The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

Labour leadership contest on hold. Here's why both sides are confident they'll win if it comes:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/07/jeremy-corbyn-s-allies-believe-they-ll-win-again-because-their-opponents-haven-t

[DMorgan]

bit wary of putting more economics up, we know its going to be bad for a while and we know its not why people voted leave

I think thats mainly a funtion of the demogapric of this forum though

A chart that I'd like to see would be a plot of comfort level with short term economic pain vs current net worth

I would suggest that the number of posters here for whom 'short term economic pain' looks like dipping into savings and at worst getting a redundancy package far outweighs the number of posters for whom short term economic pain looks like struggling to make ends meet and at worst having to move back in with their parents/sign on.

[DMorgan]

Obv there are a lot of leave voters for whom not being table to move out of their parents house/signed on was already the case so they felt like they had nothing to lose, just highlighting how easy it is to brush off short term economic damage when you're fairly well insulated.

Once these figures stop being just numbers on screens in London and start becoming real job losses and cost of living rises as they always do I think that the national consensus on short term economic pain will be different

Reminds me of the Lehman bankruptcy when there was plenty of whooping and hollering and it was all fun and games as the news was packed with footage of bankers and traders emptying their desks and trudging home. Less so once it started to filter down.

[TightEnd]

May v leadsom then. Not that confident the lunatics won't elect the inexperienced hard righter but we are where we are

[DaveShoelace]

Cliffs on why she is a hard righter

I know she opposed gay marriage and was a brexit-er, anything else?

[TightEnd]

Will pop some stuff up later, on a mobile at the moment. Can Google nine reasons to be terrified of leadsom if you want light reading

[redsimon]

Gove got less votes in second round, who'd have guessed that?

[david3103]

Will pop some stuff up later, on a mobile at the moment. Can Google nine reasons to be terrified of leadsom if you want light reading

Do the members get a 'None of the Above' option?
May is every bit as frightening as Leadsom to me.

Cameron's legacy looks like being as poisonous as Blair's.

It may be naive to ask this, but exactly why did he resign? It surely hasn't helped the post-referendum situation for the country to have zero leadership at a time when it needed a genuine steady hand on the tiller and a stable political outlook.

So many Facebook posts about the moronic racists who voted to leave and so little said about the muppets who led us to this spot and then ran away.

[TightEnd]

Cameron went because he was remain and thought it wrong for someone who didn't believe in nrexit to then have to negotiate it. Fair enough really, his mistake was more having the referendum to solve a short term party problem and then the remain campaign being so terrible than resigning imo. A by-product of brexit was always likely to be a more right wing government with adverse consequences for many, at least until 2020.

[The Camel]

Cameron went because he was remain and thought it wrong for someone who didn't believe in nrexit to then have to negotiate it. Fair enough really, his mistake was more having the referendum to solve a short term party problem and then the remain campaign being so terrible than resigning imo. A by-product of brexit was always likely to be a more right wing government with adverse consequences for many, at least until 2020.

The local MP came to visit Jake's school last week.

One of the kids asked him why Cameron resigned.

He answered, "I wasn't expecting a question like that from a 9 or 10 year old. Why don't you ask why I wear the colour ties I do. I know the answer to that"

Guffaws all around.

[BigAdz]

Cliffs on why she is a hard righter

I know she opposed gay marriage and was a brexit-er, anything else?

Jesus. Got back from a trip to Belarus to ponder a worrying thought. It was bad enough finding the wife in a menstrual strop, only to hear we will have a woman PM next.

I fear for us all when you get Hilary, Teresa, Angela and ,Christine Legard in a room at the wrong time of the month together, discussing the world's problems.....

[TightEnd]

Cliffs on why she is a hard righter

I know she opposed gay marriage and was a brexit-er, anything else?

Jesus. Got back from a trip to Belarus to ponder a worrying thought. It was bad enough finding the wife in a menstrual strop, only to hear we will have a woman PM next.

I fear for us all when you get Hilary, Teresa, Angela and ,Christine Legard in a room at the wrong time of the month together, discussing the world's problems.....

is this serious? there is no smiley

this is 2016 not 1956!

[TightEnd]

For the first time in my life, I feel ashamed to be British says Matthew Parris in the new spectator

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/for-the-first-time-in-my-life-i-feel-ashamed-to-be-british/

[TightEnd]

the choice now facing the Tory party http://specc.ie/29vzyJF

[TightEnd]

reuters Sterling's post-Brexit fall is biggest G4 currency loss since Bretton Woods end in early 1970s

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-markets-sterling-idUKKCN0ZN1R0