The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

More Newsnight

“Experts we’ve spoken to say that in a worst case scenario up to 45 thousand dairy cattle could be culled in the event of a no-deal Brexit.”

UK Correspondent  says “culling is very real prospect” and could happen within weeks of the UK leaving the EU

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1159219396713181185?s=20

[TightEnd]

Pizza chain Domino's has spent £7 million ($8.5 million) to stockpile imported ingredients that might not be available if Britain crashes out of the European Union

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/06/business/dominos-stockpiling-ingredients-gbr-intl-scli/index.html


Perhaps it might be said they are covering their bases?

[TightEnd]

This autumn, politics is going to be dominated by two very different men both called Dominic, as the battle for Brexit draws closer to the 31 October deadline

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/foreign-affairs/brexit/analysis/105805/analysis-battle-between-two-dominics-lies-heart

[BigAdz]

Pizza chain Domino's has spent £7 million ($8.5 million) to stockpile imported ingredients that might not be available if Britain crashes out of the European Union

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/06/business/dominos-stockpiling-ingredients-gbr-intl-scli/index.html


Perhaps it might be said they are covering their bases?

Yep, give you that one! With a cheesy grin, of course....

[MANTIS01]

More Newsnight

“Experts we’ve spoken to say that in a worst case scenario up to 45 thousand dairy cattle could be culled in the event of a no-deal Brexit.”

UK Correspondent  says “culling is very real prospect” and could happen within weeks of the UK leaving the EU

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1159219396713181185?s=20

Expert Farmer: Up to 45,000 cows could be slaughtered

Interviewer: Are you planning to slaughter any cows?

Expert Farmer: No

[RED-DOG]

I used to love this thread. I still can't help reading it every day, but now it depresses me. It seems like a microcosm of everything that's wrong with the country.

[Pokerpops]

More Newsnight

“Experts we’ve spoken to say that in a worst case scenario up to 45 thousand dairy cattle could be culled in the event of a no-deal Brexit.”

UK Correspondent  says “culling is very real prospect” and could happen within weeks of the UK leaving the EU

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1159219396713181185?s=20

Expert Farmer: Up to 45,000 cows could be slaughtered

Interviewer: Are you planning to slaughter any cows?

Expert Farmer: No

There are 1.9MM dairy cows in the UK. The cull would reduce that by 2.4%

https://dairy.ahdb.org.uk/market-information/farming-data/cow-numbers/eu-cow-numbers/#.XUwHVhrTWf0

[kukushkin88]

More Newsnight

“Experts we’ve spoken to say that in a worst case scenario up to 45 thousand dairy cattle could be culled in the event of a no-deal Brexit.”

UK Correspondent  says “culling is very real prospect” and could happen within weeks of the UK leaving the EU

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1159219396713181185?s=20

Expert Farmer: Up to 45,000 cows could be slaughtered

Interviewer: Are you planning to slaughter any cows?

Expert Farmer: No

There are 1.9MM dairy cows in the UK. The cull would reduce that by 2.4%

https://dairy.ahdb.org.uk/market-information/farming-data/cow-numbers/eu-cow-numbers/#.XUwHVhrTWf0

The relevant figure is this instance though is the 310,700 dairy cows in NI. The proposed cull is a huge dent in that number.

On the Mantis point, Robert Goodwill doesn’t have anything to do with the need for NI farmers to cull their cattle. His opinion is entirely worthless, the only people whose view counts at all is the farmers who will need to carry out the cull. They may feel there’s a benefit to lying to apply leverage away from ‘no deal’, which will devastate their business, we don’t have any insight on that.

[MANTIS01]

I accept that the only opinion that matters is the farmers who will carry out the cull

Can anybody provide a link to the names of those farmers and/or the culling schedule?

[kukushkin88]

I accept that the only opinion that matters is the farmers who will carry out the cull

Can anybody provide a link to the names of those farmers and/or the culling schedule?

Back to not being able to tell if you’re trying to be serious. Why would the names of the farmers ever be made public? Why would they publish a culling schedule?

Most likely scenario is still that at some stage Boris realises the EU won’t back down, realises Cummings is a bit of a psycho and has led him astray, soils himself and begs for another extension, then we have a GE. (As discussed, it’s better for him politically if parliament blocks no deal (likely) or the EU backs down (unlikely imo).

[Jon MW]

.... (As discussed, it’s better for him politically if parliament blocks no deal (likely) or the EU backs down (unlikely imo).

Johnson's strategy could be to push ahead with no deal no matter what then either win the General Election because he delivered on Brexit (and blame Europe for the subsequent recession); or lose the General Election but win the one after that after blaming Labour for the recession.

[MANTIS01]

Merely putting focus on the speculative nature of this rhetoric

There will be food shortages and panic but actually when pressed same expert says business is nimble, solutions found, collaborative efforts so in fact no need for panic

There will be mass culling but actually which farmer is committed to planning for culling? Nobody is because solutions will be found etc Yet we say it’s only the farmer’s actions that’s credible

Hasn’t it been interesting how negative speculation has huge traction but when people talk about optimism, opportunity and the collaborative solutions that is going to be actual reality it’s all fantasy, unicorns and fairytales

The tremendous self doubt has been a huge millstone from the start imo. It’s a cancer that’s plagued ever aspect of negotiations and planning. This schizz is getting real so time to start dealing in facts and real planning. Not worst case stories if business wasn’t nimble and there are no solutions and no collaborative efforts were made and no other trade deals completed and we all sat there just wah wah wahing

[kukushkin88]

Northern Irish dairy farmers say they’ll have to cull ~15% of dairy cattle in a no deal scenario, they provide absolutely sound reasons for why, you call it speculative rhetoric.

The total asshat of a PM bleats some vague (laughably called optimistic) nonsense about everything being fine, we know this contradicts all of the governments own analysis, you think it’s great.

[MANTIS01]

tbf it’s very amazing how project fear started with predicted meltdown of civilised society, no medicine or food, panicked people running into sea...

...and now it’s some dairy farmers in NI might need to cull up to 15% of cows

[kukushkin88]

tbf it’s very amazing how project fear started with predicted meltdown of civilised society, no medicine or food, panicked people running into sea...

...and now it’s some dairy farmers in NI might need to cull up to 15% of cows

That’s just bollocks though isn’t. The potential worst case was presented and work has been done to mitigate against it ever since, yet still they say it will be catastrophic. The NI dairy farmer’s having their industry destroyed is a tiny drop in the ocean.