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Question: Do you agree that Scotland should be an independent country?
Yes - because it would be better for the Scots
Yes - because the rest of the UK would be better off without the Scots
Don't really know
Don't care
No, the Union is a good thing

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« Reply #780 on: September 09, 2014, 11:13:03 PM »

Not a fan, but it can't be long till they come out!

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« Reply #781 on: September 09, 2014, 11:14:49 PM »

Not a fan, but it can't be long till they come out!



Is that when you will quit your impartiality and decide your vote?
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« Reply #782 on: September 09, 2014, 11:16:29 PM »

i dont understand what that means.  Feel free to actually answer my statement and why it is bullshit though!

I honestly can't be bothered, some people just arent worth the time and effort.  

It's not hard to explain what 'white noise' means to a middle england tory boy.  i appreicate its tough when u run into someone who doesn't just stand there and nod his head at you like most of ur door knocking punters in red scotland do.  It's more of a challenge surely though.  99% of your punters are just chicken feed.  Can't be a challenge for u surely?  maybe you don't like the challenge just the open goals to tap in living and campaigning in red labour scotland gives u!

If i ran into you, you'd know about it and there would only be one winner.  

Almost everything you have posted on this thread has been ripped a new hole and you still go on and on about the smae nonsense.  Maybe that's just the tory in you, but pease wipe your chin.  

You can keep trolling all you like but nobody is taking you serious.    
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« Reply #783 on: September 09, 2014, 11:17:45 PM »

Not a fan, but it can't be long till they come out!



Is that when you will quit your impartiality and decide your vote?

Yep.  I hope you have found somewhere nice in London.  I can give you the number of a good removal man if you want?
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« Reply #784 on: September 09, 2014, 11:18:06 PM »

i dont understand what that means.  Feel free to actually answer my statement and why it is bullshit though!

I honestly can't be bothered, some people just arent worth the time and effort.  

It's not hard to explain what 'white noise' means to a middle england tory boy.  i appreicate its tough when u run into someone who doesn't just stand there and nod his head at you like most of ur door knocking punters in red scotland do.  It's more of a challenge surely though.  99% of your punters are just chicken feed.  Can't be a challenge for u surely?  maybe you don't like the challenge just the open goals to tap in living and campaigning in red labour scotland gives u!

If i ran into you, you'd know about it and there would only be one winner.  

Almost everything you have posted on this thread has been ripped a new hole and you still go on and on about the smae nonsense.  Maybe that's just the tory in you, but pease wipe your chin.  

You can keep trolling all you like but nobody is taking you serious.    

You are the only guy in the world and the thread that thinks yes is a fav when everyone else knows the truth.  Keep dreaming son.  You might win but you are certainly an underdog to do so as we speak.    It's ur deluded dream/info that is allowing the shrewdies in the world to profit risk free from this contest.  Keep selling your myth to the masses.  Send them all to ladbrokes as well.  They might hold the 2/1 longer.
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« Reply #785 on: September 09, 2014, 11:21:04 PM »

Not a fan, but it can't be long till they come out!



Is that when you will quit your impartiality and decide your vote?

Yep.  I hope you have found somewhere nice in London.  I can give you the number of a good removal man if you want?

Hertfordshire, London's a bit busy. I am sure I will manage.
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« Reply #786 on: September 09, 2014, 11:42:39 PM »

They have now lot a fire in a bin under their yes sign and are singing songs to a guitar right at my window.

This may be purgatory!
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« Reply #787 on: September 09, 2014, 11:57:13 PM »

 Cheesy

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« Reply #788 on: September 10, 2014, 04:17:27 AM »

Personally long term I hope Scotland wins the vote and becomes independent because it will make it so much more unlikely that England will ever have to suffer a labour government again as I am a devout Tory.  However I have significant financial interest in this election based on what I consider to be a reasonably well balanced view point and what I hope happens financially in the short term isn't necessarily my views longer term. I think this is why politics betting provides potentially such rich rewards to the unbiased observer as the pie chart produced earlier on TFT shows how emotional most punters are on such matters.

Yet more nonsense.  If England wants a Labour government it will get a Labour Government.  Are you attempting to re-write history?  

You are right they will still get one but England will have to want one so much more harder if Scotland are not present in the equation to actually get one and win probably 40 seats more than if Scotland were still in the club. You bite too easily kmac you are worse than my brother when he was seven for winding up.

I just sniff out bulshit.  I have a very low tolerance level to it.

What bs are you sniffing? If Scotland leave the uk it's 1000% fact that is way more unlikely everything else being equal that a labour government will be returned. Even someone as deluded and one dimensional as you must realise that. It's a simple numbers game.  If I offered you 2/1 the no vote you wouldn't back it because you are not logical. I get that it's not a problem but please stop making ur self look silly with your comments.

Your trolling's getting more obvious, but what the hell - the facts show where the bs in your statement lies since ww2 there have been 18 general elections, in only 1 of them has the Scottish vote swung the balance of power from Tory majority to Labour, (from 1 tory majority to 4 labour - a government which only lasted 18 months) so it does not make it way more unlikely at all. It makes it only slightly more unlikely.

Go shrewdie..... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #789 on: September 10, 2014, 04:18:06 AM »

Cheesy



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« Reply #790 on: September 10, 2014, 09:10:52 AM »

Personally long term I hope Scotland wins the vote and becomes independent because it will make it so much more unlikely that England will ever have to suffer a labour government again as I am a devout Tory.  However I have significant financial interest in this election based on what I consider to be a reasonably well balanced view point and what I hope happens financially in the short term isn't necessarily my views longer term. I think this is why politics betting provides potentially such rich rewards to the unbiased observer as the pie chart produced earlier on TFT shows how emotional most punters are on such matters.

Yet more nonsense.  If England wants a Labour government it will get a Labour Government.  Are you attempting to re-write history?  

You are right they will still get one but England will have to want one so much more harder if Scotland are not present in the equation to actually get one and win probably 40 seats more than if Scotland were still in the club. You bite too easily kmac you are worse than my brother when he was seven for winding up.

I just sniff out bulshit.  I have a very low tolerance level to it.

What bs are you sniffing? If Scotland leave the uk it's 1000% fact that is way more unlikely everything else being equal that a labour government will be returned. Even someone as deluded and one dimensional as you must realise that. It's a simple numbers game.  If I offered you 2/1 the no vote you wouldn't back it because you are not logical. I get that it's not a problem but please stop making ur self look silly with your comments.

Your trolling's getting more obvious, but what the hell - the facts show where the bs in your statement lies since ww2 there have been 18 general elections, in only 1 of them has the Scottish vote swung the balance of power from Tory majority to Labour, (from 1 tory majority to 4 labour - a government which only lasted 18 months) so it does not make it way more unlikely at all. It makes it only slightly more unlikely.

Go shrewdie..... Roll Eyes

Tories would have had a majority in 2010, plus it changed result in 1964 and 1974 (I think).  So that's 2 Labour governments out of the last 8.  It having an impact on 25% of elections isn't insignificant.  And that's without the impact of 2010.  The elections Tories won can be ignored, as having no Scottish MPs would just have given them a bigger victory.
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« Reply #791 on: September 10, 2014, 12:07:51 PM »

Personally long term I hope Scotland wins the vote and becomes independent because it will make it so much more unlikely that England will ever have to suffer a labour government again as I am a devout Tory.  However I have significant financial interest in this election based on what I consider to be a reasonably well balanced view point and what I hope happens financially in the short term isn't necessarily my views longer term. I think this is why politics betting provides potentially such rich rewards to the unbiased observer as the pie chart produced earlier on TFT shows how emotional most punters are on such matters.

Yet more nonsense.  If England wants a Labour government it will get a Labour Government.  Are you attempting to re-write history?  

You are right they will still get one but England will have to want one so much more harder if Scotland are not present in the equation to actually get one and win probably 40 seats more than if Scotland were still in the club. You bite too easily kmac you are worse than my brother when he was seven for winding up.

I just sniff out bulshit.  I have a very low tolerance level to it.

What bs are you sniffing? If Scotland leave the uk it's 1000% fact that is way more unlikely everything else being equal that a labour government will be returned. Even someone as deluded and one dimensional as you must realise that. It's a simple numbers game.  If I offered you 2/1 the no vote you wouldn't back it because you are not logical. I get that it's not a problem but please stop making ur self look silly with your comments.

Your trolling's getting more obvious, but what the hell - the facts show where the bs in your statement lies since ww2 there have been 18 general elections, in only 1 of them has the Scottish vote swung the balance of power from Tory majority to Labour, (from 1 tory majority to 4 labour - a government which only lasted 18 months) so it does not make it way more unlikely at all. It makes it only slightly more unlikely.

Go shrewdie..... Roll Eyes

 
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« Reply #792 on: September 10, 2014, 12:34:39 PM »

Personally long term I hope Scotland wins the vote and becomes independent because it will make it so much more unlikely that England will ever have to suffer a labour government again as I am a devout Tory.  However I have significant financial interest in this election based on what I consider to be a reasonably well balanced view point and what I hope happens financially in the short term isn't necessarily my views longer term. I think this is why politics betting provides potentially such rich rewards to the unbiased observer as the pie chart produced earlier on TFT shows how emotional most punters are on such matters.

Yet more nonsense.  If England wants a Labour government it will get a Labour Government.  Are you attempting to re-write history?  

You are right they will still get one but England will have to want one so much more harder if Scotland are not present in the equation to actually get one and win probably 40 seats more than if Scotland were still in the club. You bite too easily kmac you are worse than my brother when he was seven for winding up.

I just sniff out bulshit.  I have a very low tolerance level to it.

What bs are you sniffing? If Scotland leave the uk it's 1000% fact that is way more unlikely everything else being equal that a labour government will be returned. Even someone as deluded and one dimensional as you must realise that. It's a simple numbers game.  If I offered you 2/1 the no vote you wouldn't back it because you are not logical. I get that it's not a problem but please stop making ur self look silly with your comments.

Your trolling's getting more obvious, but what the hell - the facts show where the bs in your statement lies since ww2 there have been 18 general elections, in only 1 of them has the Scottish vote swung the balance of power from Tory majority to Labour, (from 1 tory majority to 4 labour - a government which only lasted 18 months) so it does not make it way more unlikely at all. It makes it only slightly more unlikely.

Go shrewdie..... Roll Eyes

Tories would have had a majority in 2010, plus it changed result in 1964 and 1974 (I think).  So that's 2 Labour governments out of the last 8.  It having an impact on 25% of elections isn't insignificant.  And that's without the impact of 2010.  The elections Tories won can be ignored, as having no Scottish MPs would just have given them a bigger victory.

Emotion is a dangerouS thing when it starts clouding people's judgement.  People can't see the wood for the trees then start calling people trolls who don't get emotional and just deal with the real facts.
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« Reply #793 on: September 10, 2014, 12:43:22 PM »

Two Jags plays a blinder suggests disbanding the Scottish football team to get together to merge with England. 

Bet they will be glad they let  that bumbling wreck come up on a day tripper.   Al we need now is Borris.

https://skynews.grabyo.com/g/v/9mDFHtctx8O
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« Reply #794 on: September 10, 2014, 12:51:13 PM »

This backs up everything I have found on doorsteps and meetings across Scotland.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/07/scottish-independence-referendum-research-more-information-likely-vote-yes
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