£500 pot limit holdem at luton

[Royal Flush]

I dont think flatter payouts are good at all, I think 1st place should get the lot and if they wanted to buy 2nd and 3rd a drink then so be it.

PMSL

If it is 40% for the winner with 5 left say..........you cannot deal to a higher percentage, so no it doesn't work both ways.

Why not? Of course you can.

[Colchester Kev]

I was talking to a mate today who played a sat at luton for the main event, he said the clock went from 15mins to 10 mins and then to 5 mins!!! just to get it finished, what a joke!!

Absolutely unbelievable, shocking and mind boggling ................. ifm has a mate ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??

[MPOWER]

Kev being a mate of Mardy Mustard turned you into a Shmuck.

Regards

M

p.s I like you mate, but you are a Smuck   

[RED-DOG]

The payouts were fine before, why Luton have to change the payout and made the clock so long its boring Its not right. Because a few players say we want longer clocks and payout half the field dont make sence. If you want to play a 2 or 3 day comp just save up for a big buy in comp but having two day comps for £100 buy ins and then to get your money back finishing 18th after two days hard work puts me off playing.

IMHO players that can't afford big buy-ins are just as entitled to a good structure as anyone else

£100 is just as important to them as £1500 is to you

[Foxy]

I agree Tom but all im saying is what is a good structure ? most poeple think that the longer the clock the better the structure which I think is not true, If you play with 3 hours levels is that the best structure ever ? You will just wait for one player to get kings and the other player get aces and it all goes in pre flop and thats not at all skillfull. See you tomoz at Luton tomoz mate. btw £100 is important to me checkey

[RED-DOG]

I understand what you're saying Foxy, but if I use your argument and take it to the other extreme, why not have 5 minute rounds?

All I'm saying is if an hour clock is about optimum for a £1500, it is also optimum for a £100

BTW, we don't all play like you, jamming every pot with any two cards, but if the clock was too quick, then we would have to, and you would have lost your edge 

[Foxy]

you saying im a . what are you saying red ?

[Foxy]

if your saying ive got no game and all i do is reraise peolpe of pots and hope that the blinds go up quickly so I can hope to get luckey, well I think ive been well and truley found out 

[robyong]

Payout and ante structures have been discussed over and over on BP. A awful lot of people were crying out for flatter, longer structures that would disincentivise deals. I'm sorry, but for main events at festivals the vast majority of poker players would prefer a 1hr min clock and to receive a decent profit for reaching a final table. I have spent the last 3 years travelling roung the world mixing with players at all levels of bankroll and nationalities and these are 2 simple facts.

If you love poker, you know how pleasurable it is to play the streets and your draws, and how hard it is to make a final table. There are always some voices against the majority, and they should be able to voice there opinions, but it would be nice to hear all those who posted complaining about crapshoots and deals applaud the Luton card room for making positive changes.

Opinions are important, but who gives them is even more important.  For example, experienced players such as Dave Coleclough, Simon Trumper, Devilfish and Paul Jackson are more likely to have meaningful input on festival structures and payouts compared to players who do not have their tournament experience. What YOU would like for yourself and what is GOOD FOR TOURNAMANT POKER are 2 different questions as it depends on your personal financial situation. Personally, I would be happy to play a winner takes all and play my hole cards all-in blind BUT that is because poker is a recreation for me. For the vast vast majority of people a £1500 main event outlay is a serious amount of money to lay out in the UK, so the payouts and stuctures must have THESE peoples best interest at heart.

It cheese me off a bit when people speak about £500 comps like they are a few spare pennies. 3 years ago a £500 freezout was a really big comp in the UK, now its a side event. Okay, some people may be loaded, but maybe its a good idea to respect money as one day any high roller could be playing £20 re-buys at the local casino, luck can change in a second and I wish people wouldn't forget where they came from.

Also, people who dont play the UK main event circuit shouldn't really express their views so strongly, as you have to play the circuit to understand how important it is to look after majority of players. I've seen posts on other threads from people on BP supporting top end payouts but they are renowned to ask for a deal, I find this very hypocritical. I am personally still owed over £100k from being "nipped" in casinos, and some of them are people you would never expect to be broke.

Thats it for me on this subject, I know that the Luton Card Room staff read BP for feedback so I wanted to tell them what a good job I thought they have done and hopefully the £750 and £1500 will be just as good.

[NoflopsHomer]

Payout and ante structures have been discussed over and over on BP. A awful lot of people were crying out for flatter, longer structures that would disincentivise deals. I'm sorry, but for main events at festivals the vast majority of poker players would prefer a 1hr min clock and to receive a decent profit for reaching a final table. I have spent the last 3 years travelling roung the world mixing with players at all levels of bankroll and nationalities and these are the simple facts.

If you love poker, you know how pleasurable it is to play the streets and your draws, and how hard it is to make a final table. There are always some voices against the majority, and they should be able to voice there opinions, but it would be nice to hear all those who posted complaining about crapshoots and deals applaud the Luton card room for making positive changes.

Opinions are important, but who gives them is even more important.  For example, experienced players such as Dave Coleclough, Simon Trumper, Devilfish and Paul Jackson are more likely to have meaningful input on festival stuctures and payouts compared to players who do not have their tournament experience. What YOU would like and what is GOOD FOR TOURNAMANT POKER are 2 different questions as it depends on your personal financial situation. Personally, I would be happy with winner takes all and play my hole cards all-in blind BUT that is because poker is a recreation for me. For the vast vast majority of people a £1500 main event outlay is a serious amount of money to lay out in the UK, so the payouts and stuctures must have THESE peoples best interest at heart.

It cheese me off a bit when people speak about £500 comps like they are a few spare pennies. 3 years ago a £500 freezout was a really big comp in the UK, now its a side event. Okay, some people may be loaded, but please respect money as one day you might be playing £20 re-buys at the local casino, luck can change in a second. Also, people who dont play the UK main event circuit shouldn't really express their views so strongly, as you have to play the circuit to understand who important it is to look after majority of players. I am personally still owed over £100k from being "nipped" in casinos, and some of them are people you would never expect to be broke.

Thats it for me on this subject, I know that the Luton Card Room staff read BP for feedback so I wanted to tell them what a good job I though they have done and hopefully the £750 and £1500 will be just as good.

 

[sofa----king]

hey red you done a great job on 854,move over tk lol wd m8 you looked very smart didmrs red make you wear that tie?lol wd good job  

[RED-DOG]

you saying im a . what are you saying red ?

I'm saying considering the amount of pots you've pinched, you should be hiding in Brazil

I'm not knocking it, I'm just jealous cos I can't do it

[RED-DOG]

Payout and ante structures have been discussed over and over on BP. A awful lot of people were crying out for flatter, longer structures that would disincentivise deals. I'm sorry, but for main events at festivals the vast majority of poker players would prefer a 1hr min clock and to receive a decent profit for reaching a final table. I have spent the last 3 years travelling roung the world mixing with players at all levels of bankroll and nationalities and these are 2 simple facts.

If you love poker, you know how pleasurable it is to play the streets and your draws, and how hard it is to make a final table. There are always some voices against the majority, and they should be able to voice there opinions, but it would be nice to hear all those who posted complaining about crapshoots and deals applaud the Luton card room for making positive changes.

Opinions are important, but who gives them is even more important.  For example, experienced players such as Dave Coleclough, Simon Trumper, Devilfish and Paul Jackson are more likely to have meaningful input on festival structures and payouts compared to players who do not have their tournament experience. What YOU would like for yourself and what is GOOD FOR TOURNAMANT POKER are 2 different questions as it depends on your personal financial situation. Personally, I would be happy to play a winner takes all and play my hole cards all-in blind BUT that is because poker is a recreation for me. For the vast vast majority of people a £1500 main event outlay is a serious amount of money to lay out in the UK, so the payouts and stuctures must have THESE peoples best interest at heart.

It cheese me off a bit when people speak about £500 comps like they are a few spare pennies. 3 years ago a £500 freezout was a really big comp in the UK, now its a side event. Okay, some people may be loaded, but maybe its a good idea to respect money as one day any high roller could be playing £20 re-buys at the local casino, luck can change in a second.

Also, people who dont play the UK main event circuit shouldn't really express their views so strongly, as you have to play the circuit to understand how important it is to look after majority of players. I am personally still owed over £100k from being "nipped" in casinos, and some of them are people you would never expect to be broke.

Thats it for me on this subject, I know that the Luton Card Room staff read BP for feedback so I wanted to tell them what a good job I thought they have done and hopefully the £750 and £1500 will be just as good.

I wish I could have put it like that   

[Foxy]

LOL nice 1 red dog, this is set up nicely for tomoz, I got a feeling we gonna be on the same table or we will do battle later on in the touney, so watch out cos im after your BB 

[RED-DOG]

hey red you done a great job on 854,move over tk lol wd m8 you looked very smart didmrs red make you wear that tie?lol wd good job  

Mrs Red bought me a big bag of ties from Oxfam, they're great, some are even still knotted and ready to go