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« Reply #11295 on: October 21, 2017, 10:51:34 AM »

From the one person that matters.....Merkel

From my point of view, there are absolutely no signs that we can’t succeed. If we are all clear in our minds, I have absolutely no doubt that we can reach a good result. What I find it hard to understand, when we need a result by March 2019, is why people are already talking in October 2017 about what might happen at the end of the process. I believe, in contrast to the way things are portrayed in the British press, that things are progressing step by step. We’re in a process, and if it goes on for two or three weeks longer, or even longer, that doesn’t stop us from working hard to reach the second phase. I very clearly want an agreement, not any kind of unpredictable solution, and we’re working very hard on that.”

Reinforces my view that Merkel will make a deal happen.





 
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« Reply #11296 on: October 21, 2017, 11:16:43 AM »

From the one person that matters.....Merkel

From my point of view, there are absolutely no signs that we can’t succeed. If we are all clear in our minds, I have absolutely no doubt that we can reach a good result. What I find it hard to understand, when we need a result by March 2019, is why people are already talking in October 2017 about what might happen at the end of the process. I believe, in contrast to the way things are portrayed in the British press, that things are progressing step by step. We’re in a process, and if it goes on for two or three weeks longer, or even longer, that doesn’t stop us from working hard to reach the second phase. I very clearly want an agreement, not any kind of unpredictable solution, and we’re working very hard on that.”

Reinforces my view that Merkel will make a deal happen.
 

She's just (quite rightly) protecting the EU's interest. No one wants to get stiffed for £48 billion. Although I guess what we actually seem to be saying is that we want to stiff them for £28 billion.
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« Reply #11297 on: October 22, 2017, 08:55:57 AM »

"Sleight of hand and twist of fate. On a bed of nails she makes me wait. And I wait, without you. With or without you. With or without EU"

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« Reply #11298 on: October 22, 2017, 08:56:36 AM »

Interesting point from a European diplomat on how splits in the Conservative party over Brexit go beyond May/whoever is PM

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« Reply #11299 on: October 22, 2017, 08:57:27 AM »

Cabinet issue coded plea to Hammond to be more upbeat in Budget & set out a post-Brexit vision for the UK economy

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4734628/james-forsyth-brexit-deal/
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« Reply #11300 on: October 22, 2017, 08:58:33 AM »

Why parliament may be powerless to prevent a “no deal” Brexit

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2017/10/why-parliament-may-be-powerless-prevent-no-deal-brexit
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« Reply #11301 on: October 22, 2017, 08:59:32 AM »

Theresa May will probably have to sign up to a bill of between €40bn and €60bn if she wants to talk about trade

https://www.economist.com/news/europe/21730529-europes-leaders-offer-theresa-may-qualified-support-they-want-britains-money-britain-seeks?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/
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« Reply #11302 on: October 22, 2017, 02:43:46 PM »

Theresa May will probably have to sign up to a bill of between €40bn and €60bn if she wants to talk about trade

https://www.economist.com/news/europe/21730529-europes-leaders-offer-theresa-may-qualified-support-they-want-britains-money-britain-seeks?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/

After rebates ,EU money spent in uk etc....most agree the net paid out figure to be member of the EU club is about 8.4 billion. So it would a bill of about 6 years worth of net contributions to near enough carry on as now?
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« Reply #11303 on: October 23, 2017, 09:20:00 AM »

Theresa May will probably have to sign up to a bill of between €40bn and €60bn if she wants to talk about trade

https://www.economist.com/news/europe/21730529-europes-leaders-offer-theresa-may-qualified-support-they-want-britains-money-britain-seeks?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/

After rebates ,EU money spent in uk etc....most agree the net paid out figure to be member of the EU club is about 8.4 billion. So it would a bill of about 6 years worth of net contributions to near enough carry on as now?

I think the EU views we have to pay gross contributions and by leaving the EU we forfeit rebates, etc. and have no claim on any of the assets we contributed to.
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« Reply #11304 on: October 24, 2017, 09:39:59 AM »

Britain faces a cliff edge Brexit deal http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/britain-faces-cliffedge-brexit-without-trade-deal-theresa-may-is-warned-36253475.html
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« Reply #11305 on: October 24, 2017, 09:41:26 AM »

What drives populism https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/10/what-drives-populism/
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« Reply #11306 on: October 25, 2017, 09:24:43 AM »

'Principles' of Brexit transition will be agreed soon, chancellor says

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/24/principles-of-brexit-transition-will-be-agreed-soon-chancellor-says?CMP=twt_gu
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« Reply #11307 on: October 25, 2017, 09:25:32 AM »

This chart shows how Remainers beat the Tories

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/june2017/2017/10/how-brexit-cost-conservatives-their-majority

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« Reply #11308 on: October 25, 2017, 09:26:03 AM »

Brexit 'more complex than first moon landing', says academic study

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/24/brexit-more-complex-than-first-moon-landing-says-academic-study?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_b-gdnnews#link_time=1508862428
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« Reply #11309 on: October 25, 2017, 09:37:18 AM »

For most Leave voters, Remain was the risky option: open borders & sucked further in to federal EU

http://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com/stumbling_and_mumbling/2017/10/brexit-risk-attitudes.html
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