The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

and finally to back up all of the above


Nick Robinson says

"Is this Johnson’s new strategy? 

Prep for No Deal & hope EU blinks.

If not, go for No Deal & hope parliament blinks.

If not, go for an election

Any PM with any real intention of managing the parliamentary arithmetic wouldn't be doing this."

[TightEnd]

lets see what today brings

A reminder today is the last day of this session until September. MPs (presumably not Boris and team) get six weeks off with 98 days until the 31st October!

[MANTIS01]

and finally to back up all of the above


Nick Robinson says

"Is this Johnson’s new strategy?  

Prep for No Deal & hope EU blinks.

If not, go for No Deal & hope parliament blinks.

If not, go for an election

Any PM with any real intention of managing the parliamentary arithmetic wouldn't be doing this."

Exactly this.

We’ve been lamenting no plan for 3yrs and hey presto a firm plan.

Sure wizard arithmetic zzzz but I wouldn’t underestimate the power of feel good after the draining spirit sapping times of austerity and Brexit

Spend freely, can do buzz, united Brexit cabinet without a mr burns chancellor sneering in background, play Blair’s things can only get better theme tune, wave kippers

I think we can count on some blinkage really

[TightEnd]

well its not really a plan. Yet. More an aspiration

And of course they are turning on the taps with debt at 90% of GDP. this has long term consequences

Same sort of debates we get with Trump, borrowing up a lot, tax cuts, growth accelerates...its fiscal Keynesianism of a classic kind

[Woodsey]

Yesterday was an absolute corker

A slashing reshuffle carried out with efficiency, to a plan and leaving no one in any doubt as to the direction of things.

Lets crack on.

That’s the attitude, keep it up! 

[RED-DOG]

I wonder how different things would be if we had adopted the Euro?

[aaron1867]

Jo Swinson already undoing all the work done by Cable. She’s called for a no confidence and it’s so utterly stupid and immature. Already get the feeling that the voters Lib Dem’s might come close to picking up might get disillusioned by her.

[TightEnd]

Jo Swinson already undoing all the work done by Cable. She’s called for a no confidence and it’s so utterly stupid and immature. Already get the feeling that the voters Lib Dem’s might come close to picking up might get disillusioned by her.

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All the good work done by Cable? He completely dropped the ball.

Swinson will be hugely popular once the remain part of the voter base gets to know her

The call for no confidence is entirely sensible (improbable right now of course) as it once again highlights Corbyn's vacillation.

Corbyn a) wants Brexit and b) wants to own none of it, so won't do it until later in the year. Of course as we have seen in the recent elections a strategy of fence sitting means no one knows what the party's policy is, still

Another reason why an early election must appeal to Johnson

[TightEnd]

Please read this

Why fate of the Tories now rests with a new leader – Jo Swinson of the LD

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/07/fate-tories-now-rests-new-leader-jo-swinson-liberal-democrats

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its only 11.15am and i have another 25 posts to make its all happening that fast. JRM's first stint as Leader of the house at the box was very interesting

Will save you all til later :-)

[aaron1867]

Jo Swinson already undoing all the work done by Cable. She’s called for a no confidence and it’s so utterly stupid and immature. Already get the feeling that the voters Lib Dem’s might come close to picking up might get disillusioned by her.

!

All the good work done by Cable? He completely dropped the ball.

Swinson will be hugely popular once the remain part of the voter base gets to know her

The call for no confidence is entirely sensible (improbable right now of course) as it once again highlights Corbyn's vacillation.

Corbyn a) wants Brexit and b) wants to own none of it, so won't do it until later in the year. Of course as we have seen in the recent elections a strategy of fence sitting means no one knows what the party's policy is, still

Another reason why an early election must appeal to Johnson

It’s stuupid to call a vote that you are going to lose. She already knew that the vote would have lost and she even knew Corbyn wouldn’t agree to it.

As for Cable, have the LD’s ever been polling better? I don’t think so

[nirvana]

Jo Swinson already undoing all the work done by Cable. She’s called for a no confidence and it’s so utterly stupid and immature. Already get the feeling that the voters Lib Dem’s might come close to picking up might get disillusioned by her.

!

All the good work done by Cable? He completely dropped the ball.

Swinson will be hugely popular once the remain part of the voter base gets to know her

The call for no confidence is entirely sensible (improbable right now of course) as it once again highlights Corbyn's vacillation.

Corbyn a) wants Brexit and b) wants to own none of it, so won't do it until later in the year. Of course as we have seen in the recent elections a strategy of fence sitting means no one knows what the party's policy is, still

Another reason why an early election must appeal to Johnson

She's terrible. An inflatable balloon even with a whiny voice would appeal to the remainiacs

[TightEnd]

Aaron think tactics please

she can't call a no conf vote, Corbyn can. By telling him to, when he doesn't it plays to the remain base. 

With a soon to be majority of 1, a no confidence vote certainly has a shot probably in the autumn. See what the Tory remainers do, they obviously would be voting themselves out of jobs in some cases but the anti no-deal principles are strong

For the period 2016-mid 19 Cable cannot be said to have capitalised on the 48% remain vote, united it or really made any progress right? When it came to the Euro elections (after he had confirmed his resignation and with LD leadership vote about to start) the LD vote was "can't vote for Corbyn" not "must vote for Cable". Yes?

[TightEnd]

Jo Swinson already undoing all the work done by Cable. She’s called for a no confidence and it’s so utterly stupid and immature. Already get the feeling that the voters Lib Dem’s might come close to picking up might get disillusioned by her.

!

All the good work done by Cable? He completely dropped the ball.

Swinson will be hugely popular once the remain part of the voter base gets to know her

The call for no confidence is entirely sensible (improbable right now of course) as it once again highlights Corbyn's vacillation.

Corbyn a) wants Brexit and b) wants to own none of it, so won't do it until later in the year. Of course as we have seen in the recent elections a strategy of fence sitting means no one knows what the party's policy is, still

Another reason why an early election must appeal to Johnson

She's terrible. An inflatable balloon even with a whiny voice would appeal to the remainiacs

really?

I think she has got a lot of potential.

[horseplayer]

Cable did a really good job

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[Pokerpops]

Anyone looking for an injection of optimism should go and buy themselves a copy of today’s Telegraph.