The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[DungBeetle]

Having being presented with the evidence I conclude that it’s a 30 percent chance Corbyn is a naive fool and 70 percent chance he is an anti-Semite.  Just too many incidents for it to be a press conspiracy.  If that opinion makes me a simpleton then so be it.

[RickBFA]

Maybe because Labour's losing their smug moral high ground with racialist Jezza at the helm?

Can a moderator delete what this despicable ***** wrote?

There’s a better chance they will delete your drunk abusive post I reckon 

Mate, it's important we show some compassion at this testing time for Leftie politics. Not being able to point at the Right and Leave voters with accusations of racism must be a disappointment.

Having to look in the mirror and reflect upon the institutional racism running through their party must be a challenge. Now they only have the simpleton card to play. But as you know, all us entrepreneurial go-getting simpletons will keep making it happen.

Yeah, it was a dumb post, I was literally the guy "someone is wrong about something about the internet" with a pretty girl lying in my bed asking wtf was going on.

"Entrepreneurial go getting" lol a man who runs a leisure centre and a man who rips off the NHS for a decent stipend and pension. A Sun reader calling an all time (in all the humans so far) antiracism campaigners, a racist, wtf is going on?

You seem like a very smart guy that's just lost the plot.

Constant digs and getting more and more aggressive/abusive with every post.

You are just embarrassing yourself now.

Just weird.

Good morning

It's a weird outlet for my frustration, I'll happily concede that. We are taking about a man, who has devoted his life to fighting racism/fascism, being smeared by simpletons who are intentionally causing offence. JC has is a signatory on and has voted for, massive numbers of pro Jewish (not Israeli) Parliamentary motions, he is an example to us all, hell, he even believes in a fair distribution of wealth....it's kinda hard to argue with that.

I hate the simpletons getting excited about him being smeared, I always will.

Good morning

I just posted a piece about 39 senior members of his own party on the subject.

Are they simpletons?

Seems there is a lot of them about.

Corbyn is too worried about upsetting his pals in Momentum to actually show any real leadership on this issue. That's the crux of the matter in my simpleton opinion.

[Woodsey]

Maybe because Labour's losing their smug moral high ground with racialist Jezza at the helm?

Can a moderator delete what this despicable ***** wrote?

There’s a better chance they will delete your drunk abusive post I reckon 

Mate, it's important we show some compassion at this testing time for Leftie politics. Not being able to point at the Right and Leave voters with accusations of racism must be a disappointment.

Having to look in the mirror and reflect upon the institutional racism running through their party must be a challenge. Now they only have the simpleton card to play. But as you know, all us entrepreneurial go-getting simpletons will keep making it happen.

Yeah, it was a dumb post, I was literally the guy "someone is wrong about something about the internet" with a pretty girl lying in my bed asking wtf was going on.

"Entrepreneurial go getting" lol a man who runs a leisure centre and a man who rips off the NHS for a decent stipend and pension. A Sun reader calling an all time (in all the humans so far) antiracism campaigners, a racist, wtf is going on?

You seem like a very smart guy that's just lost the plot.

Constant digs and getting more and more aggressive/abusive with every post.

You are just embarrassing yourself now.

Just weird.

Good morning

It's a weird outlet for my frustration, I'll happily concede that. We are taking about a man, who has devoted his life to fighting racism/fascism, being smeared by simpletons who are intentionally causing offence. JC has is a signatory on and has voted for, massive numbers of pro Jewish (not Israeli) Parliamentary motions, he is an example to us all, hell, he even believes in a fair distribution of wealth....it's kinda hard to argue with that.

I hate the simpletons getting excited about him being smeared, I always will.

Well those ‘simpletons causing offence’ include Jewish leaders and many of his own MP’s. If you choose to dismiss that entirely then you have to question who the simpleton is.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43549831

[Woodsey]

Aha sorry Rick should have checked your post first.....

[kukushkin88]

Having being presented with the evidence I conclude that it’s a 30 percent chance Corbyn is a naive fool and 70 percent chance he is an anti-Semite.  Just too many incidents for it to be a press conspiracy.  If that opinion makes me a simpleton then so be it.

It doesn't make you a simpleton, it just means you haven't seen much (perhaps ~ a bit less than 30%) of the evidence. There is no evidence he is an anti Semite, literally none.

Anyway back to the simpletons, hopefully  briefly. Of course as a 'snowflake' my instinct toward the simpletons is sympathy and pity, they (the simpletons) are being offensive deliberately though, I believe the word is "trolling". I'm OK to give them what they want.

Last word on politics from me for the weekend, have a lovely Easter everyone.

[Woodsey]

Having being presented with the evidence I conclude that it’s a 30 percent chance Corbyn is a naive fool and 70 percent chance he is an anti-Semite.  Just too many incidents for it to be a press conspiracy.  If that opinion makes me a simpleton then so be it.

It doesn't make you a simpleton, it just means you haven't seen much (perhaps ~ a bit less than 30%) of the evidence. There is no evidence he is an anti Semite, literally none.

Anyway back to the simpletons, hopefully  briefly. Of course as a 'snowflake' my instinct toward the simpletons is sympathy and pity, they (the simpletons) are being offensive deliberately though, I believe the word is "trolling". I'm OK to give them what they want.

Last word on politics from me for the weekend, have a lovely Easter everyone.

Woah, don’t go anywhere! Get some beers down tonight and come back for some more action! 

[MANTIS01]

I've never run a leisure centre in my life.

Yep, those simpletons who draw conclusions from little evidence.

[RickBFA]

Having being presented with the evidence I conclude that it’s a 30 percent chance Corbyn is a naive fool and 70 percent chance he is an anti-Semite.  Just too many incidents for it to be a press conspiracy.  If that opinion makes me a simpleton then so be it.

It doesn't make you a simpleton, it just means you haven't seen much (perhaps ~ a bit less than 30%) of the evidence. There is no evidence he is an anti Semite, literally none.

Anyway back to the simpletons, hopefully  briefly. Of course as a 'snowflake' my instinct toward the simpletons is sympathy and pity, they (the simpletons) are being offensive deliberately though, I believe the word is "trolling". I'm OK to give them what they want.

Last word on politics from me for the weekend, have a lovely Easter everyone.

I've been thinking about what you said, how Corbyn is not anti Semitic.

Wouldn't it make his views and leadership on the issue a lot clearer if he took decisive action and suspended Shawcroft from the NEC?

Think about it if this were the Tories - you would be screaming for action. Don't you think it would be wise to take this action quickly? Its situations like this that make people question him. He has to play the political game and suspend her from the NEC if he wants respect on this right now.

Doesn't that make sense?

[kukushkin88]

We'll see :-), I make poor decisions after a beer or three, always have.  No girl tonight, might get my full attention. Anyway sorry for the abuse, i'm happy enough with the use of simpleton though.

One word on evidence though, a man votes for something in Parliament, that's an excellent piece evidence. Somebody says someone else should/shouldn't/has/hasn't done something, that's terrible evidence, the worst.

I will try hard not to post again, please enjoy your weekends.

[DungBeetle]

Having being presented with the evidence I conclude that it’s a 30 percent chance Corbyn is a naive fool and 70 percent chance he is an anti-Semite.  Just too many incidents for it to be a press conspiracy.  If that opinion makes me a simpleton then so be it.

It doesn't make you a simpleton, it just means you haven't seen much (perhaps ~ a bit less than 30%) of the evidence. There is no evidence he is an anti Semite, literally none.

Anyway back to the simpletons, hopefully  briefly. Of course as a 'snowflake' my instinct toward the simpletons is sympathy and pity, they (the simpletons) are being offensive deliberately though, I believe the word is "trolling". I'm OK to give them what they want.

Last word on politics from me for the weekend, have a lovely Easter everyone.

There is evidence though to my mind.  Incidents that in isolation would be dismissed as unfortunate errors of judgement but which cumulatively paint a damning picture.  The mural.  The letter to the anti-semite’s employer.  Welcoming a man to your place of work who talked of 911 being a Jewish conspiracy and of blood libel.  Participating in anti-Semitic Facebook groups while failing the notice the comments of other participants.  Attending conferences where holocaust deniers are speaking.

As I said he may be a moron.  But it’s also likely he tolerates anti-Semite views.

[Woodsey]

We'll see :-), I make poor decisions after a beer or three, always have.  No girl tonight, might get my full attention. Anyway sorry for the abuse, i'm happy enough with the use of simpleton though.

One word on evidence though, a man votes for something in Parliament, that's an excellent piece evidence. Somebody says someone else should/shouldn't/has/hasn't done something, that's terrible evidence, the worst.

I will try hard not to post again, please enjoy your weekends.

You’ll be back, we know you can’t resist 

[kukushkin88]

Having being presented with the evidence I conclude that it’s a 30 percent chance Corbyn is a naive fool and 70 percent chance he is an anti-Semite.  Just too many incidents for it to be a press conspiracy.  If that opinion makes me a simpleton then so be it.

It doesn't make you a simpleton, it just means you haven't seen much (perhaps ~ a bit less than 30%) of the evidence. There is no evidence he is an anti Semite, literally none.

Anyway back to the simpletons, hopefully  briefly. Of course as a 'snowflake' my instinct toward the simpletons is sympathy and pity, they (the simpletons) are being offensive deliberately though, I believe the word is "trolling". I'm OK to give them what they want.

Last word on politics from me for the weekend, have a lovely Easter everyone.

I've been thinking about what you said, how Corbyn is not anti Semitic.

Wouldn't it make his views and leadership on the issue a lot clearer if he took decisive action and suspended Shawcroft from the NEC?

Think about it if this were the Tories - you would be screaming for action. Don't you think it would be wise to take this action quickly? Its situations like this that make people question him. He has to play the political game and suspend her from the NEC if he wants respect on this right now.

Doesn't that make sense?

OK, I can't do it. Elements of Conservative party are very racist. We have a foreign secretary who uses the term 'pickaninny' he's a really bumbling clumsy bufffoon but he knows it's very racist, we have an MP who describes a problem as "a nigger in the woodpile" and an MP who goes to Tignes (or maybe it was Meribel) and he's arranged for everyone to dress as Nazi's. Nothing happens, because they've decided and I'm sure Gove, Dave C, Osborne and Danny Fink (love DF's articles in The Times, all too rare these days) decided this, sackings are worse press than desperate incompetence (you only have to look at TM as HS to know this) and racism. All Corbyn has done is let due process deal with the nutters, he kind of has to. No one hates the anti Semites more than me, possibly JC I guess.

[RED-DOG]

Great thread Dewi.

[kukushkin88]

I've never run a leisure centre in my life.

Yep, those simpletons who draw conclusions from little evidence.

I'm sorry, watched someone else run a leisure centre. I thought I'd aimed high. TK seems certain you run an LC though, in fact he's impressed by it and he seems like a top guy, you should be pleased with that.

[MANTIS01]

Lol 10 minutes.

Hope you last longer with the mystery pretty girl.