£500 pot limit holdem at luton

[LLevan]

I also played in this tournament last night and got knocked out about 30th I think. Never really got going and the most chips I ever had was 19k. However the blind structure was superb and it wasnt until after the last break of the night when the blinds reached 1k and 2k that I felt short stacked. There were a lot of muted comments about the payout structure, several players complaining that it was too flat.In my opinion %age wise I think it was about right but I feel with only 110 runners there was no need to pay £750 for 10th to 18th places. I think Grosvenor structured the payout to try and stop deals being done at the final table. On a final note good luck to all those who have made it into the final 18 this afternoon.

On the other hand it is also nice for those who have travelled back for day two to be rewarded.

My view is that paying 18 places for 100+ runners is okay.

  Its hard when you travel from say somewhere in the North and finish just outside the money.

Payout structure sounds good to me, £750 gives you your entry back and covers the expenses

On 2nd thoughts for people that travelled from afar it makes sense to reward them for making day 2.............being that I only travelled by car from North London I didnt really look at those who had travellled further to get there and had to pay for accomodation overnight too.

[Dubai]

Paying 18 is ridiculous imo. Who cares if they have to miss work. When they register for a 2 DAY EVENT, surely they understand this.

[MrMoves]

Paying 18 is ridiculous imo. Who cares if they have to miss work. When they register for a 2 DAY EVENT, surely they understand this.

Absolutely right.   

[simonow]

Your up early Dubai, I thought you didnt do daylight

[Dubai]

I keep the curtains closed and pretend its 8pm mate, plus out on the Razz tonight so got to gut the fish earlier

[snoopy1239]

I crashed out at around 1am or something. Played decent poker (the odd error here and there) but never got the rub of the green.

I thought this comp was top notch. 10k starting chips on a pot limit comp with a 45 minute clock. You can't ask for too much more. Top stuff and plenty of room to maneouver.

I agree with Dubai. Paying 18 isn't worthwhile with just 110 players.

I like the flatter structure, but I think they should stick in the 18-11 place money too. I don't care about gettin my dosh back,  I wanna win.

good luck to yongster

[M3boy]

My opinion is a balanced one on this subject.

In an ideal world, only 9 would come back for day 2 - making the "do we/dont we pay 18-10th any money?" irrellavent.

But as we dont live in an ideal world, what Luton have done in the past is ONLY pay top 9, BUT give 18th to 10th something like £200 to cover "expenses". - A wonderfull idea,,,, and this was only done if ALL 18 agreed.

So I think that to give 18th to 10th Something is good - I feel that £750 is a little too much - as it takes too much of the top.

Just my point of view.

[TightEnd]

but they have taken the decision to up the amounts given to 10th to 18th so as to provide them with a small profit...previously they recevied a sum that represented a small loss

This was done after complaints from the players!

Likewise the flattening of the prize structure!

By and large the team at Luton gets it VERY right and listens to players a lot.

[LLevan]

My opinion is a balanced one on this subject.

In an ideal world, only 9 would come back for day 2 - making the "do we/dont we pay 18-10th any money?" irrellavent.

But as we dont live in an ideal world, what Luton have done in the past is ONLY pay top 9, BUT give 18th to 10th something like £200 to cover "expenses". - A wonderfull idea,,,, and this was only done if ALL 18 agreed.

So I think that to give 18th to 10th Something is good - I feel that £750 is a little too much - as it takes too much of the top.

Just my point of view.

To ensure playing down to just 9 for day 2 would have meant either starting earlier or altering the blind structure which by all the comments on here would ruin the tournament. I entered the tournament knowing the structure and correctly IMO believing it was an excellent structure. As for the distribution of prize money there are 2 schools of thought with regard to flatter or top heavier structures. I personally feel the first prize of just under 16k was about right for a tournament with a prize pool of 55k. However the tournament was advertised as paying just 9 places but there is always the small print which states management reserve the right to make amendments if they see fit. Personally I feel all festival tournaments should have the prize structure advertised prior to the start and this should be stuck too the same as the blind stucture then its up to the individuals if they wish to enter the tournament. Moving the goalposts after a tournament has started are not fair IMO.

[M3boy]

but they have taken the decision to up the amounts given to 10th to 18th so as to provide them with a small profit...previously they recevied a sum that represented a small loss

This was done after complaints from the players!

Likewise the flattening of the prize structure!

By and large the team at Luton gets it VERY right and listens to players a lot.

I agree with you 100% Mr Tighty - Luton are one of THE best at Tourney structures at the mo.

[Karabiner]

The only thing that needs to be decided really is where the threshold is for paying two tables as opposed to one.

I feel that paying two tables is okay if there are more than 100 runners, although it would seem fairer were there 180.

The trouble is that there is no "middle path", you either pay nine or eighteen.

[snoopy1239]

The only thing that needs to be decided really is where the threshold is for paying two tables as opposed to one.

I feel that paying two tables is okay if there are more than 100 runners, although it would seem fairer were there 180.

The trouble is that there is no "middle path", you either pay nine or eighteen.

How about paying 10 for 100, 11 for 110 and so on? Or is that a dumb idea?

[Royal Flush]

The only thing that needs to be decided really is where the threshold is for paying two tables as opposed to one.

I feel that paying two tables is okay if there are more than 100 runners, although it would seem fairer were there 180.

The trouble is that there is no "middle path", you either pay nine or eighteen.

How about paying 10 for 100, 11 for 110 and so on? Or is that a dumb idea?

the only problem with that snoops is when you pay say 10 players you are hand for hand with 6 and 5, so if you are on a table of 5 its a lot heavier on a mid-short stack.

[snoopy1239]

The only thing that needs to be decided really is where the threshold is for paying two tables as opposed to one.

I feel that paying two tables is okay if there are more than 100 runners, although it would seem fairer were there 180.

The trouble is that there is no "middle path", you either pay nine or eighteen.

How about paying 10 for 100, 11 for 110 and so on? Or is that a dumb idea?

the only problem with that snoops is when you pay say 10 players you are hand for hand with 6 and 5, so if you are on a table of 5 its a lot heavier on a mid-short stack.

How about just doing the even numbers then?

[Royal Flush]

odd you mean....