The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[DMorgan]

Very good article, thanks for posting

[mulhuzz]

Very good article, thanks for posting

[MintTrav]

Some of the support for Trident is purely about jobs and supporting an existing industry. I can understand people who support it from a defence viewpoint. I think they are totally wrong, but I understand their argument. But I think those who want to give a huge amount of public money away to an industry just because it exists and employs people, without taking account of what that industry does, should be run out of town. The statements from union leaders in this vein last week were reprehensible.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/01/trident-corbyn-shadow-cabinet-labour

[Woodsey]

Cue bun fight  

Theresa May: Cohesion 'impossible' with high migration

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34450887

[horseplayer]

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/telegraph-censured-over-significantly-misleading-front-page-anti-semitism-claim-against-jeremy

Good old torygraph

[Doobs]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/08/hate-tories-conservatives-dominance-pointless-protest

Corbyn also the most unpopular new opposition leader for a generation or two.

This isn't going well. 

[DMorgan]

The race would be so much more interesting if he dropped all this Trident stuff and gave himself a snowballs chance

[ripple11]

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2015/10/month-what-jeremy-corbyn-effect

So what can we conclude about Labour’s electability under Corbyn? We should all be cautious before reaching any firm conclusions. The data is still fragmented, patchy and scarce. But from what we do know, and what we can already see, only one judgement is possible: Labour has somehow found the best possible way to concentrate votes and strength where it cannot use them or does not need them, and give ground where it desperately needs to make it up. If it continues on the path it has set itself, the very early evidence suggests that Labour is going to be mauled in 2020, perhaps very badly.


Even with such a large mandate....can he really get to 2020 as leader?

[RickBFA]

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2015/10/month-what-jeremy-corbyn-effect

So what can we conclude about Labour’s electability under Corbyn? We should all be cautious before reaching any firm conclusions. The data is still fragmented, patchy and scarce. But from what we do know, and what we can already see, only one judgement is possible: Labour has somehow found the best possible way to concentrate votes and strength where it cannot use them or does not need them, and give ground where it desperately needs to make it up. If it continues on the path it has set itself, the very early evidence suggests that Labour is going to be mauled in 2020, perhaps very badly.


Even with such a large mandate....can he really get to 2020 as leader?

I'm sure the party hierarchy and MP's will want to ditch him well before the election but when he has the support of the membership its going to be more difficult to get rid.

[TightEnd]

Ludicrous

[mulhuzz]

Ludicrous

She's a fucking balloon.

[MintTrav]

So there was plenty of leadership positioning already on display at the Tory conference. Theresa May was the only household name to seriously step out of line, so far as I am aware, but she has been pushing the anti-immigration line for some time, as noted by Vince Cable, who wrote about how Cameron and Osborne are unable to keep her under control on this (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/05/vince-cable-tories-collectively-could-be-appalling). Cameron made it clear that he disagreed with her, but won't be happy that he had to impose himself so soon after an election win. Cameron tried to invade Labour territory, sounding quite progressive at times. Osborne unveiled the most radical policy, decentralising business rates to Councils and the biggest coup, snatching Adonis from Labour, but still seemed overshadowed by Boris. The main memory will be how a few of them overcooked the body language coaching.

Mr Bean looking Prime Ministerial as ever.

[DaveShoelace]

Mr Bean looking Prime Ministerial as ever.

He is kinda like the Tory version of Gordon Brown, ie. the socially awkward heir apparant.

[George2Loose]

It's gonna be Boris surely?

[kukushkin88]

It's gonna be Boris surely?

Almost certain to be Osborne, barring serious economic collapse, fingers crossed.