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"Germanwings" A320 crashes in France
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Re: "Germanwings" A320 crashes in France
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Watching it on sky news now, very sad.
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Very sad as with all plane crashes.
I currently fly with Lufthansa about 6 times a month on an A320. Next flight on Thursday. Gulp!
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Re: "Germanwings" A320 crashes in France
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Quote from: bobAlike on March 24, 2015, 06:10:38 PM
Very sad as with all plane crashes.
I currently fly with Lufthansa about 6 times a month on an A320. Next flight on Thursday. Gulp!
A320 flight for me on Thursday too
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Re: "Germanwings" A320 crashes in France
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Crash pilot 'locked out of cockpit'.
Bloody Hell. That must have been a scary 8 minutes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32062278
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Makes it almost certain suicide I guess. Very sad.
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Quote from: Royal Flush on March 26, 2015, 10:10:42 AM
Makes it almost certain suicide I guess. Very sad.
Or the guy in the cockpit became incapacitated for some reason, maybe?
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If it does turn out to be suicide, is this better or worse for the industry than mechanical failure as a cause?
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Quote from: The Camel on March 26, 2015, 10:33:24 AM
If it does turn out to be suicide, is this better or worse for the industry than mechanical failure as a cause?
Worse. They can do positive things to prevent mechanical failure.
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Quote from: The Camel on March 26, 2015, 10:33:24 AM
If it does turn out to be suicide, is this better or worse for the industry than mechanical failure as a cause?
Better, but get your drift.
Easier to solve if is is suicide than a problem with the aircraft. You can't stop suicide, of course, but access to the cockpit is sortable.
They key to that is that since 9/11, the cockpit doors have to be locked at all times. Apparently, the cabin crew have a code with which they can unlock it, so that's a mystery as to why they never, or were unable to.
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Looks like we have a split jury on that......
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Quote from: The Camel on March 26, 2015, 10:33:24 AM
If it does turn out to be suicide, is this better or worse for the industry than mechanical failure as a cause?
its better, though no less palatable for the families of the lost ones
you can sort out access/never leaving a single person alone in the cockpit etc
mechanical failures can ground fleets and affect the industry more imo
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Re: "Germanwings" A320 crashes in France
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Quote from: tikay on March 26, 2015, 10:44:10 AM
Quote from: The Camel on March 26, 2015, 10:33:24 AM
If it does turn out to be suicide, is this better or worse for the industry than mechanical failure as a cause?
Better, but get your drift.
Easier to solve if is is suicide than a problem with the aircraft. You can't stop suicide, of course, but access to the cockpit is sortable.
They key to that is that since 9/11, the cockpit doors have to be locked at all times. Apparently, the cabin crew have a code with which they can unlock it, so that's a mystery as to why they never, or were unable to.
I read somewhere that there can be a bolt too. Some airlines have a two in the cockpit rule.
There have been a few suicides over the years, allegedly.
They ruled out terrorism early, as usual, but it could be the indirect cause. Or the "war on terror" is, depending where your sympathy's lie.
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Quote from: Doobs on March 26, 2015, 10:53:40 AM
Quote from: tikay on March 26, 2015, 10:44:10 AM
Quote from: The Camel on March 26, 2015, 10:33:24 AM
If it does turn out to be suicide, is this better or worse for the industry than mechanical failure as a cause?
Better, but get your drift.
Easier to solve if is is suicide than a problem with the aircraft. You can't stop suicide, of course, but access to the cockpit is sortable.
They key to that is that since 9/11, the cockpit doors have to be locked at all times. Apparently, the cabin crew have a code with which they can unlock it, so that's a mystery as to why they never, or were unable to.
I read somewhere that there can be a bolt too. Some airlines have a two in the cockpit rule.
There have been a few suicides over the years, allegedly.
They ruled out terrorism early, as usual, but it could be the indirect cause. Or the "war on terror" is, depending where your sympathy's lie.
I'm 99% certain the door does not have a bolt.
The whole system revolves around being able to open it in an emergency. Which clearly failed this time, if the story is true.
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Re: "Germanwings" A320 crashes in France
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March 26, 2015, 11:10:57 AM »
Quote from: tikay on March 26, 2015, 11:01:11 AM
Quote from: Doobs on March 26, 2015, 10:53:40 AM
Quote from: tikay on March 26, 2015, 10:44:10 AM
Quote from: The Camel on March 26, 2015, 10:33:24 AM
If it does turn out to be suicide, is this better or worse for the industry than mechanical failure as a cause?
Better, but get your drift.
Easier to solve if is is suicide than a problem with the aircraft. You can't stop suicide, of course, but access to the cockpit is sortable.
They key to that is that since 9/11, the cockpit doors have to be locked at all times. Apparently, the cabin crew have a code with which they can unlock it, so that's a mystery as to why they never, or were unable to.
I read somewhere that there can be a bolt too. Some airlines have a two in the cockpit rule.
There have been a few suicides over the years, allegedly.
They ruled out terrorism early, as usual, but it could be the indirect cause. Or the "war on terror" is, depending where your sympathy's lie.
I'm 99% certain the door does not have a bolt.
The whole system revolves around being able to open it in an emergency. Which clearly failed this time, if the story is true.
Wouldn't being able to open it from the outside in an emergency defeat it's intended purpose though? i.e. terrorist forces someone on the outside to open it?
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