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« Reply #180 on: September 15, 2015, 10:45:25 AM »

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« Reply #181 on: September 15, 2015, 05:18:38 PM »

@Kevin_Maguire 2h2 hours ago

Corbyn's decent, common sense, simply explained politics is a threat to rivals. One of reasons enemies attack him ferociously
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« Reply #182 on: September 15, 2015, 05:21:44 PM »

@Kevin_Maguire 2h2 hours ago

Corbyn's decent, common sense, simply explained politics is a threat to rivals. One of reasons enemies attack him ferociously

lol no its not, its what the leftie journos of which the horrendous maguire is one, want to think

i know you will disagree with this, which is fine, but not singing the national anthem etc just gives the press ammo to go at him and they will do for the next 3 years

the silence of the PLP when corbyn went in to speak to them for the first time yesterday spoke volumes
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« Reply #183 on: September 15, 2015, 06:21:39 PM »

@Kevin_Maguire 2h2 hours ago

Corbyn's decent, common sense, simply explained politics is a threat to rivals. One of reasons enemies attack him ferociously

lol no its not, its what the leftie journos of which the horrendous maguire is one, want to think

i know you will disagree with this, which is fine, but not singing the national anthem etc just gives the press ammo to go at him and they will do for the next 3 years

the silence of the PLP when corbyn went in to speak to them for the first time yesterday spoke volumes

I agree Tighty. How on earth will Corbyn keep the Labour Party together when there are so many issues where his MP's simply have the total opposite view to his?

He'll be a political genius if he can get through it and the Labour Party have any electoral credibility.
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« Reply #184 on: September 15, 2015, 06:30:26 PM »

Notdoing a top button up

And "stealing ex serviceman sandwiches" (actually was given them long after they had all left)

The best two non stories I have seen today.

Turns out some of these hacks despise people who don't give them benile news bites every 10 minutes.
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« Reply #185 on: September 15, 2015, 07:17:46 PM »

@Kevin_Maguire 2h2 hours ago

Corbyn's decent, common sense, simply explained politics is a threat to rivals. One of reasons enemies attack him ferociously

lol no its not, its what the leftie journos of which the horrendous maguire is one, want to think

i know you will disagree with this, which is fine, but not singing the national anthem etc just gives the press ammo to go at him and they will do for the next 3 years

the silence of the PLP when corbyn went in to speak to them for the first time yesterday spoke volumes

Why would an atheist republican sing the National Anthem?

I haven't sung it at any stage of my adult life.

A complete non story.
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« Reply #186 on: September 15, 2015, 07:24:49 PM »

@Kevin_Maguire 2h2 hours ago

Corbyn's decent, common sense, simply explained politics is a threat to rivals. One of reasons enemies attack him ferociously

lol no its not, its what the leftie journos of which the horrendous maguire is one, want to think

i know you will disagree with this, which is fine, but not singing the national anthem etc just gives the press ammo to go at him and they will do for the next 3 years

the silence of the PLP when corbyn went in to speak to them for the first time yesterday spoke volumes

Why would an atheist republican sing the National Anthem?

I haven't sung it at any stage of my adult life.

A complete non story.

not if you believe republicans shouldn't be prime ministers and you are a supporter of the monarchy and the realm, as i would think the vast majority of the English electorate would be.

atheism and christianity and other religions i am less bothered about

and personally, wearing non matching jacket and trousers to the solemn event jarred too. laugh please, because i know you'll think i'm ridiculous, but i am sure many people will think the same way
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« Reply #187 on: September 15, 2015, 07:31:26 PM »

funnily enough there is a huge divide between the centre to right and right wing broadsheets and posters on blonde

this made me chuckle, suspect it will tilt a few

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« Reply #188 on: September 15, 2015, 07:56:41 PM »

@Kevin_Maguire 2h2 hours ago

Corbyn's decent, common sense, simply explained politics is a threat to rivals. One of reasons enemies attack him ferociously

lol no its not, its what the leftie journos of which the horrendous maguire is one, want to think

i know you will disagree with this, which is fine, but not singing the national anthem etc just gives the press ammo to go at him and they will do for the next 3 years

the silence of the PLP when corbyn went in to speak to them for the first time yesterday spoke volumes

Why would an atheist republican sing the National Anthem?

I haven't sung it at any stage of my adult life.

A complete non story.

not if you believe republicans shouldn't be prime ministers and you are a supporter of the monarchy and the realm, as i would think the vast majority of the English electorate would be.

atheism and christianity and other religions i am less bothered about

and personally, wearing non matching jacket and trousers to the solemn event jarred too. laugh please, because i know you'll think i'm ridiculous, but i am sure many people will think the same way

He's already said he isn't persuing a republican agenda as Labour Party leader.

Which is worse, to sing the bloody anthem and be a hypocrite or keep a respectful silence while it drones on?

I prefer my politicians to be honest and true to their beliefs.
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« Reply #189 on: September 15, 2015, 07:58:15 PM »

And on the front page of one the rags today it shrilled disbelif that a Vegan is shadown secretary for farming.

Pretty sure she won't be banning anyone from eating meat if she took the office in government.

Such bollocks.
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« Reply #190 on: September 15, 2015, 08:01:09 PM »

And on the front page of one the rags today it shrilled disbelif that a Vegan is shadown secretary for farming.

Pretty sure she won't be banning anyone from eating meat if she took the office in government.

Such bollocks.

what would you think if you were a farmer? perhaps needing supportive government policies, or support with the Cap/eu when it comes to beef/pig/lamb prices? the vegan going to support your cause?

slightly different maybe
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« Reply #191 on: September 15, 2015, 08:02:40 PM »

And on the front page of one the rags today it shrilled disbelif that a Vegan is shadown secretary for farming.

Pretty sure she won't be banning anyone from eating meat if she took the office in government.

Such bollocks.

Of course it is, but it's also about how he'll be perceived by the electorate.

On the jacket thing - look, in the end he can wear what he likes, but would he dress like that to Auschwitz?

That's a very extreme example, of course it is, but it's about perception again. The event was solemn and he should dress appropriately.

If you don't learn to 'play the game' you end up on the sidelines forever.
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« Reply #192 on: September 15, 2015, 08:04:32 PM »

five minutes on google

"Labour’s new shadow farming minister is a vegan animal rights activist who believes cattle and sheep farming is ‘no longer sustainable’."

looks like a real vote winner appointment in rural constituencies, jezza
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« Reply #193 on: September 15, 2015, 08:04:56 PM »

And on the front page of one the rags today it shrilled disbelif that a Vegan is shadown secretary for farming.

Pretty sure she won't be banning anyone from eating meat if she took the office in government.

Such bollocks.

what would you think if you were a farmer? perhaps needing supportive government policies, or support with the Cap/eu when it comes to beef/pig/lamb prices? the vegan going to support your cause?

slightly different maybe

Loads of examples of that in current government though as well. That's not a 'Corbyns choice' issue, but wider. Eg equalities minister not supporting marriage for all because they firmly believe this isn't 2015.
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« Reply #194 on: September 15, 2015, 08:13:49 PM »

And on the front page of one the rags today it shrilled disbelif that a Vegan is shadown secretary for farming.

Pretty sure she won't be banning anyone from eating meat if she took the office in government.

Such bollocks.

what would you think if you were a farmer? perhaps needing supportive government policies, or support with the Cap/eu when it comes to beef/pig/lamb prices? the vegan going to support your cause?

slightly different maybe

My missus is a dairy and beef farmer and she is a vegetarian.
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