The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[neeko]

No 10 not backing down. in response to that

If the EU just didn’t say anything, then Mr Johnson and his govt would be screwed, as their entire playbook is to complain about the last thing the EU said, (which is exactly the same as the previous things that have said as they are constrained by treaty and law, which is a flaw and a virtue)

[aaron1867]

Your bias in this thread Tighty is ridic. If you’re not posting anti-Brexit stuff, you’re posting about MP’s (Boris & co) who are pushing no deal Brexit.

Got to have some sort of attempt at balance surely

If you disagree with the content he’s quoting, feel free to find sources that counter it.  Good luck finding it.

I don't disagree with the content - I disagree with pushing the remain links all the time. If it's not that, then its overage that is against brexit supporters, etc

[kukushkin88]

Your bias in this thread Tighty is ridic. If you’re not posting anti-Brexit stuff, you’re posting about MP’s (Boris & co) who are pushing no deal Brexit.

Got to have some sort of attempt at balance surely

If you disagree with the content he’s quoting, feel free to find sources that counter it.  Good luck finding it.

I don't disagree with the content - I disagree with pushing the remain links all the time. If it's not that, then its overage that is against brexit supporters, etc

Do your rules about needing to be balanced apply to you as well?

[Marky147]

Your bias in this thread Tighty is ridic. If you’re not posting anti-Brexit stuff, you’re posting about MP’s (Boris & co) who are pushing no deal Brexit.

Got to have some sort of attempt at balance surely

If you disagree with the content he’s quoting, feel free to find sources that counter it.  Good luck finding it.

I don't disagree with the content - I disagree with pushing the remain links all the time. If it's not that, then its overage that is against brexit supporters, etc

Do your rules about needing to be balanced apply to you as well?

[nirvana]

Your bias in this thread Tighty is ridic. If you’re not posting anti-Brexit stuff, you’re posting about MP’s (Boris & co) who are pushing no deal Brexit.

Got to have some sort of attempt at balance surely

If you disagree with the content he’s quoting, feel free to find sources that counter it.  Good luck finding it.

I don't disagree with the content - I disagree with pushing the remain links all the time. If it's not that, then its overage that is against brexit supporters, etc

So North American, no sense of irony. Its like rayeyayn...

[MANTIS01]

If the backstop was originally a UK proposal...

...And not imposing one is an impossibility for the EU...

What exactly was the EU’s ‘workable’ proposal before we suggested the backstop solution??

[Marty719]

If the backstop was originally a UK proposal...

...And not imposing one is an impossibility for the EU...

What exactly was the EU’s ‘workable’ proposal before we suggested the backstop solution??

Trade border in the Irish Sea.  DUP claimed it was unacceptable. 

[TightEnd]

 Rough history:

1. UK and EU tentatively agreed NI-only backstop
2. DUP and others kicked off here.
3. UK asked for UK-wide backstop
4. EU accepted this – and regarded it as a *huge* concession.
5 UK now doesn't want backstop

6 ?

[MANTIS01]

So really EU have never proposed a solution that has been agreeable...

Original proposal not acceptable to DUP
Amendment not voted through and now not acceptable to current govt
not prepared to reconsider

Don’t know what Boris is supposed to do other than No Deal it really

[Pokerpops]

Your bias in this thread Tighty is ridic. If you’re not posting anti-Brexit stuff, you’re posting about MP’s (Boris & co) who are pushing no deal Brexit.

Got to have some sort of attempt at balance surely

At least Tighty posts links rather than the anecdotal tosh that you regurgitate to support your own take on the situation.

[Woodsey]

I see labour have their finger on the pulse of the nation again 

‘Labour commits to total ban on keeping monkeys as pets. Plan to prevent 5,000 primates being caged in UK comes ahead of possible general election’

[RED-DOG]

I see labour have their finger on the pulse of the nation again 

‘Labour commits to total ban on keeping monkeys as pets. Plan to prevent 5,000 primates being caged in UK comes ahead of possible general election’

What a howler. He didn't even wait until after the summer rhesus.

[Doobs]

So really EU have never proposed a solution that has been agreeable...

Original proposal not acceptable to DUP
Amendment not voted through and now not acceptable to current govt
not prepared to reconsider

Don’t know what Boris is supposed to do other than No Deal it really

Tell the DUP to get lost and speak to the opposition?   

Given the backstop has a big majority in Northern Ireland anything else will be ARMAGEDDON for democracy. smiley.

[booder]

I see labour have their finger on the pulse of the nation again 

‘Labour commits to total ban on keeping monkeys as pets. Plan to prevent 5,000 primates being caged in UK comes ahead of possible general election’

What a howler. He didn't even wait until after the summer rhesus.

That's very good.

[BigAdz]

Boris off to Hamburg today where we do miliions of £s of trading.

In a BBC interview(so I am wary of the people selected), local Hamburg traders, were stating the EU had done enough to help the UK in negotiations(not sure what they have done to make these people feel this way, the people I speak to abroad, are sorry to see us go, but understand it, and feel we have been harshly treated-hence my initial concern over the impartiality of those interviewed).

However, what was clear was that the Hamburg folk interviewed were going to have to put up prices, go through a real tough time adjusting,and still have to put up with the demands of the EU.

I may well have been wrong(with this small cross section at least) about how those losing our trade will feel, but on the other side, they are looking to face tough times and are facing it with a positive attitude, none of your wah wah attitude we see from so many, who can't rise to the challenge, as they seem able to do.