The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[DungBeetle]

nice work if you can get it

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I suspect they will be very lucky to get anyone with anything like the required skills in from PWC, E and Y etc for a £1000 a day.  I suspect they will end up paying upwards of a couple of thousand a day to the big consultants for somebody who left university not long ago, who is effectively having to learn on the job.  I wouldn't want to guess how much it will cost for a partner to drop by for a few weeks.

Indeed to put that is perspective I remember graduates being charged out at £100ish per hour,  newly qualifieds at £300, managers at £600 and partners at about £1k per hour.  That was in 1997 so stick 20 years of inflation on that.

[Longines]

Top 15 but non-Magic Circle corporate lawyers in the City are billing around £2800 a day. Senior partners are around £6000, maybe £7000 so somewhere north of that for the top firms is not unrealistic.

Mid-level managers in the big 4 are around £2500 a day,  £1000 a day gets you an entry level consultant straight out of uni.

[TightEnd]

from that IPSOS poll

[TightEnd]

Owen Smith tries to play down "negotiate with Isis" gaffe

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/08/owen-smith-tries-play-down-negotiate-isis-gaffe

[DaveShoelace]

Owen Smith tries to play down "negotiate with Isis" gaffe

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/08/owen-smith-tries-play-down-negotiate-isis-gaffe

Corbyn would have been crucified for that comment to be fair so shouldn't really let Smith off the hook.

[TightEnd]

these hustings are throwing up some interesting storylines

Corbyn won't take part in Mirror, and Guardian debates as he believes they are biased http://huff.to/2b1GFhI

[TightEnd]

Jeremy Corbyn refuses to say he would defend Nato ally invaded by Putin - http://bit.ly/2b7tI1J

[TightEnd]

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[Doobs]

these hustings are throwing up some interesting storylines

Corbyn won't take part in Mirror, and Guardian debates as he believes they are biased http://huff.to/2b1GFhI

And the New Statesman too?

I saw a half page story and film the other day in The Guardian of Corbyn sat on the floor in a train.  He was saying something along the lines of if other commuters had to stand/sit on the floor then he should. 

It wasn't until you read the bottom that you realised that the paper acknowleged the maker of the film was part of Corbyn's csmpaign and not some random on a train. 

After I read it I was pretty sad about what The Guardian had become.

And his campaign still thinks The Guardian are still biased against him?  Making enemies of The Mirror just seems madness too.  People may hate it, but Blair realised you needed The Sun on side, this lot don't even seem to want tye left wing press onside.  I have read numerous complaints against the BBC on Corbyn propaganda twitter too.  The BBC didn't lead with Comrade Corbyn visited xyz trade union and met 100 cheering people kind of thing.

Will find the article later.

[DaveShoelace]

these hustings are throwing up some interesting storylines

Corbyn won't take part in Mirror, and Guardian debates as he believes they are biased http://huff.to/2b1GFhI

Insane, literally that leaves him with the guy who makes Socialist Worker flyers doesn't it? He'll still win the Labour election but good luck when it comes to an actual election.

[Doobs]

these hustings are throwing up some interesting storylines

Corbyn won't take part in Mirror, and Guardian debates as he believes they are biased http://huff.to/2b1GFhI

Insane, literally that leaves him with the guy who makes Socialist Worker flyers doesn't it? He'll still win the Labour election but good luck when it comes to an actual election.

They have "news organisations" like the Canary to fall back on.  Say if you just read the canary and the twitter feeds of people whi agreed with you, you'd be pretty happy with how things were going on planet Corbyn. 

[TightEnd]

more "This is Jeremy Corbyn's Clause IV moment, if he listens"

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/08/jeremy-corbyns-clause-iv-moment-if-he-listens

[TightEnd]

1983 manifesto on NATO: "Labour believes in collective security".

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/08/jeremy-corbyns-nato-stance-first-labour-leader

Jeremy Corbyn's Nato stance contradicts every former Labour leader,

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/08/jeremy-corbyns-nato-stance-first-labour-leader

[PokerBroker]

Has anyone actually read the quotes attributed to Corbyn or are you just reading headlines again?

There isn't anything wrong with being anti-war it's actually quite noble.  But hey, none of you guys will be on the front line so who cares eh?

[Doobs]

Has anyone actually read the quotes attributed to Corbyn or are you just reading headlines again?

There isn't anything wrong with being anti-war it's actually quite noble.  But hey, none of you guys will be on the front line so who cares eh?

Who are you arguing with?  Tighty has posted an article that contains the quotes from Corbyn.  Nobody has commented on it.

Where do you stand on intervention in Bosnia for instance? Corbyn voted against it, but weirdy chose to apologise for the stuff he had voted against instead. 

I am not for all war, as I think that is a bad stance, but hasn't Vorbyn voted against every military intervention in his time.  That can't be right either.  As has been pointed out many times, you have obligations as a prime minister.  That really doesn't extend to you must launch a war on Iraq in case that isn't clear. 

I am pretty anti tobacco firms, so would never work for one or hold shares in one.  If I was anti all war then why would I want to lead a NATO country?