The TEMPORARY Nuts - First Hand.......

[elblondie]

it's the old is the glass half full or is it half empty.
I could have an accident on the motorway tonight driving to Glasgow but I think it is unlikely because most of the time I dont. (even though I am blind)

[ariston]

If your blind I reraise

[totalise]

Quite compelling reasons for both the fold and the call. In my opinion its a question of utility. What is your aim of playing in the tourney?

If you are in the wsop for the first time, and the primary objctive is just to soak in the experience, play with the professionals, and generally experience the wsop fully, then the correct decision is most likely a fold.

If your goal is to maximize your EV, then its a really clear call.

Its similiar to the canonical "would you fold AA first hand" question, and the same principle applies.


So the answer isn't a yes or a no, the answer is to ask yourself  "what is my goal in the wsop", and through deriving that goal, you derive the correct answer to this question... because contrary to popular belief, not everyone plays poker with the sole objective of making money or maximizing their EV

[tikay]

Excellent Post by Totalise, I don't play poker purely to win, it's something I enjoy imrnensely, & I want to be at the table as long as I can, which is maybe my biggest weakness as a player, but not necessarily as a person. But I think I'd call.

Great, & very thorugh, response by Monty, who came up with angles that nobody else had mentioned. I think he may have a future in the game.

[NoflopsHomer]

Quite compelling reasons for both the fold and the call. In my opinion its a question of utility. What is your aim of playing in the tourney?

If you are in the wsop for the first time, and the primary objctive is just to soak in the experience, play with the professionals, and generally experience the wsop fully, then the correct decision is most likely a fold.

If your goal is to maximize your EV, then its a really clear call.

Its similiar to the canonical "would you fold AA first hand" question, and the same principle applies.


So the answer isn't a yes or a no, the answer is to ask yourself  "what is my goal in the wsop", and through deriving that goal, you derive the correct answer to this question... because contrary to popular belief, not everyone plays poker with the sole objective of making money or maximizing their EV

But surely a call and winning would enable you to maximise your chances of soaking up the atmosphere and enjoying the event for longer. (As JungleCat said earlier)

[tikay]

Quite compelling reasons for both the fold and the call. In my opinion its a question of utility. What is your aim of playing in the tourney?

If you are in the wsop for the first time, and the primary objctive is just to soak in the experience, play with the professionals, and generally experience the wsop fully, then the correct decision is most likely a fold.

If your goal is to maximize your EV, then its a really clear call.

Its similiar to the canonical "would you fold AA first hand" question, and the same principle applies.


So the answer isn't a yes or a no, the answer is to ask yourself  "what is my goal in the wsop", and through deriving that goal, you derive the correct answer to this question... because contrary to popular belief, not everyone plays poker with the sole objective of making money or maximizing their EV

But surely a call and winning would enable you to maximise your chances of soaking up the atmosphere and enjoying the event for longer. (As JungleCat said earlier)

Correct. And a loss would mean the greatest experience of my Poker Life, which I'd looked forward to for months, & would probably never be able to  play again, would be over after 1 hand.

But on balance, I think I'd call - if my nerve did not fail me!

[Newmanseye]

After reading this thread through Tikay, I realised that you should have passed.

I mean at your age the long term EV might not come to fruition over the LOOOONNNNGGG haul, you have to take the wins when you get them and gamble less.

Surely you are due for the free bus pass off the government soon?

[tikay]

After reading this thread through Tikay, I realised that you should have passed.

I mean at your age the long term EV might not come to fruition over the LOOOONNNNGGG haul, you have to take the wins when you get them and gamble less.

Surely you are due for the free bus pass off the government soon?

Yup, Bus Pass due in 18 years.

But to be serious, more & more I do think "this may be my last year". Not in a sad or morbid way, but it is what it is, & has to be faced. So I live for today, & on that basis, I guess I ought to call. I get blinded away a lot in poker, but it won't happen in life, I'm going out foot to the floor!!

[Newmanseye]

Sorry about the joke I feel like a proper git nowv   , I had no idea this was going to be your last year mate.  The call was the right one regardless, If you dont get your money in with the Nuts then you should not sit down at the table.

I look forward to seeing you at Blonde Bash 2 

[tikay]

Sorry about the joke I feel like a proper git nowv   , I had no idea this was going to be your last year mate.  The call was the right one regardless, If you dont get your money in with the Nuts then you should not sit down at the table.

I look forward to seeing you at Blonde Bash 2 

Not at all , I think we had a "whoosh" there. My (badly made) point is that I am 47, going on 50, & we don't live for ever. But I am hoping I have a year or two yet, you don't get rid of me THAT easy!

[Newmanseye]

Sorry about the joke I feel like a proper git nowv   , I had no idea this was going to be your last year mate.  The call was the right one regardless, If you dont get your money in with the Nuts then you should not sit down at the table.

I look forward to seeing you at Blonde Bash 2 

Not at all , I think we had a "whoosh" there. My (badly made) point is that I am 47, going on 50, & we don't live for ever. But I am hoping I have a year or two yet, you don't get rid of me THAT easy!

Yep  a whoosh for sure   

Well at least I have another year or so to relieve you of youyr bankroll.

[tikay]

Thought you were a Scot? You have NO chance my friend! They can't play up there. Stick to cheating in quizzes would be my advice.

See you at the next Bash!

[Newmanseye]

Thought you were a Scot? You have NO chance my friend! They can't play up there. Stick to cheating in quizzes would be my advice.

See you at the next Bash!

Who mentioned playing, I am talking about mugging!!

[tikay]

Oops. 1-1 in the Whoosh Stakes.

[bundle]

Well I would just like to Thank the Pro's for popping in and giving us their view on it...I think it always makes a big difference to see what they would, or might do...Thank you.

Only on Blonde do you get this kind of thing..Fantastic