The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

lol

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[TightEnd]

most entertaining

http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/12/donald-trump-vs-alex-salmond-its-a-shame-they-cant-both-lose/

[david3103]

lol

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It's a bit worrying when you realise that you might actually agree with Donald Trump on something.

[AlunB]

The irony overload in that message from Trump might actually destroy the universe

[horseplayer]

More great work by Lucy Allan

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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tories-rocked-by-new-bullying-storm-as-mp-lucy-allan-accused-of-vicious-abuse-of-sick-staff-member-a3139526.html

what a lovely person she is

[MintTrav]

More great work by Lucy Allan

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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tories-rocked-by-new-bullying-storm-as-mp-lucy-allan-accused-of-vicious-abuse-of-sick-staff-member-a3139526.html

what a lovely person she is

No fan of Lucy Allan, and she was an idiot over the Facebook thing, but I think she was absolutely in the right this time. Taking casual sick time is bad enough, but I have never heard of someone repeatedly not phoning in and not picking up calls from their employer.

[horseplayer]

More great work by Lucy Allan

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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tories-rocked-by-new-bullying-storm-as-mp-lucy-allan-accused-of-vicious-abuse-of-sick-staff-member-a3139526.html

what a lovely person she is

No fan of Lucy Allan, and she was an idiot over the Facebook thing, but I think she was absolutely in the right this time. Taking casual sick time is bad enough, but I have never heard of someone repeatedly not phoning in and not picking up calls from their employer.

The employee states text contact was agreed fwiw.


Agreed but in her position leaving voicemails like that is asking for trouble,actually in any position

[horseplayer]

https://t.co/Sm9U7RoUJT


There are now 96 tory special advisors.. average salary 84k. Eight cabinet ministers have 3 yes 3 each.

I can see the justification of having one special advisor each almost but three?

[TightEnd]

Brexit chances rise to high of 40%, according to Ladbrokes' latest odds.

[RED-DOG]

So if we go out will there then be another referendum to see if we want to go back in?

Also, if we go out how will it affect my right to live, move freely and work in Europe?

[david3103]

So if we go out will there then be another referendum to see if we want to go back in?

Also, if we go out how will it affect my right to live, move freely and work in Europe?

If we go out the possibility of re-entry is virtually nonexistent.

Your right to live, move and work freely in Europe will be similar to your right to do those things in countries outside of the EU now. That is to say it will be restricted by the laws of those countries.

I'm in the 'leave' camp btw, but I understand that these rights could be important to you Tom.

[Woodsey]

So if we go out will there then be another referendum to see if we want to go back in?

Also, if we go out how will it affect my right to live, move freely and work in Europe?

If we go out the possibility of re-entry is virtually nonexistent.

Your right to live, move and work freely in Europe will be similar to your right to do those things in countries outside of the EU now. That is to say it will be restricted by the laws of those countries.

I'm in the 'leave' camp btw, but I understand that these rights could be important to you Tom.

If we go out I reckon they would quickly agree similar movement/work rights indivually with the 'old' EU countries and exclude the recent additions where a lot of the recent immigration is from and allow them here on an as need basis with visas.

[ripple11]

Looks so tight!

They say when in doubt, voters stay with the status quo......but will the "remain vote" really be as motivated to turn out, as the "leave vote"?. Hmm...not so sure.

Cameron surely has to risk going asap (June).....the ongoing migration trail  means he can't wait.

[MintTrav]

Looks so tight!

They say when in doubt, voters stay with the status quo......but will the "remain vote" really be as motivated to turn out, as the "leave vote"?. Hmm...not so sure.

Cameron surely has to risk going asap (June).....the ongoing migration trail  means he can't wait.

Spot on. September would mean another Summer of immigrants in boats just before the vote. If it isn't May, I'm sure he would like to drag it out til the following May or, better still, til after he steps down. I'm sure he doesn't want his mark on history to be the PM who took us out of Europe.

The leavers are right in what they say about his strategy. He put out a list of demands on items the EU wasn't bothered about, so they could be presented as reforms successfully achieved. Unfortunately, it turns out that the EU is bothered about one of them and he has painted himself into a corner. A fudge will be done and Cameron will announce a major success, which will actually be of little substance. We would have been better off if he just went to the country as we are instead of trying an obvious bit of hoodwinkery on the population.

[DungBeetle]

Seems absolutely ridiculous.  The Tories constantly increase cost of Government and increase red tape on business.  If I'm not mistaken this is the complete opposite of what they are supposed to be about.

They are useless high tax, high spend career politicians.