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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
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Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
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« Reply #6900 on: December 16, 2016, 10:07:12 AM »

We're heading for a hard Brexit,

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/12/politicians-britain-and-eu-are-both-heading-hardest-brexits
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« Reply #6901 on: December 16, 2016, 10:08:00 AM »

Leaked Brexit guidelines from EUCO

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« Reply #6902 on: December 16, 2016, 10:08:51 AM »

David Davis vows no compromise on immigration in Brexit talks - http://bit.ly/2gNOhnR
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« Reply #6903 on: December 16, 2016, 10:09:27 AM »

This technicality could hold up a Brexit deal for years. http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/12/technicality-uk-once-loved-could-hold-brexit-deal-years
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« Reply #6904 on: December 17, 2016, 10:34:52 AM »

from YouGov.

What LEAVE voters think caused REMAIN ones to vote as they did

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What REMAIN voters think caused LEAVE ones to vote as they did

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« Reply #6905 on: December 17, 2016, 10:36:28 AM »

Govt gathering info on numbers of EU migrants UK need to plug skills gaps after Brexit.

Answer; lots

http://news.sky.com/story/government-working-to-avoid-labour-shortages-post-brexit-10697547
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« Reply #6906 on: December 17, 2016, 11:47:16 AM »

from YouGov.

What LEAVE voters think caused REMAIN ones to vote as they did

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What REMAIN voters think caused LEAVE ones to vote as they did

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Both the above images are embarrassing for both sides. How many people were asked? How do no Remainers mention the economy? How is that possible? I guess its easy to ascribe your opposition with certain ideals instead of looking for the root cause. Bit of a loltastic, divisive piece of media that doesn't really have any value the more I think about it.   
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« Reply #6907 on: December 18, 2016, 12:24:11 PM »

Public Brexit preference:

Hard Brexit: 35%
Soft Brexit: 41%
No preference: 8%
via Opinium / 13 - 16 Dec)

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/12/17/poll-alert-polling-matters-opinium-voters-back-soft-brexit-but-reject-second-referendum-even-if-the-economy-worsens/




i get up every sunday for Marr, which makes me both old and dull and i must say that Liam Fox strikes the fear of wotsits into me as a trade negotiator. an intellectual he is not
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« Reply #6908 on: December 18, 2016, 04:50:48 PM »

Public Brexit preference:

Hard Brexit: 35%
Soft Brexit: 41%
No preference: 8%
via Opinium / 13 - 16 Dec)

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/12/17/poll-alert-polling-matters-opinium-voters-back-soft-brexit-but-reject-second-referendum-even-if-the-economy-worsens/




i get up every sunday for Marr, which makes me both old and dull and i must say that Liam Fox strikes the fear of wotsits into me as a trade negotiator. an intellectual he is not

I guess you are smarter than a medical school graduate and ex practising doctor then...
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« Reply #6909 on: December 18, 2016, 05:01:01 PM »

with a couple of degrees in economics, and judging on his performance this morning, quite possibly. unless you asking me to diagnose a medical problem.

watch Marr on iplayer and tell me you were impressed.....very lucky man, a disgraced ex-minister given another shot like this
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« Reply #6910 on: December 18, 2016, 05:05:32 PM »

with a couple of degrees in economics, and judging on his performance this morning, quite possibly. unless you asking me to diagnose a medical problem.

watch Marr on iplayer and tell me you were impressed.....very lucky man, a disgraced ex-minister given another shot like this

I haven't and don't need to watch it Richard (and I won't right now because I'm on hols). I get you don't agree with him, but suggesting he is not intelligent is you falling into the the 'people who don't agree with me' are thick, you are better than that mate....
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« Reply #6911 on: December 18, 2016, 05:10:37 PM »

with a couple of degrees in economics, and judging on his performance this morning, quite possibly. unless you asking me to diagnose a medical problem.

watch Marr on iplayer and tell me you were impressed.....very lucky man, a disgraced ex-minister given another shot like this

I haven't and don't need to watch it Richard (and I won't right now because I'm on hols). I get you don't agree with him, but suggesting he is not intelligent is you falling into the the 'people who don't agree with me' are thick, you are better than that mate....

if you won't even watch the interview to see what i mean, then what's the point of commenting?

even accepting that Boris acts like a buffoon sometimes and puts his foot in it, Fox is by far the least impressive of the three Brexiteers appointed by May

come back to me when you have something solid to counter that view with.
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« Reply #6912 on: December 18, 2016, 05:17:44 PM »

with a couple of degrees in economics, and judging on his performance this morning, quite possibly. unless you asking me to diagnose a medical problem.

watch Marr on iplayer and tell me you were impressed.....very lucky man, a disgraced ex-minister given another shot like this

I haven't and don't need to watch it Richard (and I won't right now because I'm on hols). I get you don't agree with him, but suggesting he is not intelligent is you falling into the the 'people who don't agree with me' are thick, you are better than that mate....

if you won't even watch the interview to see what i mean, then what's the point of commenting?

even accepting that Boris acts like a buffoon sometimes and puts his foot in it, Fox is by far the least impressive of the three Brexiteers appointed by May

come back to me when you have something solid to counter that view with.

Ok I've tried to look but can't see a quick way of viewing because not in the uk.

So do you think an unintelligent person can ace their A levels to get onto a medicine course, pass a medical degree and then become a practising GP?

Once again I accept you don't like some opinions or people's personas or in Liam Fox's case having the personality of a wet lettuce, that doesn't make him unintelligent though....
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« Reply #6913 on: December 18, 2016, 05:20:42 PM »

i said "an intellectual he is not"

i stand by my view.

he can be intelligent without being intellectual (and even though i am not implying this for Dr Fox, pass plenty of exams without having much intelligence, depending on memory, learning skills and the exam format)
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« Reply #6914 on: December 18, 2016, 05:30:45 PM »

i said "an intellectual he is not"

i stand by my view.

he can be intelligent without being intellectual (and even though i am not implying this for Dr Fox, pass plenty of exams without having much intelligence, depending on memory, learning skills and the exam format)

I aspire to be you then rather than many of the very wealthy docs that runs rings around me on occasion despite being educated the MA level and knowing my medicines inside out......good luck.
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