2014-15 NFL Discussion thread

[Tal]

Ray Rice reinstated.

Form an orderly queue.

[Ironside]

who?

[Tal]

who?

The Colts' new running back. Possibly.

[Ironside]

who?

The Colts' new running back. Possibly.

he better not be i have boom herron

[Ironside]

i picked him up just incase

[The Camel]

Isn't Evens Cincy to win the AFC North just the best bet ever?

[TightEnd]

Isn't Evens Cincy to win the AFC North just the best bet ever?

You are probably right

Have to play Pittsburgh twice. If they at least split those 1-1 then Pitt unlikely to catch them

Obviously if they lose both then Pitt overtake them and have the tiebreaker, but do we think Cincy will lose both? I don't

Browns are dicking around at QB (which i don't understand. Hoyer got them to 7-4, Manziel can't help them make the play offs this year)

The Ravens have to go the the Dolphins and the Texans and yesterday's loss was a big one for their season

[tikay]

Ray Rice reinstated.

Form an orderly queue.

Crikey.

[The Camel]

Ray Rice reinstated.

Form an orderly queue.

Crikey.

While this is an extremely disturbing video, doesn't it put in perspective the calls for Ched Evans to be allowed to play football?

Rape is infinitely more serious crime than assualt, yet people are willing "to give him a second chance".

Do people need to see a video of Evans crime before deciding it is not appropriate to see him return?

[the sicilian]

I think the point of living in a civilised society is not only to punish but rehabilitate... we all agree to abide by our lands law...Evans has served his punishment as decreed by our laws whether we agree with it or not..think it wasn't long enough etc etc... is irrelevant..the law is there to decide and we have agreed to abide by it..if we are to continue to vilify him for his crime then we may as well keep him locked up and never let him out... to deny a person the opportunity to continue to earn a living in their chosen profession is draconian and unfair...if he was a plumber are you saying he couldn't mend pipes ? of course not..but because he happens to be a footballer his held extra accountable because his seen as a role model.. sorry are you saying there are people out there that look up to Ched Evans and think...' his alright that Ched think ill do a bit of raping meself cos he did it '

if we are not going to give people a chance or pick and choose on the basis of what they do we may as well revert to sticking them in the town square and throwing rocks at them..

As for Rice... in a way his crime is almost as heinous as he has or been brought up with the mentality that its perfectly OK to assault a woman in such a way as  almost a way of life...tbh she does herself little favour by pretty much saying its ok for her old man to knock her sparko... Jay Z managed to deal with a similar incident without resorting to chinning her into unconsciousness

[Tal]

As an arguably less controversial aside, how do people think the Michael Vick situation was handled?

[tikay]

Ray Rice reinstated.

Form an orderly queue.

Crikey.

While this is an extremely disturbing video, doesn't it put in perspective the calls for Ched Evans to be allowed to play football?
Rape is infinitely more serious crime than assualt, yet people are willing "to give him a second chance".

Do people need to see a video of Evans crime before deciding it is not appropriate to see him return?

There are certainly parallels between the 2 cases with one crucial difference - Rice was released by his Club, & so the Ravens are not in such a diffucult spot as Sheff U seem to be. 

[The Camel]

Ray Rice reinstated.

Form an orderly queue.

Crikey.

While this is an extremely disturbing video, doesn't it put in perspective the calls for Ched Evans to be allowed to play football?
Rape is infinitely more serious crime than assualt, yet people are willing "to give him a second chance".

Do people need to see a video of Evans crime before deciding it is not appropriate to see him return?

There are certainly parallels between the 2 cases with one crucial difference - Rice was released by his Club, & so the Ravens are not in such a diffucult spot as Sheff U seem to be. 

I beleieve Evans had his contract cancelled as soon as he was found guilty.

[arbboy]

The only thing that surprises me in these cases is that people are surprised these things happen with brain dead athletes who have spent their whole life being told how great they are by friends/family/clubs/colleges/agents/sponsors (the vast majority who only care for their own selfish needs) and become used to the whole sense of being able to walk on water and do whatever they want.  Add huge amounts of money into the mix when they turn pro at a young age with no previous experience of dealing with money and a poor level of upbringing/education in a lot of cases and it's surprising it doesn't happen more often imo.

[arbboy]

Isn't Evens Cincy to win the AFC North just the best bet ever?

I was looking at this as well.  Only thing which puts me off as well as playing pitt home and away they have to go to cleveland on the road and play Denver at home.  Not the easiest of run ins.  Pitt must be around the 7/2 mark to beat Cincy twice (which is pretty much their Division price)  Balt lost twice to Cincy and got poor divisional record for the tiebreaker.  albeit the breaker shouldn't be an issue as much in this division with the tied game for Cincy.