The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

delightful shade in a radio interview yesterday

Harman on 35yrs working with Corbyn: "I was working on progress for women & getting Labour into government so our paths didn't really cross"

[Sheriff Fatman]

delightful shade in a radio interview yesterday

Harman on 35yrs working with Corbyn: "I was working on progress for women & getting Labour into government so our paths didn't really cross"

That is wickedly brilliant.

[RickBFA]

Forgot to comment on Blair "rise up" speech.

Did make me smile though. The irony is that he completely ignored the British people rising up and protesting about the Iraq War. For this reason alone, the British people will not respond positively to his speech.

No double standards at all.

[MintTrav]

Forgot to comment on Blair "rise up" speech.

Did make me smile though. The irony is that he completely ignored the British people rising up and protesting about the Iraq War. For this reason alone, the British people will not respond positively to his speech.

No double standards at all.

The irony that makes me smile is that most British people supported the Iraq War at the time, but now pretend they were against it.

No double standards at all.

[nirvana]

Forgot to comment on Blair "rise up" speech.

Did make me smile though. The irony is that he completely ignored the British people rising up and protesting about the Iraq War. For this reason alone, the British people will not respond positively to his speech.

No double standards at all.

The irony that makes me smile is that most British people supported the Iraq War at the time, but now pretend they were against it.

No double standards at all.

It's maybe more ironic that if most did support the war it would be because they were lied to about the reasons for war. Lies that have damaged millions of lives and destroyed an entire region. I can't smile about that

[The Camel]

Forgot to comment on Blair "rise up" speech.

Did make me smile though. The irony is that he completely ignored the British people rising up and protesting about the Iraq War. For this reason alone, the British people will not respond positively to his speech.

No double standards at all.

The irony that makes me smile is that most British people supported the Iraq War at the time, but now pretend they were against it.

No double standards at all.

It's maybe more ironic that if most did support the war it would be because they were lied to about the reasons for war. Lies that have damaged millions of lives and destroyed an entire region. I can't smile about that

Somewhat ironic that the public has been lied to about Brexit too.

In 20 years time 75% will be saying "Well, I voted against. What more could I do?"

[MintTrav]

Forgot to comment on Blair "rise up" speech.

Did make me smile though. The irony is that he completely ignored the British people rising up and protesting about the Iraq War. For this reason alone, the British people will not respond positively to his speech.

No double standards at all.

The irony that makes me smile is that most British people supported the Iraq War at the time, but now pretend they were against it.

No double standards at all.

It's maybe more ironic that if most did support the war it would be because they were lied to about the reasons for war. Lies that have damaged millions of lives and destroyed an entire region. I can't smile about that

So many issues we could argue about in those few sentences, but I can't see much point in picking through the details again.

People who try, opportunistically, to divert Blair's argument about the EU into an argument about the Iraq War are just being dishonest (jaw-droppingly so in the case of Boris).

[nirvana]

Forgot to comment on Blair "rise up" speech.

Did make me smile though. The irony is that he completely ignored the British people rising up and protesting about the Iraq War. For this reason alone, the British people will not respond positively to his speech.

No double standards at all.

The irony that makes me smile is that most British people supported the Iraq War at the time, but now pretend they were against it.

No double standards at all.

It's maybe more ironic that if most did support the war it would be because they were lied to about the reasons for war. Lies that have damaged millions of lives and destroyed an entire region. I can't smile about that

So many issues we could argue about in those few sentences, but I can't see much point in picking through the details again.

People who try, opportunistically, to divert Blair's argument about the EU into an argument about the Iraq War are just being dishonest (jaw-droppingly so in the case of Boris).

Fair enough. Obviously agree with yr second sentence

[RickBFA]

Forgot to comment on Blair "rise up" speech.

Did make me smile though. The irony is that he completely ignored the British people rising up and protesting about the Iraq War. For this reason alone, the British people will not respond positively to his speech.

No double standards at all.

The irony that makes me smile is that most British people supported the Iraq War at the time, but now pretend they were against it.

No double standards at all.

It's maybe more ironic that if most did support the war it would be because they were lied to about the reasons for war. Lies that have damaged millions of lives and destroyed an entire region. I can't smile about that

So many issues we could argue about in those few sentences, but I can't see much point in picking through the details again.

People who try, opportunistically, to divert Blair's argument about the EU into an argument about the Iraq War are just being dishonest (jaw-droppingly so in the case of Boris).

Clearly Brexit and Iraq War agruments are 2 separate things.

The point I was making was not his argument about Brexit but his call to rise up and try to change it.

I don't know the exact numbers on for/against the Iraq War but I think we saw the largest protests on the streets for decades, maybe ever.

People don't forget that Blair ignored those protests and are hardly likely to pay any attention to his calls given that history.

[RickBFA]

https://www.ipsos-mori.com/newsevents/ca/287/Iraq-The-Last-PreWar-Polls.aspx

These seem to be the poll numbers prior to Iraq War.

[MintTrav]

Comparison of average opinion polls Mar-Dec 2003 with how people in 2015 recalled it, ie not what they think now, but how they now report what they thought then.



https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/06/03/remembering-iraq/

[TightEnd]

Brexit negotiations might take 10 years - if we're lucky

"Sir Ivan Rogers patiently explains to the Brexit select committee exactly how the EU works, and why everything is going to end badly"

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/22/brexit-negotiations-might-take-10-years-if-were-lucky?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[TightEnd]

how many of these could you name if shown their face?

Click to see full-size image.

[DMorgan]

I got nine

Corbyn, Miliband, Khan, Smith, Ummuna, Watson, McDonnel, Thornberry and Starmer

If I hadn't seen that it was labour politicians I'd have guessed that Angela Eagle was the leader of the greens :/

Hit the post with Burnham, knew he was the hillsbrough guy that is running for mayor of manchester but couldn't put a name to him

[ripple11]

Sad to say I could manage the top 15 plus Dan Jarvis.

Struggled with the Blair Corbyn Babes