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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #16755 on: March 11, 2019, 11:46:32 PM »

Today's absolute nothing news on the backstop just confirms that we are either not going to leave the EU at all or need a second vote to get it over the bloody line or to stop it.

Nothing has changed on the backstop and it won't in the future. I also think that looking at both May & Junker's body language, this is genuinely the end of the line. Therefore meaning that if we opt to extend, that we can't extend for more talks, but instead something more significant in a GE or 2nd vote. It's pretty clear that ore talks aren't going to go anywhere.

I know I have banged on about the second vote, but it's the only way to get it across the line. Take it out of MP's hands and make sure it doesn't have to be confirmed by the 650 MP's. That vote should either be Deal v Remain or No Deal v Remain.

If this isn't going to happen, however undemocratic you think it is, then we are going to be here forever, whilst stuck in the EU!
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« Reply #16756 on: March 12, 2019, 02:25:38 AM »


I know I have banged on about the second vote, but it's the only way to get it across the line. Take it out of MP's hands and make sure it doesn't have to be confirmed by the 650 MP's. That vote should either be Deal v Remain or No Deal v Remain.


should be two parts

Part A:

LEAVE vs REMAIN

Part B:

If number of leave votes are greater than remain;

DEAL vs NO DEAL
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« Reply #16757 on: March 12, 2019, 09:15:01 AM »


I know I have banged on about the second vote, but it's the only way to get it across the line. Take it out of MP's hands and make sure it doesn't have to be confirmed by the 650 MP's. That vote should either be Deal v Remain or No Deal v Remain.


Do we know what 'the deal' is before we blindly vote yes/no to it?
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« Reply #16758 on: March 12, 2019, 09:16:32 AM »

Today's absolute nothing news on the backstop just confirms that we are either not going to leave the EU at all or need a second vote to get it over the bloody line or to stop it.

Nothing has changed on the backstop and it won't in the future. I also think that looking at both May & Junker's body language, this is genuinely the end of the line. Therefore meaning that if we opt to extend, that we can't extend for more talks, but instead something more significant in a GE or 2nd vote. It's pretty clear that ore talks aren't going to go anywhere.

I know I have banged on about the second vote, but it's the only way to get it across the line. Take it out of MP's hands and make sure it doesn't have to be confirmed by the 650 MP's. That vote should either be Deal v Remain or No Deal v Remain.

If this isn't going to happen, however undemocratic you think it is, then we are going to be here forever, whilst stuck in the EU!


DUP/ERG are looking for a climb down and to move forward. This is their chance,...big last chance. As long as Cox says its legally blinding.......then we have a deal that gets through. Better than 50/50 for me this morning,
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« Reply #16759 on: March 12, 2019, 09:57:27 AM »

I know I have banged on about the second vote, but it's the only way to get it across the line. Take it out of MP's hands and make sure it doesn't have to be confirmed by the 650 MP's.

That's not how it works. Whatever a referendum result might be MPs will still have to vote to pass whatever legislation through parliament.
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« Reply #16760 on: March 12, 2019, 10:09:07 AM »

I hope they vote it through tonight just so we don't have to listen to Aaron's 2nd vote campaign anymore!
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« Reply #16761 on: March 12, 2019, 10:55:46 AM »

Today's absolute nothing news on the backstop just confirms that we are either not going to leave the EU at all or need a second vote to get it over the bloody line or to stop it.

Nothing has changed on the backstop and it won't in the future. I also think that looking at both May & Junker's body language, this is genuinely the end of the line. Therefore meaning that if we opt to extend, that we can't extend for more talks, but instead something more significant in a GE or 2nd vote. It's pretty clear that ore talks aren't going to go anywhere.

I know I have banged on about the second vote, but it's the only way to get it across the line. Take it out of MP's hands and make sure it doesn't have to be confirmed by the 650 MP's. That vote should either be Deal v Remain or No Deal v Remain.

If this isn't going to happen, however undemocratic you think it is, then we are going to be here forever, whilst stuck in the EU!


DUP/ERG are looking for a climb down and to move forward. This is their chance,...big last chance. As long as Cox says its legally blinding.......then we have a deal that gets through. Better than 50/50 for me this morning,

The independent information from legal minds seem to suggest he won't be able to advise anything of the sort.  This is a very good summary.

https://twitter.com/bricksilk/status/1105397617209556992

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« Reply #16762 on: March 12, 2019, 12:05:39 PM »

Why can't we give NI back to the Republic where it belongs?
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« Reply #16763 on: March 12, 2019, 12:10:01 PM »

Why can't we give NI back to the Republic where it belongs?



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« Reply #16764 on: March 12, 2019, 03:37:53 PM »

Anyone gonna miss brexit when it's all over?
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« Reply #16765 on: March 12, 2019, 07:26:10 PM »

Anyone gonna miss brexit when it's all over?

What's brexit?
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« Reply #16766 on: March 12, 2019, 07:37:41 PM »

Anyone gonna miss brexit when it's all over?

What's brexit?


It will be a footnote in history Sad
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« Reply #16767 on: March 13, 2019, 09:29:34 AM »

Im just looking forward to the day all the fancy london coffee shops have to change "pain au chocolate" to "chocolate pasty"
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« Reply #16768 on: March 13, 2019, 09:56:33 AM »

Im just looking forward to the day all the fancy london coffee shops have to change "pain au chocolate" to "chocolate pasty"

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« Reply #16769 on: March 13, 2019, 10:14:51 AM »

Im just looking forward to the day all the fancy london coffee shops have to change "pain au chocolate" to "chocolate pasty"

.......and put the money in a jar, as there's no staff to serve  Smiley
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