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« Reply #16815 on: March 14, 2019, 08:49:37 AM »

Kuku is absolute box office.  He styles himself online as the high brow superior passive aggressive left wing intellectual.  Unfortunately he then gets caught up in a mindless spat and the insults start of “overweight Middle Aged” people.  Next stage is when his fragile temperament fails completely  and the mask completely slips and he ends up like a swearing aggressive docker.

No wonder people wind him up.

More! More!

 

The level of engaged debate here is inversely proportional to the involvement of the wind up merchants whose only response to reasoned argument is to belittle people.

He’s great in my book.  Has mellowed a bit unfortunately.

I think you’ve got a bit carried away with this, there must be better ways to entertain yourself. I haven’t mellowed, I’m just trying to find the best way to limit how much the trolls damage the debate.

It’s bizarre that you think me worthy of comment but Woodsey and his threats of violence (the high likelihood that he’s actually a physical coward, as well as a moral one, is noteworthy) just go by without comment from anyone.

On balance do you honestly think I was threatening you or just having a laugh? If you do I think you are probably the only one.....

For the record I will avoid scraps in real life where possible, but if push comes to shove I’ll do what I have to do.

I’m pretty relaxed about the threat directed at me, a mixture of not thinking it’s serious but more importantly doubting your capability to make good on it anyway. I think your response to the Will Self/Mark Francois clip is entirely ridiculous, you should be embarrassed.

I’m not embarrassed in the least, there’s no doubt in my mind you’ve have woken many a morning only to be embarrassed to see what you have written 

Either way, Will self deserves a fkn slap from someone for being a sanctimonious prick.....
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« Reply #16816 on: March 14, 2019, 08:51:43 AM »

Kuku is absolute box office.  He styles himself online as the high brow superior passive aggressive left wing intellectual.  Unfortunately he then gets caught up in a mindless spat and the insults start of “overweight Middle Aged” people.  Next stage is when his fragile temperament fails completely  and the mask completely slips and he ends up like a swearing aggressive docker.

No wonder people wind him up.

More! More!

 

The level of engaged debate here is inversely proportional to the involvement of the wind up merchants whose only response to reasoned argument is to belittle people.

He’s great in my book.  Has mellowed a bit unfortunately.

I think you’ve got a bit carried away with this, there must be better ways to entertain yourself. I haven’t mellowed, I’m just trying to find the best way to limit how much the trolls damage the debate.

It’s bizarre that you think me worthy of comment but Woodsey and his threats of violence (the high likelihood that he’s actually a physical coward, as well as a moral one, is noteworthy) just go by without comment from anyone.

On balance do you honestly think I was threatening you or just having a laugh? If you do I think you are probably the only one.....

For the record I will avoid scraps in real life where possible, but if push comes to shove I’ll do what I have to do.

I’m pretty relaxed about the threat directed at me, a mixture of not thinking it’s serious but more importantly doubting your capability to make good on it anyway. I think your response to the Will Self/Mark Francois clip is entirely ridiculous, you should be embarrassed.

I’m not embarrassed in the least, there’s no doubt in my mind you’ve have woken many a morning only to be embarrassed to see what you have written 

Either way, Will self deserves a fkn slap from someone for being a sanctimonious prick.....

I assume for the last sentence you’re already hiding behind the idea that you’re not serious? It’s a pretty weird way to behave.
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« Reply #16817 on: March 14, 2019, 08:57:15 AM »

Kuku is absolute box office.  He styles himself online as the high brow superior passive aggressive left wing intellectual.  Unfortunately he then gets caught up in a mindless spat and the insults start of “overweight Middle Aged” people.  Next stage is when his fragile temperament fails completely  and the mask completely slips and he ends up like a swearing aggressive docker.

No wonder people wind him up.

More! More!

 

The level of engaged debate here is inversely proportional to the involvement of the wind up merchants whose only response to reasoned argument is to belittle people.

He’s great in my book.  Has mellowed a bit unfortunately.

I think you’ve got a bit carried away with this, there must be better ways to entertain yourself. I haven’t mellowed, I’m just trying to find the best way to limit how much the trolls damage the debate.

It’s bizarre that you think me worthy of comment but Woodsey and his threats of violence (the high likelihood that he’s actually a physical coward, as well as a moral one, is noteworthy) just go by without comment from anyone.

On balance do you honestly think I was threatening you or just having a laugh? If you do I think you are probably the only one.....

For the record I will avoid scraps in real life where possible, but if push comes to shove I’ll do what I have to do.

I’m pretty relaxed about the threat directed at me, a mixture of not thinking it’s serious but more importantly doubting your capability to make good on it anyway. I think your response to the Will Self/Mark Francois clip is entirely ridiculous, you should be embarrassed.

I’m not embarrassed in the least, there’s no doubt in my mind you’ve have woken many a morning only to be embarrassed to see what you have written  

Either way, Will self deserves a fkn slap from someone for being a sanctimonious prick.....

I assume for the last sentence you’re already hiding behind the idea that you’re not serious? It’s a pretty weird way to behave.

Of course I wasn’t serious, not everything written is a fact you know, even what you write believe it or not.

There’s nothing weirder than claiming to be as calm as calm can be whilst clearly losing the plot and getting all ranty  
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« Reply #16818 on: March 14, 2019, 09:12:49 AM »

Kuku is absolute box office.  He styles himself online as the high brow superior passive aggressive left wing intellectual.  Unfortunately he then gets caught up in a mindless spat and the insults start of “overweight Middle Aged” people.  Next stage is when his fragile temperament fails completely  and the mask completely slips and he ends up like a swearing aggressive docker.

No wonder people wind him up.

More! More!

It should be nominated as an official sport  Cheesy
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« Reply #16819 on: March 14, 2019, 09:58:03 AM »

Kuku is absolute box office.  He styles himself online as the high brow superior passive aggressive left wing intellectual.  Unfortunately he then gets caught up in a mindless spat and the insults start of “overweight Middle Aged” people.  Next stage is when his fragile temperament fails completely  and the mask completely slips and he ends up like a swearing aggressive docker.

No wonder people wind him up.

More! More!

 

The level of engaged debate here is inversely proportional to the involvement of the wind up merchants whose only response to reasoned argument is to belittle people.

He’s great in my book.  Has mellowed a bit unfortunately.

I think you’ve got a bit carried away with this, there must be better ways to entertain yourself. I haven’t mellowed, I’m just trying to find the best way to limit how much the trolls damage the debate.

It’s bizarre that you think me worthy of comment but Woodsey and his threats of violence (the high likelihood that he’s actually a physical coward, as well as a moral one, is noteworthy) just go by without comment from anyone.

On balance do you honestly think I was threatening you or just having a laugh? If you do I think you are probably the only one.....

For the record I will avoid scraps in real life where possible, but if push comes to shove I’ll do what I have to do.

I’m pretty relaxed about the threat directed at me, a mixture of not thinking it’s serious but more importantly doubting your capability to make good on it anyway. I think your response to the Will Self/Mark Francois clip is entirely ridiculous, you should be embarrassed.

I’m not embarrassed in the least, there’s no doubt in my mind you’ve have woken many a morning only to be embarrassed to see what you have written  

Either way, Will self deserves a fkn slap from someone for being a sanctimonious prick.....

I assume for the last sentence you’re already hiding behind the idea that you’re not serious? It’s a pretty weird way to behave.

Of course I wasn’t serious, not everything written is a fact you know, even what you write believe it or not.

There’s nothing weirder than claiming to be as calm as calm can be whilst clearly losing the plot and getting all ranty  

It’s a pretty comprehensive misunderstanding. Questioning why you act like a naughty and not very bright 13 year old is a just a light hearted distraction to me. I’ll admit to being perplexed as to why I feel compelled to keep doing it but it’s not a big deal and sometimes kinda fun.
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« Reply #16820 on: March 14, 2019, 10:25:18 AM »

I thought Socialists were into all that "power to the people" stuff?

Guess that's not the case if Socialists think the people are too stupid & ill-informed to handle power.

Socialists actually have contempt for the people, interesting insight.



I would honestly punch that Will Self prick if I ever bumped into him, what a fucking sanctimonious arsehole..... 

Have you ever punched someone properly? (as an adult)

None of your business.....

I find it incredible that people say you’re an OK guy in the real world. What goes wrong when you write stuff down on the internet?



Interestingly ironic.......
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« Reply #16821 on: March 14, 2019, 10:25:51 AM »

Kuku is absolute box office.  He styles himself online as the high brow superior passive aggressive left wing intellectual.  Unfortunately he then gets caught up in a mindless spat and the insults start of “overweight Middle Aged” people.  Next stage is when his fragile temperament fails completely  and the mask completely slips and he ends up like a swearing aggressive docker.

No wonder people wind him up.

More! More!

 

The level of engaged debate here is inversely proportional to the involvement of the wind up merchants whose only response to reasoned argument is to belittle people.

He’s great in my book.  Has mellowed a bit unfortunately.

I think you’ve got a bit carried away with this, there must be better ways to entertain yourself. I haven’t mellowed, I’m just trying to find the best way to limit how much the trolls damage the debate.

It’s bizarre that you think me worthy of comment but Woodsey and his threats of violence (the high likelihood that he’s actually a physical coward, as well as a moral one, is noteworthy) just go by without comment from anyone.

On balance do you honestly think I was threatening you or just having a laugh? If you do I think you are probably the only one.....

For the record I will avoid scraps in real life where possible, but if push comes to shove I’ll do what I have to do.

I’m pretty relaxed about the threat directed at me, a mixture of not thinking it’s serious but more importantly doubting your capability to make good on it anyway. I think your response to the Will Self/Mark Francois clip is entirely ridiculous, you should be embarrassed.

I’m not embarrassed in the least, there’s no doubt in my mind you’ve have woken many a morning only to be embarrassed to see what you have written  

Either way, Will self deserves a fkn slap from someone for being a sanctimonious prick.....

I assume for the last sentence you’re already hiding behind the idea that you’re not serious? It’s a pretty weird way to behave.

Of course I wasn’t serious, not everything written is a fact you know, even what you write believe it or not.

There’s nothing weirder than claiming to be as calm as calm can be whilst clearly losing the plot and getting all ranty  

It’s a pretty comprehensive misunderstanding. Questioning why you act like a naughty and not very bright 13 year old is a just a light hearted distraction to me. I’ll admit to being perplexed as to why I feel compelled to keep doing it but it’s not a big deal and sometimes kinda fun.

Except when you get all green and angry  
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« Reply #16822 on: March 14, 2019, 11:13:04 AM »

I’m chaining Kuku to the middle of Trafalgar Square with a remain sign stuck on him if that happens 

I’m pretty relaxed about the threat directed at me.

I tend to avoid getting involved in the 'back and forth' you have with Woodsey et al, but the fact that you even refer to this comment as a threat is laughable.  I'm struggling to believe that you can't see it as a very obvious throwaway comment.

The subsequent reaction reads like the mock outrage I read on a daily basis from the Corbynista brigade on Twitter.  Owen Jones would no doubt be very proud.
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« Reply #16823 on: March 14, 2019, 11:59:47 AM »

I think Will Self is great.
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« Reply #16824 on: March 14, 2019, 12:06:40 PM »

I can't suffer him.
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« Reply #16825 on: March 14, 2019, 01:17:15 PM »

I’m chaining Kuku to the middle of Trafalgar Square with a remain sign stuck on him if that happens 

I’m pretty relaxed about the threat directed at me.

I tend to avoid getting involved in the 'back and forth' you have with Woodsey et al, but the fact that you even refer to this comment as a threat is laughable.  I'm struggling to believe that you can't see it as a very obvious throwaway comment.

The subsequent reaction reads like the mock outrage I read on a daily basis from the Corbynista brigade on Twitter.  Owen Jones would no doubt be very proud.

I respect your view of course. I did go on to say that part of the reason I’m relaxed about it is because I don’t think it’s serious. I don’t feel outraged, if I gave that impression, it’s another one for the clumsy/poor use of language by me pile. I share your disapproval of mock outrage, same for any behaviour that deliberately distorts the debate.
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« Reply #16826 on: March 14, 2019, 11:55:29 PM »

I’m chaining Kuku to the middle of Trafalgar Square with a remain sign stuck on him if that happens 

I’m pretty relaxed about the threat directed at me.

I tend to avoid getting involved in the 'back and forth' you have with Woodsey et al, but the fact that you even refer to this comment as a threat is laughable.  I'm struggling to believe that you can't see it as a very obvious throwaway comment.

The subsequent reaction reads like the mock outrage I read on a daily basis from the Corbynista brigade on Twitter.  Owen Jones would no doubt be very proud.

I respect your view of course. I did go on to say that part of the reason I’m relaxed about it is because I don’t think it’s serious. I don’t feel outraged, if I gave that impression, it’s another one for the clumsy/poor use of language by me pile. I share your disapproval of mock outrage, same for any behaviour that deliberately distorts the debate.


In view of the number of times you claim the use of clumsy language etc, perhaps before you press send, you should take a deep breath, re read what you have written and ask yourself how it comes across. Either mean it or dont, but dont keep claiming the same excuse when the general forum members call you out.
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« Reply #16827 on: March 15, 2019, 06:43:53 AM »

I’m chaining Kuku to the middle of Trafalgar Square with a remain sign stuck on him if that happens 

I’m pretty relaxed about the threat directed at me.

I tend to avoid getting involved in the 'back and forth' you have with Woodsey et al, but the fact that you even refer to this comment as a threat is laughable.  I'm struggling to believe that you can't see it as a very obvious throwaway comment.

The subsequent reaction reads like the mock outrage I read on a daily basis from the Corbynista brigade on Twitter.  Owen Jones would no doubt be very proud.

I respect your view of course. I did go on to say that part of the reason I’m relaxed about it is because I don’t think it’s serious. I don’t feel outraged, if I gave that impression, it’s another one for the clumsy/poor use of language by me pile. I share your disapproval of mock outrage, same for any behaviour that deliberately distorts the debate.


In view of the number of times you claim the use of clumsy language etc, perhaps before you press send, you should take a deep breath, re read what you have written and ask yourself how it comes across. Either mean it or dont, but dont keep claiming the same excuse when the general forum members call you out.

I’m OK with the current method/system. I’m grateful to Doobs/Sherrif when they point where I could have been better, that’s part of the system. The accusation of “mock outrage” is a bit harsh given how highly I value the honesty/integrity/accuracy of the political discussion but I will always be happy to explain/clarify my position on that.

I guess the issue is slightly confused by the fact that I don’t think criticising Woodsey’s posts/behaviour has much to do with politics and so it shouldn’t necessarily be subject to the same standards, maybe I’m wrong. If anyone has 3 minutes to read the last 4 pages of Woodsey’s posts please do.

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« Reply #16828 on: March 15, 2019, 06:55:24 AM »

I’m chaining Kuku to the middle of Trafalgar Square with a remain sign stuck on him if that happens 

I’m pretty relaxed about the threat directed at me.

I tend to avoid getting involved in the 'back and forth' you have with Woodsey et al, but the fact that you even refer to this comment as a threat is laughable.  I'm struggling to believe that you can't see it as a very obvious throwaway comment.

The subsequent reaction reads like the mock outrage I read on a daily basis from the Corbynista brigade on Twitter.  Owen Jones would no doubt be very proud.

I respect your view of course. I did go on to say that part of the reason I’m relaxed about it is because I don’t think it’s serious. I don’t feel outraged, if I gave that impression, it’s another one for the clumsy/poor use of language by me pile. I share your disapproval of mock outrage, same for any behaviour that deliberately distorts the debate.


In view of the number of times you claim the use of clumsy language etc, perhaps before you press send, you should take a deep breath, re read what you have written and ask yourself how it comes across. Either mean it or dont, but dont keep claiming the same excuse when the general forum members call you out.

I’m OK with the current method/system. I’m grateful to Doobs/Sherrif when they point where I could have been better, that’s part of the system. The accusation of “mock outrage” is a bit harsh given how highly I value the honesty/integrity/accuracy of the political discussion but I will always be happy to explain/clarify my position on that.

I guess the issue is slightly confused by the fact that I don’t think criticising Woodsey’s posts/behaviour has much to do with politics and so it shouldn’t necessarily be subject to the same standards, maybe I’m wrong. If anyone has 3 minutes to read the last 4 pages of Woodsey’s posts please do.


Stop being such a drama queen ffs.....
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« Reply #16829 on: March 15, 2019, 07:01:16 AM »

I’m chaining Kuku to the middle of Trafalgar Square with a remain sign stuck on him if that happens 

I’m pretty relaxed about the threat directed at me.

I tend to avoid getting involved in the 'back and forth' you have with Woodsey et al, but the fact that you even refer to this comment as a threat is laughable.  I'm struggling to believe that you can't see it as a very obvious throwaway comment.

The subsequent reaction reads like the mock outrage I read on a daily basis from the Corbynista brigade on Twitter.  Owen Jones would no doubt be very proud.

I respect your view of course. I did go on to say that part of the reason I’m relaxed about it is because I don’t think it’s serious. I don’t feel outraged, if I gave that impression, it’s another one for the clumsy/poor use of language by me pile. I share your disapproval of mock outrage, same for any behaviour that deliberately distorts the debate.


In view of the number of times you claim the use of clumsy language etc, perhaps before you press send, you should take a deep breath, re read what you have written and ask yourself how it comes across. Either mean it or dont, but dont keep claiming the same excuse when the general forum members call you out.

I’m OK with the current method/system. I’m grateful to Doobs/Sherrif when they point where I could have been better, that’s part of the system. The accusation of “mock outrage” is a bit harsh given how highly I value the honesty/integrity/accuracy of the political discussion but I will always be happy to explain/clarify my position on that.

I guess the issue is slightly confused by the fact that I don’t think criticising Woodsey’s posts/behaviour has much to do with politics and so it shouldn’t necessarily be subject to the same standards, maybe I’m wrong. If anyone has 3 minutes to read the last 4 pages of Woodsey’s posts please do.


Stop being such a drama queen ffs.....

Yeah, it’s a fair enough shout, that was all a bit serious. Have a good day all and gl to everyone for Cheltenham, I used to take the whole week off work, this year I haven’t had time to watch a single race :-(.
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