The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[Marky147]

[TightEnd]

A weird one

No-deal Brexit ferry company owns no ships and has never run Channel service. wins £14m contract, planning to re-open Ramsgate-Ostend

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/30/no-deal-brexit-ferry-company-owns-no-ships-and-has-never-run-ferry-service

[Pokerpops]

A weird one

No-deal Brexit ferry company owns no ships and has never run Channel service. wins £14m contract, planning to re-open Ramsgate-Ostend

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/30/no-deal-brexit-ferry-company-owns-no-ships-and-has-never-run-ferry-service

They

Or,

New ferry operator to reopen Ramsgate-Ostend route and ease fears of congestion at Dover.

They have been plannng this for a while.

[neeko]

Hey, it’s the end of the year so let’s throw some darts at the board and make some guesses for the new Year.

(I voted remain, but  the EU is not a great thing to be a part of)

A second referendum will not solve anything, the country will still be split in two.

Both parties are split in two.

First past the post electoral system means neither party dares have the split they really need. Labour the a metro remain party and a northern brexit party. The tories are a younger remain party with an older rural brexit party, whose members are all old but MPs are not as old.

I predict that either (cop out stats opinion) 60% Mays deal or 30% remain or 10% no deal (by which I mean they do loads of deals but call it no deal.)

Best for Britain is anything not run by JC. I can live with a Tom Watson govt but not a Shamus Milne communist one.

The EU will be happy with anything that does not cause Italy to go bust.

The UK is a parliamentary democracy, MPs need to make the decision, not another referendum vote. Another GE means the MPs don’t have the balls to make a decision.

HNY, just think as soon as brexit is finished we need 2 decades of arguments as to the level of immigrations concessions we need to give to country xyz so we can sign a free trade deal with them.

Good luck getting the pot hole fixed in your road, ever.

[Doobs]

A bit late, but I have only just come across it.

Here Aaron Bastani provides a link to show why his source is the Country's foremost forensic lip reader.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1075410067963473920

Stupid woman it is then.

Happy New Year everyone.

[Marky147]

A bit late, but I have only just come across it.

Here Aaron Bastani provides a link to show why his source is the Country's foremost forensic lip reader.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1075410067963473920

Stupid woman it is then.

Happy New Year everyone.

HNY.

[tikay]

A weird one

No-deal Brexit ferry company owns no ships and has never run Channel service. wins £14m contract, planning to re-open Ramsgate-Ostend

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/30/no-deal-brexit-ferry-company-owns-no-ships-and-has-never-run-ferry-service

If Twitter is to be believed (doubtful I suppose), the T &C's on the Seabourne Freight website are as below;

Click to see full-size image.

Can't possibly be true, but it'd be great if it were.

[tikay]

^^^^^

Bugger, it's not true.



https://seabornefreight.com/terms

[TightEnd]

it was true, since corrected

"Department for Transport says the no-deal Brexit firm (the one with no ships) put terms and conditions from a takeaway food shop on its website in "error"."

[tikay]

it was true, since corrected

"Department for Transport says the no-deal Brexit firm (the one with no ships) put terms and conditions from a takeaway food shop on its website in "error"."

That's extraordinary.

[TightEnd]

Dredging has begun at the Port of Ramsgate this morning as preparations continue to get the port ready for a no-deal Brexit.

Seaborne Freight which received £13.8m govt contract is paying a Dutch dredging company to do the work.

86 days until Brexit.

[TightEnd]

Messages on noticeboards have changed...

this morning

[BigAdz]

Its interesting. I was only chatting to a Remoaner friend just yesterday and we both seemed to be seeing a lot more articles that can only be labelled as " it might not be that bad after all, and we are making the right decision, even if it will hurt us a fair bit"

He was still moaning though.

Just saying like

[TightEnd]

a good bbc reality check article

Brexit: Could Channel Ports cope with no deal?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46739895

[TightEnd]

What next?


key points from The Times today

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/62a2f4aa-0fa7-11e9-aa1a-52868904fdf4


1 The meaningful vote is set to be either on Tue Jan 15 or Wed Jan 16. A decision hasn’t been made yet

2 plan is for May to appear on the Marr on BBC 1 on Sunday to launch the 10 year NHS plan, spelling out how the ££ announced over the summer will be spent.

3 More help from EU on the way - possibly as soon next week. Cabinet ministers agree with Leo Varadkar - who suggested yesterday after his 40 min Merkel call  that the U.K. could expect additional help from the EU to get the Meaningful Vote through. Help “on eve if vote”

4 The EU won’t give much Eg it cd be a verbal promise a permanent backstop “is not a desired outcome”.  this assistance - non binding promises the backstop will be temporary - is being referred to in Whitehall as “Operation Figleaf”

5 May will have two (or three?) tries to get the Meaningful Vote through - but not more. Cabinet ministers believe - and No10 does not deny - she’ll go again

6  Cabinet ministers simply do not know what happens if she loses both votes - and are split over whether she goes for no deal or whether she tries something else

7 Tory members are in a different place the country as whole on “no deal” -
63% of TORY MEMBERS say they would be delighted/pleased/relieved by no deal
18% of ALL VOTERS say the same

8 Labour opposition to the deal has been solidifying The polling of Labour members this week suggested Jeremy Corbyn is under huge grassroots pressure to reject TM’s deal

What next? Who knows