The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

"Scotland gone, Wales going: Will be hard for Labour to win a UK-wide majority without their traditional Celtic edge"

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/04/can-labour-become-truly-national-party/

[TightEnd]

latest seat spreads

[TightEnd]

Useful reminder from David Cowling on what happened to Labour under Michael Foot during the 1983 campaign - things got worse - deja vu

[TightEnd]

NEW Westminster voting intentions:

CON: 48% (+2)
LAB: 27% (+2)
LDEM: 10% (-1)
UKIP: 7% (-1)
GRN: 3% (-1)

(ICM for Guardian, 21-24 April)

[TightEnd]

Con 390, Lab 181, LD 9, SNP 47, Others 23;

Con majority 130.

Stephen D Fisher projection from GB & Scotland polls

https://electionsetc.com/2017/04/24/seats-projections-from-gb-and-scottish-polls-combined/

[TightEnd]

((Dan Hodges)))‏Verified account @DPJHodges

Labour's defence policy: "Trident is vital for the defence of the UK. We will never use Trident in any circumstances. Vote Labour".

(((Dan Hodges)))‏Verified account @DPJHodges

Actually, Labour - incredibly - has a worse policy on defence than it did in 1983. At last in 1983 it was intellectually consistent.

[DaveShoelace]

look at the final line

amazing really

Vote Tory for a fairer society: Survation for Mail on Sunday

Not really amazing.

Voting for Brexit proved people were stupid. This just confirms it.

We are all doomed.

For more impartial political opinions contact Keith @ I will insult everybody .com  .

Even members of the Conservative Party would admit that "promoting a fairer society" was not on their list of policies or ambitions.

Hence people who think that in power, the Tories would provide a fairer society are incapable of critical thinking.

[TightEnd]

Tectonic plates of Scottish politics are moving again, this time in the Tories' favour

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15241567.David_Torrance__Tectonic_plates_of_Scottish_politics_are_moving_again__this_time_in_the_Tories__favour/

[TightEnd]

a leaked script for Labour MPs to use in the campaign

interestingly,no mention of Corbyn by name and no mention of how any pledges will be funded

Click to see full-size image.

[Ironside]

a leaked script for Labour MPs to use in the campaign

interestingly,no mention of Corbyn by name and no mention of how any pledges will be funded

Click to see full-size image.

surely thats a joke?

[TightEnd]

a leaked script for Labour MPs to use in the campaign

interestingly,no mention of Corbyn by name and no mention of how any pledges will be funded

Click to see full-size image.

surely thats a joke?

No

what do you find about it that is a joke?

[Doobs]

a leaked script for Labour MPs to use in the campaign

interestingly,no mention of Corbyn by name and no mention of how any pledges will be funded

Click to see full-size image.

surely thats a joke?

No

what do you find about it that is a joke?

To be fair they have priced in the free meals. 

Don't forget, 4 more bank holidays when the weather is shit.

Will be great to work away and have to come back and celebrate St Davids Day on a Wednesday in the rain. 

Maybe we will be ultra productive in the other days that will mean they don't have to raise the tax rates?   Who came up with that ffs?

[TightEnd]

Pretty astonishing graph from YouGov on UK voter demographics. Age is the key dividing line in this election

and we have a starkly ageing population as baby boomers reach retirement.

Click to see full-size image.

[Ironside]

£10 living wage joke
£500 billion into a bank to fund investment joke
NHS give them what they need joke
new houses joke

this would all be great to see happen but not a chance in hell of it happening  without crippling taxes

[Doobs]

£10 living wage joke
£500 billion into a bank to fund investment joke
NHS give them what they need joke
new houses joke

this would all be great to see happen but not a chance in hell of it happening  without crippling taxes

Surely building council/affordable houses is easy enough, particularly if you have a lot of land or control of it/

The ever inflating NHS budget is going to be a big concern going forward, as we all get older, but if we have enough money to increase ISA limits and chop corporation tax, then surely it is possible to get over the current issues?

I do agree on the bank though.  We have a National bank already, and that could borrow £500bn and the politicians could spend it on infrastructure if it was sensible.  Maybe even on council houses?

The triple lock on pensions seems like something that should be abandoned.  Freedom to spend appropriately seems a better idea. 

Giving kids warm meals at lunch was a great idea, and I would expand that.  It seems better than worrying about whether class sizes are 31 or 30.  I dare say a lot of these are the result of appeals and not part of a policy of encouraging classs sizes to get bigger.  Feck free schools and grammar schools obviously.

4 new bank holidays is just crazy.  I suspect more Nationalism is just what we don't need right now, and the end result will be that we end up getting forced in to holidays when we don't want them rather than when we do.