The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[DaveShoelace]

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BeLEAVE and ROO BEHAVE in the same front page?

That's swung it for me

[TightEnd]

58% of LEAVE support in ICM phone poll comes from C2DEs compared with 36% of REMAIN support

one commentary i saw said, can't find the link now but this is more or less word for word "Labour in particular and politicians in general have ignored the speed of immigration and the issues it poses for at least 20 years. that is now coming home to roost in this vote. In the societal areas where people are most affected by globalisation and mobility of labour majorities for leave in polling are large"   

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[TightEnd]

revolution ferments on the IOW. In the bars of Sandwich, Ventnor and Ryde they talk of nothing else

[arbboy]

Go on Stoke!!!!  Love how stoke is put in joint 2nd favs!  No jobs in Stoke to protect!

Leave is what poker players often call a 'flip' in the betfair markets now.  Leave AK off v Remain QQ.  The 'lol' poker players 57.5/42.5% 'flip'.

[DungBeetle]

The Remain campaign really have butchered this.  We're gonna end up out of the EU because they couldn't resist looking down their noses at the Brexit camp.  The "we know best and by the way you're probably xenophobic" comes across in interviews, debates and internet forums.

[redsimon]

In relation to the highest leave vote odds you mentioned, do you have the odds for the area where UKIP have their MP?  Who is offering  the prices?

[TightEnd]

In relation to the highest leave vote odds you mentioned, do you have the odds for the area where UKIP have their MP?  Who is offering  the prices?

Ladbrokes prices

[nirvana]

Foments

[MANTIS01]

Is there a scenario where the EU doesn't survive Brexit? I mean Germans will surely tire of dishing out the euros to countries like Greece who don't appear to give much of a shit. If Britain does rather well, EU suffers continued financial and migration pressure perhaps the foundations crumble?

[arbboy]

Is there a scenario where the EU doesn't survive Brexit? I mean Germans will surely tire of dishing out the euros to countries like Greece who don't appear to give much of a shit. If Britain does rather well, EU suffers continued financial and migration pressure perhaps the foundations crumble?

the EU is very much like ipoker was a few years ago.  Three or four major companies provide all the liquidity and losing players for the site to function such as Whill, betfair, bet365 and paddy.   These are similar to England, German, France etc in the EU.   Then all the tiny sites signed up wanting to offer players great rake back deals to iron out this easy cash which the big boys spent fortunes in marketing spend to attract.  I poker got pissed off with this and brought in a two tier system because the big boys got sick of being picked off effectively by the bum hunters who just took took took from the ecosystem and added little back as they only brought winning players to the site.

Ipoker and the big boys got pissed off with this and then allowed the big boys to have their own ipoker skin where these little fish couldn't come and pick them off.  Something similar could easily happen in the EU once one of the big boys leaves surely?

[Woodsey]

lol funny analogy, some truth in that too....

[arbboy]

Always found it insane how the EU doesn't have a two tier structure (div 1 and div 2 depending what you are bringing to the table and taking off the table).  You don't win the conference and get promoted straight into the EPL in football.  Why should you mix it with the super heavyweights as a budget country as soon as you enter the EU?  Why shouldn't you have to prove your financial credibility over a number of 'seasons' before you get promoted to the big time?

[TightEnd]

there was a heck of a lot going on yesterday

i am going to stick all the links and images up for discussion

[TightEnd]

The Leave campaign has never looked closer to victory, writes george eaton http://bit.ly/1OlImDp

[TightEnd]

Alan Johnson

"it only takes 0.6% fall in GDP to wipe out £8bn we would no longer pay to EU"

but are voters listening?