting to improve the games.

I just think that you might consider their thoughts with a certain perspective as if they wanted to really improve their games they could start by fixing internal issues which they have 100% control over.


Im one of the few people who provide advice specifically based as if I was a business wanting a bottom line and to have a plan for the future whatever that may hold.

Regs on sky just post things that are stupid, benefit literally 1 or 2 regs on the site that's it, then complain that my ideas which would benefit the community are 'selfish'.  They aren't even intelligent enough to realise that things that benefit them a little benefit me alot. I got in hot water previously for calling out these regs as selfish even though they have 14 posts on the forum all of which are ridiculous demands for themselves, whilst I had thousands the high marjority of which provided excellent unbiased help for free.
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« Reply #129 on: March 14, 2014, 05:18:10 PM »

Fwiw I don't think that sky being punters when it comes to communication and community precludes them from wanting to improve the games.

I just think that you might consider their thoughts with a certain perspective as if they wanted to really improve their games they could start by fixing internal issues which they have 100% control over.


Im one of the few people who provide advice specifically based as if I was a business wanting a bottom line and to have a plan for the future whatever that may hold.

Regs on sky just post things that are stupid, benefit literally 1 or 2 regs on the site that's it, then complain that my ideas which would benefit the community are 'selfish'.  They aren't even intelligent enough to realise that things that benefit them a little benefit me alot. I got in hot water previously for calling out these regs as selfish even though they have 14 posts on the forum all of which are ridiculous demands for themselves, whilst I had thousands the high marjority of which provided excellent unbiased help for free.

Invoice them for your time, £50 an hour seems fair
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« Reply #130 on: March 14, 2014, 05:19:18 PM »

Fwiw I don't think that sky being punters when it comes to communication and community precludes them from wanting to improve the games.

I just think that you might consider their thoughts with a certain perspective as if they wanted to really improve their games they could start by fixing internal issues which they have 100% control over.


Im one of the few people who provide advice specifically based as if I was a business wanting a bottom line and to have a plan for the future whatever that may hold.

Regs on sky just post things that are stupid, benefit literally 1 or 2 regs on the site that's it, then complain that my ideas which would benefit the community are 'selfish'.  They aren't even intelligent enough to realise that things that benefit them a little benefit me alot. I got in hot water previously for calling out these regs as selfish even though they have 14 posts on the forum all of which are ridiculous demands for themselves, whilst I had thousands the high marjority of which provided excellent unbiased help for free.

Invoice them, £50 an hour seems fair


They wouldn't let me do it for free, million they'd pay.
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« Reply #131 on: March 14, 2014, 05:31:31 PM »

Ill set the line at 19 pages.

We haven't had demonics repost yet!

Fwiw I'm not allowed to play from budapest on a VPN even though I heard all the regs played regularly in Vegas last year and many continue to play throughout non uk ips but my only real experience is the UKPCwhere everything was ran to perfection and especially Tikay did a fantastic job. I hope this doesn't necessarily turn into a super anti sky thread, although I guess it has but from the outside at least speaking to Tikay at ukpc he was pretty switched on but understood the limitations of a non poker background team.

Saying that all the sites that have been ran by poker players have failed big time and the biggest and most successful, stars is mainly non poker players fr, what I can see and pokerstrategy who were also and still are one of the biggest and most successful is 95% non poker background employees.

Main thing is to understand that sky will always have problems because of their staff but they will do plenty good things too such as ukpc. I think sky ascially needs 3 tikays, probably 2 younger guys, even apprentices who want to work I'm gaming and an internship would be a really mutually beneficial agreement where they could help sky a lot from the grinder pov.

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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #132 on: March 14, 2014, 05:33:49 PM »

Dtd are perfect actually. Lots of poker background and then really good non poker people such as nicola and Alex making a really good team.
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #133 on: March 14, 2014, 05:39:40 PM »

provided excellent unbiased help for free.

Dear Soapytitwank,

You claim your advice & help was excellent. Could you rate how excellent it was do you think. I mean, was it most excellent ?
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« Reply #134 on: March 14, 2014, 05:42:08 PM »

provided excellent unbiased help for free.

Dear Soapytitwank,

You claim your advice & help was excellent. Could you rate how excellent it was do you think. I mean, was it most excellent ?

totally dude xxx
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