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Question: If you are dealt KK first hand at the WSOP ME and someone in middle position moves all-in for 10k with blinds at 25/50, would you call or fold?
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« Reply #75 on: June 20, 2008, 12:51:42 PM »

I'm folding the KK first had vs 1.

All those people who said they would call answered their own question when they said "why would anyone with aces push in that position".  The only hand I'm pushing pre with that early is Aces.

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« Reply #76 on: June 20, 2008, 01:36:07 PM »

I didn't realise this thread existed when I posted one about the same situation here.

Majority were in favour of the call with that one.  I still think it's a fold.

I also think the shove with AA is a good play.
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« Reply #77 on: June 20, 2008, 02:14:23 PM »

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The AA debate has been discussed to death already btw

And only bad players fold!
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« Reply #78 on: June 20, 2008, 02:25:31 PM »

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The AA debate has been discussed to death already btw

And only bad players fold!

agreed...who in the world folds AA pre-flop here..I can't even believe it's a discussion.
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« Reply #79 on: June 20, 2008, 05:08:08 PM »

So when you buy into the WSOP and pay your $10,000 - the cage says to you :

"Would you like to risk your 10k starting stack against having a 60k starting stack? All you have to do is guess heads/tails and be right on 2 out of 3 attempts. If you do not guess correctly, I keep your $10k and you do not play at all"

You say "Yes" without thinking?!?!?


How about 6 all ins infront of you and you have 56 suited - do you snap call?
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« Reply #80 on: June 20, 2008, 06:29:37 PM »

So when you buy into the WSOP and pay your $10,000 - the cage says to you :

"Would you like to risk your 10k starting stack against having a 60k starting stack? All you have to do is guess heads/tails and be right on 2 out of 3 attempts. If you do not guess correctly, I keep your $10k and you do not play at all"

You say "Yes" without thinking?!?!?



How about 6 all ins infront of you and you have 56 suited - do you snap call?

Damn straight I do.
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« Reply #81 on: June 20, 2008, 10:02:30 PM »

Do people think they can go through the main event folding to the money and winning the tourney without showing a hand!

Anyone who would fold KK vs 1 oppo in the first hand is insane, and shouldn't be playing the tournament.
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« Reply #82 on: June 20, 2008, 10:21:19 PM »

Do people think they can go through the main event folding to the money and winning the tourney without showing a hand!

Anyone who would fold KK vs 1 oppo in the first hand is insane, and shouldn't be playing the tournament.

On my first table in the '04 CPC John Kabbaj was in a similar predicament. First hand he held KK timed the clock then called, matey had AA.
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« Reply #83 on: June 20, 2008, 10:22:59 PM »

Think it was John, please forgive me if it wasnt, long time ago.
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« Reply #84 on: June 20, 2008, 10:34:07 PM »

Do people think they can go through the main event folding to the money and winning the tourney without showing a hand!

Anyone who would fold KK vs 1 oppo in the first hand is insane, and shouldn't be playing the tournament.

On my first table in the '04 CPC John Kabbaj was in a similar predicament. First hand he held KK timed the clock then called, matey had AA.

He probably just accepted he ran bad and went to play the next tournament.
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« Reply #85 on: June 20, 2008, 10:37:16 PM »

Possibly, but that was the ME not that many after I'm afraid.
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« Reply #86 on: June 21, 2008, 08:44:23 AM »

If there's been no action and all in i'm not sure i can fold here although id spew when i called and he showes aces.Expect for dingdells post about her all in play which i accept for her reasoning imo anyone who makes this type of play i.e pushing all in for 20+bb in early levels is blatantly just a donk it is one of the worst plays in poker imo.I'm going to vote call as i believe that is the correct play however if i was in the situation i believe i wouldnt have it in me to make the call and would probably bottle it

I like this thought about it being a donk play.

If you truely believe this, then why would you call and give the donk a chance to get lucky?

Wouldnt it be better to outplay him ?

As for me, Im folding.

Also with the AA scenario  (7 all ins) - im defo folding that one.


lolz at imaginary 300% edge on the field

Where do you get 300% edge on the field?

The AA debate has been discussed to death already btw

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« Reply #87 on: June 21, 2008, 09:13:14 AM »

Yeah I spose if you come over I would have a 300% edge Wink
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« Reply #88 on: June 21, 2008, 01:16:50 PM »

"Would you like to risk your 10k starting stack against having a 60k starting stack? All you have to do is guess heads/tails and be right on 2 out of 3 attempts. If you do not guess correctly, I keep your $10k and you do not play at all"

You say "Yes" without thinking?!?!?


Obv, only a complete donkey wouldn't take that deal!!!
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« Reply #89 on: June 21, 2008, 03:33:02 PM »

"Would you like to risk your 10k starting stack against having a 60k starting stack? All you have to do is guess heads/tails and be right on 2 out of 3 attempts. If you do not guess correctly, I keep your $10k and you do not play at all"

You say "Yes" without thinking?!?!?


Obv, only a complete donkey wouldn't take that deal!!!

If I could have that deal and that chance a 100 times then it's a no brainer and I'd have to take it.

Even if I could have that deal and that chance 20 to 30 times, it would be worth a risk.

If I could have 9 or 10 times it might be worth a risk.

But if I ever get the chance I'm only likely to enter a $10k tournament 2 or 3 times in my life - the odds don't look so good - how low must your faith in your post flop playing ability be to take such a risk?
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