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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #21975 on: November 11, 2019, 11:10:51 AM »

Boris Johnson has a better job rating among Lib Dems than Jeremy Corbyn.  Sadly that will be a big limiting factor on LD-Lab tactical voting.

Net "doing well /badly" as PM / Lab leader - DeltaPoll, 6-9 Nov, LIB DEM VOTERS

Johnson -49
Corbyn -68

If people have already switched to the Lib Dems from Labour then there's little compelling reason to want to vote tactically for them.  Chances are there's a fundamental issue with continuing to support Labour that caused the switch.

The outcome will be more dependent on those who haven't yet moved away from supporting Labour, and the extent to which they do so in the campaign.  The polled group are pretty much lost, in that regard.
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« Reply #21976 on: November 11, 2019, 12:34:26 PM »



General election 2019: Brexit Party will not stand in Tory seats, says Nigel Farage


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50377396
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« Reply #21977 on: November 11, 2019, 12:36:38 PM »

Farage announces the Brexit Party won’t stand in any of the 317 Tory held seats.

Price on a Tory majority immediately moved from 1.75 to 1.5, with a hung parliament drifting.

This may not help get a Tory majority as much as the price move suggests - to get the majority the Tories need to win the Labour held marginals, and enough of them to offset the loss of seats in Scotland, and Farage’s decision does not help that. It may actually hurt it as Farage explicitly aligning with the Tories may put off ex-Labour voters who would otherwise vote Brexit.

Farage’s decision protects against Labour making ground, but that was unlikely anyway.

If you have any thoughts of liking a hung parliament then now is the time to bet.

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« Reply #21978 on: November 11, 2019, 12:36:42 PM »



General election 2019: Brexit Party will not stand in Tory seats, says Nigel Farage


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50377396

Well done Nigel

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« Reply #21979 on: November 11, 2019, 03:28:11 PM »

Farage announces the Brexit Party won’t stand in any of the 317 Tory held seats.

Price on a Tory majority immediately moved from 1.75 to 1.5, with a hung parliament drifting.

This may not help get a Tory majority as much as the price move suggests - to get the majority the Tories need to win the Labour held marginals, and enough of them to offset the loss of seats in Scotland, and Farage’s decision does not help that. It may actually hurt it as Farage explicitly aligning with the Tories may put off ex-Labour voters who would otherwise vote Brexit.

Farage’s decision protects against Labour making ground, but that was unlikely anyway.

If you have any thoughts of liking a hung parliament then now is the time to bet.



good post....looks like an over reaction in prices.
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« Reply #21980 on: November 11, 2019, 05:01:11 PM »

Farage announces the Brexit Party won’t stand in any of the 317 Tory held seats.

Price on a Tory majority immediately moved from 1.75 to 1.5, with a hung parliament drifting.

This may not help get a Tory majority as much as the price move suggests - to get the majority the Tories need to win the Labour held marginals, and enough of them to offset the loss of seats in Scotland, and Farage’s decision does not help that. It may actually hurt it as Farage explicitly aligning with the Tories may put off ex-Labour voters who would otherwise vote Brexit.

Farage’s decision protects against Labour making ground, but that was unlikely anyway.

If you have any thoughts of liking a hung parliament then now is the time to bet.



good post....looks like an over reaction in prices.

This is a very good post.  My thoughts were very similar.   The loss of Ruth D in Scotland is going to hurt the tories.  So many marginal gains elsewhere are going to be needed just to make up for Scotland losses.    How many marginal seats can the Tories keep which they only just held last time as well as hoovering up plenty more to get past the post.   Certainly doesn't look the shoe in people are suddenly talking about.
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« Reply #21981 on: November 12, 2019, 10:28:22 AM »

Labour hit with a large scale cyber attack

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1194196575758823425
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« Reply #21982 on: November 12, 2019, 10:37:36 AM »

Labour hit with a large scale cyber attack

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1194196575758823425


A Labour spokeswoman said the attack had "failed" because of the party's "robust security systems" and they were confident that no data breach occurred.



Boris quoted this morning....."you pay these Russians good money, and they can't even do a decent job"
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« Reply #21983 on: November 12, 2019, 10:42:18 AM »

Labour hit with a large scale cyber attack

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1194196575758823425

mind if I wanted to put pressure on govt to release report into Russian election interference, I'd claim there was a massive cyberhack attempt during this election as well Wink

I'm not suring no attack happened, as I'm sure someone tries every minute or so, just that I reckon there'll be very few verifiable details about the scale in the coming days.
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« Reply #21984 on: November 12, 2019, 06:01:24 PM »

Nigel Farage in making lots of money shock.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/eddie-mair/nigel-farage-not-refund-dropped-candidates-mair/

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« Reply #21985 on: November 12, 2019, 08:53:43 PM »

Interesting that whiter than white Hillary Clinton decides to wade into UK politics today. Good job the Clintons have such a clean and uncontroversial history.






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« Reply #21986 on: November 12, 2019, 08:59:12 PM »

Like whiter than white Donald, then. They're all double busy when it suits their own ends.

She's got some kind of book out with her nipper, so no shock she's putting herself about a bit again.
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« Reply #21987 on: November 12, 2019, 09:08:38 PM »

Like whiter than white Donald, then. They're all double busy when it suits their own ends.

She's got some kind of book out with her nipper, so no shock she's putting herself about a bit again.


Exactly the same thing applies to Trump.

Not his place or hers to interfere in British politics.

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« Reply #21988 on: November 12, 2019, 09:28:47 PM »

Like whiter than white Donald, then. They're all double busy when it suits their own ends.

She's got some kind of book out with her nipper, so no shock she's putting herself about a bit again.


Exactly the same thing applies to Trump.

Not his place or hers to interfere in British politics.

They all love chucking their 2 pence in when it suits them.
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« Reply #21989 on: November 12, 2019, 09:32:49 PM »

Like whiter than white Donald, then. They're all double busy when it suits their own ends.

She's got some kind of book out with her nipper, so no shock she's putting herself about a bit again.


Exactly the same thing applies to Trump.

Not his place or hers to interfere in British politics.



Why not Hillary? She’s a private citizen with no political job - bit different from the President wading in.
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