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« Reply #4875 on: July 06, 2016, 12:20:50 PM »

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« Reply #4876 on: July 06, 2016, 12:22:26 PM »

Chilcot Blair's biggest failures were to believe he could influence Bush & faith that Whitehouse had a post-invasion plan.
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« Reply #4877 on: July 06, 2016, 12:26:46 PM »

commentator quotes....

- Blair's justifications founder, one after another, as Chilcot goes in harder than almost anyone expected.

- Result of false case for war in Iraq & wrong intelligence: 200 UK dead, 150k Iraqs dead, 1m displaced

- Chilcot has complete pulled back the curtain. Desire for war, no plan, not enough resources, civil war was obvious, made UK less safe

- Minister of Defence didn't even know who was supposed to be sorting out equipment for UK soldiers in Iraq. Unbelievable.

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« Reply #4878 on: July 06, 2016, 12:28:21 PM »

Difficult to see how this could have been worse for Blair.
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« Reply #4879 on: July 06, 2016, 12:32:21 PM »

Difficult to see how this could have been worse for Blair.

His knob could fall off.
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« Reply #4880 on: July 06, 2016, 12:33:10 PM »

So what now for Blair, does this have any repercussions? I guess PMQs will be lively.
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« Reply #4881 on: July 06, 2016, 12:38:50 PM »

So what now for Blair, does this have any repercussions? I guess PMQs will be lively.

Corbyn will say Blair is a criminal (he was going to say that anyway whatever the report says)

Cameron will reply I was not PM, and anyway I have just resigned, it's not for me to do anything.

Corbyn has to be good, this is one big reason he has not resigned yet.
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« Reply #4882 on: July 06, 2016, 12:41:49 PM »

well if you didn't know it already, anyone who voted for iraq can never be leader of the labour party...

corbyn has hung on for this, so can let rip. it should embolden him and his support and leave the Labour PLP up a creek without a paddle if he stays as a result of it

expect lots of calls for the hague/war to be declared illegal etc. one for the new PM.....(sounds like a fun job...)
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« Reply #4883 on: July 06, 2016, 12:43:47 PM »

the executive summary of the executive summary

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the 2.3m words are in 12 font times new roman and when volumes are placed on top of each other are 6ft 1" tall.

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« Reply #4884 on: July 06, 2016, 12:46:25 PM »

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« Reply #4885 on: July 06, 2016, 12:48:08 PM »

a take....

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Both UK's pro-war and anti-war caucuses falling foul of Britain's imperial delusions.

People talking about "Blair" messing up Iraq. The United States would have gone in anyway.

The Blair government's real failure was in believing it could influence the States.

That failure was paid for in British lives. The global calamity would have happened anyway.
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« Reply #4886 on: July 06, 2016, 12:52:04 PM »

Blair statement

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« Reply #4887 on: July 06, 2016, 12:57:46 PM »

The brass balls of the man - saying he'll take full responsibility without exception or excuse then using the word nonetheless in the very next sentence
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« Reply #4888 on: July 06, 2016, 01:26:54 PM »

Worst foreign policy decision since second world war.

If you were a family member from one of the 179 soldiers who lost their lives you would take every action possible in the courts to bring him to book for his decisions.

He's wreaked the lives of so many families and his line until now of "no regrets" is a total disgrace.

He wanted his place in history, power got the better of him.
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« Reply #4889 on: July 06, 2016, 01:46:42 PM »

It seems Bliars reading off the report is different from just about everyone else. 

The world and it's granny knew that Saddam despite his madness kept a lid the hotbed that was the middle east.  He exercised much more control than the Brits and Yanks could ever do on terror.  The same can be said of Gadaffi. 
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