The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

Tory Leave MP on the Brexiteers: “They’re far too craven, supine and greedy for office ever to leave their positions on a point of principle.” We’ll see.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/07/brexiteer-cabinet-resignations-would-be-pointless

[StuartHopkin]

Anyone who quits instantly loses their car.....

[Doobs]

David Davis is ex SAs reservist.  He could do it in 5 minutes with Gove on his back.  He has cojones, and that is all we need.

Well that, and more time, more experts, a more stable Government,  the DUP to forget what they stand for, and less of a madman in the Oval Office.

[StuartHopkin]

What a guy....

[RED-DOG]

David Davis is ex SAs reservist. 

Artist's regiment.

Pfft!

[TightEnd]

Theresa May has today agreed the following 3 page Brexit deal with her cabinet for the softest possible Brexit

- Almost no concessions in the day, apparently
- EU rule book on goods
-“Labour mobility”, whatever that means

At 9pm, no resignations yet...

[RickBFA]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44747444

Step one complete.

[TightEnd]

so Two years after the referendum, the cabinet has agreed a Brexit negotiating position - slight problem is that the EU will  (probably) reject it.

[RickBFA]

so Two years after the referendum, the cabinet has agreed a Brexit negotiating position - slight problem is that the EU will  (probably) reject it.

 Could have been a worse outcome today. Let’s see what the weekend brings.

[TightEnd]

so Two years after the referendum, the cabinet has agreed a Brexit negotiating position - slight problem is that the EU will  (probably) reject it.

 Could have been a worse outcome today. Let’s see what the weekend brings.

true

 at first glance this document is a Remainers’ dream. A soft Brexit, which keeps UK aligned to EU. Brexiteers will hate it? But... looks like no-ones walked so maybe not.... so over to the EU

[kukushkin88]

I think a decent hierarchy of blame is something like:

1: DC and senior tories at the time
2: Everyone who doesn’t regularly change their mind when new information comes to light
3: Corbyn and senior figures in the Labour Party
4: People who voted leave based on the crazy stuff, ‘emotion’ for example.
5: Remainers who didn’t vote
6: Boris, Gove, Farage, Mogg etc

Whiney remainers only make a difference in the imagination of the crazies. Unless someone can explain other wise of course....who knows, I might change my mind.

Did I read that correctly?

Corbyn to blame for something? You feeling ok?

 

I can’t remember ever being anything other than objective about JC. Some of his contributions on Brexit border on dereliction of Duty.

Corbyn above Farage, Boris, Mogg etc?  I get that Corbyn was pretty lukewarm throughout the campaign, but still.

terrible campaign as it was, Remain would have won if Corbyn had committed to it,and with it his legions in the cities. As he's a leaver though, it didn't happen

can we put the loonie squad of Farage and Mogg equal with Corbyn though please? feels discriminatory to give them less blame

Boris should go higher given he seemed happy to switch sides for personal gain.  Suapect Mogg believes what he is saying and Corbyn has never been an enthusiast.  Gove can also go higher just because he is Gove.   Farage has been as happy as anyone to enrich himself at our expense in Brussels.  If you really believe that it is a huge waste of money, don't add to it.  S

Sure, I’m happy to put Boris a little higher and JC a little lower.

Thanks for your updates on the thread, really quick way to catch up on the important bits at the end of a very long day. Much appreciated.

[MANTIS01]

Can't underestimate the feel good and unity that winning this world cup is going to achieve.

Conquer the world and we'll see Barnier fold quicker than Tikay in his staking thread.

C'MON ENGLAND!

[TightEnd]

What language barrier?

Brexit : « Le “fuck business” de Boris Johnson risque de se retourner en “fuck Britain” »

https://www.lemonde.fr/economie/article/2018/07/06/brexit-le-fuck-business-de-boris-johnson-risque-de-se-retourner-en-fuck-britain_5327111_3234.html

[TightEnd]

This from Theresa May’s letter to Tory MPs is significant

One word of criticism and you’re out...

[TightEnd]

By triggering Article 50, the UK did something that no EU country has done in post-war history – it broke its own bats

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/07/brexit-isn-t-world-cup-uk-lost-game-began