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[TightEnd]

can someone help please? (genuine question, as i struggle to get my head round it)

last night the Barrow in Furness CLP backed anti-trident Corbyn

The constituency has 8,000 trident jobs in and they currently have a pro-trident MP (obviously) in John Woodcock

why would they do that?

[TightEnd]

Out with the old? Noticeable difference in support for PM Corbyn between current Labour supporters and 2015 voters.

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[TightEnd]

 polling averages following the latest YouGov and TNS polls: Tories lead by eleven points.

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[ripple11]

can someone help please? (genuine question, as i struggle to get my head round it)

last night the Barrow in Furness CLP backed anti-trident Corbyn

The constituency has 8,000 trident jobs in and they currently have a pro-trident MP (obviously) in John Woodcock

why would they do that?

Tonights CLP leadership nomination result:
Jeremy Corbyn 100
Owen Smith 37


not huge nos?...presume mostly hard left in attendence....see quote below;


Has restored my faith in the good, solid, working class people of Barrow who don't need fancy arguments - just common sense! Well done CLP members - now fight to get rid of that traitor to the Labour Party, Woodcock. He, and others like him, are cancer cells within the Party seeking to destroy its electoral chances..CHEMOTHERAPY required, then boot them out. Then have a serious look at the wet Labour councillors - when did yours last pay you a visit? - time for a big shake up! Fight for socialism and get rid of the dross in national and local government! United, working people can achieve miraculous results but watch out for the liars and the hypocrites infesting the Labour Party - they are still lurking in the woodwork and risk poisoning the new progressive membership.

[nirvana]

can someone help please? (genuine question, as i struggle to get my head round it)

last night the Barrow in Furness CLP backed anti-trident Corbyn

The constituency has 8,000 trident jobs in and they currently have a pro-trident MP (obviously) in John Woodcock

why would they do that?

Because they considered a range of policies ?

[TightEnd]

can someone help please? (genuine question, as i struggle to get my head round it)

last night the Barrow in Furness CLP backed anti-trident Corbyn

The constituency has 8,000 trident jobs in and they currently have a pro-trident MP (obviously) in John Woodcock

why would they do that?

Because they considered a range of policies ?

yes probably as simple as that

i didn't realise that these CLP nominations are won off a majority from as few as 100 total votes either, i had assumed far more (and thus here some of the electorate would be affected if Trident was stopped)

[Woodsey]

can someone help please? (genuine question, as i struggle to get my head round it)

last night the Barrow in Furness CLP backed anti-trident Corbyn

The constituency has 8,000 trident jobs in and they currently have a pro-trident MP (obviously) in John Woodcock

why would they do that?

Because they considered a range of policies ?

yes probably as simple as that

i didn't realise that these CLP nominations are won off a majority from as few as 100 total votes either, i had assumed far more (and thus here some of the electorate would be affected if Trident was stopped)

Might be that group is made up of more hard core lefties too as with Labour Party members....

[redsimon]

can someone help please? (genuine question, as i struggle to get my head round it)

last night the Barrow in Furness CLP backed anti-trident Corbyn

The constituency has 8,000 trident jobs in and they currently have a pro-trident MP (obviously) in John Woodcock

why would they do that?

Because they considered a range of policies ?

yes probably as simple as that

i didn't realise that these CLP nominations are won off a majority from as few as 100 total votes either, i had assumed far more (and thus here some of the electorate would be affected if Trident was stopped)

Most CLP nomination meetings are from delegates to their General management committees (GMCs) , some have opened them up to all eligible members though.

[buffyslayer1]

can someone help please? (genuine question, as i struggle to get my head round it)

last night the Barrow in Furness CLP backed anti-trident Corbyn

The constituency has 8,000 trident jobs in and they currently have a pro-trident MP (obviously) in John Woodcock

why would they do that?

Because they considered a range of policies ?

yes probably as simple as that

i didn't realise that these CLP nominations are won off a majority from as few as 100 total votes either, i had assumed far more (and thus here some of the electorate would be affected if Trident was stopped)

Might be that group is made up of more hard core lefties too as with Labour Party members....

What exactly defines hard left these days?
Just asking because I looked through Corbyn's economic plan and all the policies seem pretty normal standard for a left wing party. So I am struggling to see what's so hard left about him and the supporters. I mean of course they are definitely on the left but not really extreme from what I see compared historically to the labour party pre Blair.

Plus from what I have read his rival agrees with him on every single one of them and has essentially the same plan?

This comes from someone who has never voted Labour in my life and have been the typical swing voter, and a lot of these polices make sense to me. Like rent controls linked to local inflation, removing 0 hours contracts and the like. 

[nirvana]

You can calculate what hard left is based on whoever is the prime minister du jours. If yr left of that then to most of the press you are hard left

[TightEnd]

Labour wins bid to exclude 130,000 new members from the leadership contest

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/08/labour-wins-bid-exclude-130000-new-members-leadership-contest

[Cf]

Labour wins bid to exclude 130,000 new members from the leadership contest

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/08/labour-wins-bid-exclude-130000-new-members-leadership-contest

The whole thing is just an absolute shambles.

I sort of get the idea that they only want people who have been members for a certain amount of time. Whatever the motivations behind that you can sort of see the justification of it. But then they allow people to pay £25 and vote anyway completely negating the previous point.

Quite how they expect people to trust them to run the country when they act like this I don't know.

[buffyslayer1]

You can calculate what hard left is based on whoever is the prime minister du jours. If yr left of that then to most of the press you are hard left

ah good to know since we have one of the most right wing governments since Maggie figures....

[TightEnd]

uh oh

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