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As mentioned in www.skalie.org DTD are live streaming a cash game on Friday night from the club

"This Friday I shall be attending DTD to join in for their live cash game. It will be shown on Live steam on the DTD Poker site and although it won’t be the monster high stakes we often see on TV nowadays it could be worth a watch. If only to see how I tend to lose all of my money nowadays. Not sure who is gonna be playing in it but hopefully some complete beginners who don’t know the rules, though I doubt I will be that lucky. I shall blog my experience over the weekend and you can follow me on twitter @skalie"

I will post a line up when I get it
 

Brilliant idea and waiting for it to happen for ages.

When will the line up be announced?

yesssss whould be good

       I suspect information will be announced in advance or it will leak.............

I want in on the next one Tighty.. Put my name down :-)

             Simon these events rely on wealthy fishy whales not serious tournament hero's. Stick to winning comps and leave the aquarium to others.

Pot, kettle ;)


But actually, PLEASE get Gascoigne Snr on this. Would be excellent for the viewers.

         I can confirm I am in.

;tightend;

Good isn't bad, until it gets better.

good luck. Try get them to use better microphones for the players. The banter is the best thing about those cash games

can confirm I will also be playing

Cool ;boltpp;

As I wont be able to watch the live stream, how could i catch up with it at a later date if it is at all poss? Ty.

please be gentle :P

:hello:

is going to be a really fun game,

the point about the microphones is a good one - half the fun will be the table banter and rubdowns etc. anyway of improving this?

So jealous I'm missing this game... Will be watching on catch up for inevitable spew.

GL all.

i'll do a small crossbook vs anyone playing Mitch if you wanna have a sweat from the sidelines :P

He's only jealous because it'll probably mean comped food...

What are the stakes going to be. Also will it just run Friday or Saturday aswell. If people just turn up at the club will there be a waiting list?

Sorry, I have no money.

Lost it all at OFC.

Regards,
Mitchell Johnson aged 26.

<3

Enough punters on blonde to get me a seat? :P

Gg inheritance. Tempted to come up to babysit the cash watch...

Tom got hold of me and I'm playing this Friday, hopefully it will be a fun line up with noone sitting there and waiting for AA. Stakes will be 2-5 or 5-10 apparently + straddles :)

Yh, I'm look for QQ, KK, AKs as well, lets make a game of it

as if you gonna play Queeeeeens met.



sick advertising

Will there be commentary?

Would be cool to run a side game of the same stakes along side the next one, and have people voted off the streamed game every hour or so... Maybe lowest vpip and viewers choice alternating ala the big game.

MITCH
IAN GAS
ALEX G
DEADMAN
PEEJAY
ROB YONG
KURT GOODWIN
RASTAFISH

reserve list:
Tom High
Keith Mondeo
Stato 1
George 2 loose


that is all...

lol No thanks! Too many CHHHHarks

Might be a few problems getting that line up together...

Yeah I know... sigh... just the sharks who I would tune it to watch with popcorn in hand

Would like to see Paul Grummitt playing. Top bloke who would generate action and along with Rob & Ian would ensure that we see a flop every hand.

A good balance between commentary and table talk to keep viewers attention too. This might be not be as easy with a live stream as a studio production but hope its a regular thing.

not gonna get any work done Friday nght then  :)

sounds like a really terrible game lol

great idea and will look forward to this.

yeh no lildave? wheres the wallluuuue?!

eggxactly.

will you be playing in this game alex, any idea on the other participants?

yes, i'm playing, and yeh i know the lineup. dunno whether im supposed to say here or not though.

cant be many seats left with those already confirmed.

8 seater table, do you expect many reserves to get a game?

           My understanding is the list above was Liams dream line up.Not the actual one. At this stage I know of Rob Yong,Alex,Myself,Li'l Dave,and Skalie. Who knows,this is Pokerland.

yes they are the ones confirmed itt. Only 2 more for a game

how do you get a seat? :)

       Looks,charm,personality,bankroll and lack of poker skills.Hence
my selection.

alex will stand up for you to play

im broke and ugly but they still let me play.

Rastafish and Wadey are commentating on the game.

brilliant might turn the picture off and just listen to the sound :)

haha, brilliant

It'll be like watching football on ITV...

Omg lol. Hilarious!

When I go broke in the game I wanna get in there!

Sorry if it's been mentioned already on the thread, but what time does this game kick-off?

Finding out the time


The PR reads as follows

Live £2 / £5 Cash Game – Watch it online

Friday 22nd February live at Dusk Till Dawn

 This Friday we are holding a live £2 / £5 Texas Holdem Cash Game with a fantastic line up and live streaming & commentary so you can follow the action from home!

The Line Up

 
Rob Yong
Dave Nicholson
Jon Kalmar
Alex Goulder
Ian Gascoigne
Richard Berridge
Tom Walster
Sean Belton
 
Watch it Online

 The Cash Game will be streamed live at www.dusktilldawnpoker.com with commentary from two of Dusk Till Dawn’s highest winners and biggest personalities, Colburn “Rastafish” Tomlin and Wadey Ashraf.

 Rastafish has claimed many titles at Dusk Till Dawn including the prestigeous Monte Carlo in 2011, and recently starred in the Sky Poker Cash Game. Wadey won the inaguaral CPP in St.Kitts 2012 amongst many titles back in the UK and between them they have a lot to say on and off the poker table!

Just had it confirmed it's 7.30pm start with 1/2hr delay on stream so advertising stream from 8pm.

Anyone watching live at the club it starts at 7.30pm :)




There will also be competitions for online tournament entries and the like run on the stream chat box through the evening

Will Trigg or Keith be running a book?

me and lildave gonna sell some small %ages to blondeites for the community sweat, thread going up soon!

Rob, Simon wanted to know where his invite was. Give him a call if you need £5/£10 players desperate.

great stuff, will it be available to watch next day etc, will be out fri night but sooooo wanna watch it

it will be on past streams, usually c48hours after going out live.

cheers tighty

Have 1% of me and/or lildave's action in the game!
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=60395.msg1723166#msg1723166

Is this game going to happen every Friday?

The plan is to make it a regular thing, and also to expand it to the lower limits as well to get others involved.

That would be good to get it at all limits so everyone gets a chance at being on the stream.

LilDave Belton Alex G the big winners
Lolster Yong and Berridge the donators

          Ok here we go. I will be donating 50% of my winnings
to Teenage Cancer Trust and Help for Hero's. The rest of my winnings will
no doubt eventually end up with the 'Mitch I flop sets' fund which currently is not
a registered charity.. I am selling 0% of my action.
             It's going to be a fun game.If I don't win I will
donate one bag anyway.

Nice one Ian

+1

fking rofl at the mitch flop sets fund. def not a charitable organisation.


Gl Ian hope you stack them all many times! :D

What are the stakes? Tom asked me a few weeks ago and he said it depended on line up - what's been decided? I asked for £5-£10 + straddles and no nits but........do any of these guys play above 50p £1???  ;adamm; ;noflopshomer; ;madasahatstand;

 ;hattip;

We can crossbook if you wanna juice it up a bit Rob :P

Haha you mean MPP cash games

See you Friday  - travelling up from Wembley so may be little late :)

yes! haha fuck me gonna patent that before you get back to notts :D

see you friday, should be a laugh!

Hahaha Rob Yong ribbing already!!! This is going to be fun to watch.

Come on Iannnnnnn crushhhhhhh!!!!! That's a brilliant tribute and gesture!! Goodluck father gas!!

 ;hattip;

Great gesture Ian.

If you wouldn't mid donating to Alex and lildave as well that would be greatly apprieated also I have bills to pay!

Anyone know if you can watch this stream from outside the uk on a iphone?

 

Yeah awesome gesture by Ian.

I think Rob will try to stream roller the table and their could be some carnage. I'd like to see Belton win the world obv.

I will be supporting #TeamGascoigne

Actually the mitch flop sets fund works to help put disadvantaged children from single parent families through college.

Subtle whore reference itt.

A characteristic gesture, but magnificent all the same.

Hope you get the lot, Ian. Well, a bit, anyway.

Great gesture... Good luck

Looks good. Sorry if mentioned already but how long will the stream go on for roughly and will u upload to youtube like u do with the tourney event FTs

TONIGHT at DTD is our 1st Live Stream Cash Game

Its a 2/5 No Limit Hold'em game with the following initial line up

Rob Yong
Ian Gascoigne
Tom Walster
Sean Belton
David Nicholson
Jon Kalmar
Alex Goulder
Richard Berridge

Commentary & chat box with Colburn "Rastafish" Tomlin & Wadey Ashraf.

The action will be streamed live on our Website from around 8pm - so if you're not in DTD playing tonight make sure you watch this game.
 If you do miss any of the game & wish to watch later it will be uploaded to our website & YouTube early next week.

Get behind this & we can make it a regular thing, plans are in place for a big PLO game & some smaller stakes Hold'em with opportunity for all to get involved & play the game itself.

        Commentary box should be an interesting mix. I might join them once I have doubled a few times.

please make sure Belton is the first person you double please :)

Lack of links to this on the DTD site, anyone got a direct one?..

Itll be here at 8pm http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/live.php (http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/live.php)

Looking forward to this.

ty

Thanks I'm in! Any idea on the finish time for this?

who is commentating. cant even here rastafish

Some commentary. Edgas and Rasta!

yeah as soon as he mentioned father it clicked.

cliffs on berridge? never heard of.

DTD regular.

"Aggro".

Played cash in Nottingham since way before DTD.

Im expecting the game to run late into the morning maybe 3am/4am

Chat box to should be open shortly & Nicola has a few ideas for competitions for you all to take part in


Just with a view to further Stream Cash Games - I'm considering doing a regular Blonde poster ONLY 1/2 Hold'em game in the near future if it gets enough support

Please recommend Players & Commentators you think should get involved (serious ones only please & real names would help as I'm fairly new to Blonde & dont know everyone yet)

Tom

get rastafish to turn his microphone on

Loving Edgas in the commentary booth. Incredible night ahead I'm sure

Just logged on, does everyone know who started with what?

Deffo up for doing my nuts to this.

Ditto!

If anyone could post what people are in for and what people are currently stacking that would be greatly apprieated! Going out now for 3 hours!

lol Rastafish 'my spirit says I've gotta call'  :D good lad

+1

Rich Berridge £4K - 4.1k
Sean Belton £1K - 900
Alex Goulder £1.5K - 2.1k
Dave £2.6K - 2.1k
Skalie £1K -  1.7k
Ian Gascoigne £2K - 2.2k
Tom Walster £2K -  835

Ed very good commentator - the two work well in there.

Sadly, it's got kinda boring for me. I understand that it's a big game for some and also that it's being streamed - but FML there is some really weak/passive play going on right now. Needs Rob in there to wake it up.

Does Rasta get about reverse implied odds?

Who cares, he's fun to listen to.  :)

That's Ed's domain Dom :D

I care...so there!

Nah don't really, just am lil confused how he doesn't seem to get it when giving 'crit' over hands, seems to be advocating always playing on feel and not caring about position nor above mentioned rev implied odds with hands like J9.

He's entertaining to a degree but i've only been listening 5 minutes and feel like my ears have been put through the ringer already, can't imagine he'd ever change his mind either-despite being given some very good advice from his co-commentator-in every situation they are seeing.

Don't be so results based Rasta, think/talk more about value and position please.


It's just scary to think that some ppl may listen to Rasta talk over feel and believe it's the way to go as it's from a 'name' and a commentator-example-'we believe we can hit'.

Above is obv what I want everyone to become disciples to, let's make poker like it was 7 years ago. :)

Guess so, depends whether you're looking for some proper poker talk or just a bit of entertainment over a couple of glasses of wine. I'm in the latter group  :)

Got ya! :)

how did belton lose 30% of stack/

I had 4 plans to get involved myself. Stato win, mitch win, me win super 50, spin up on lobster mania. McDonald's drive thru it is.

you having to hang around for Bettsy again?

Haha. Standard. The kid is a mincash magnet. Swear he does it just to tilt me. Missed corrie. Fml.

Is Li'l Dave actually wearing a chartreuse hoodie or is that a trick of the live stream?

More chance of me running marathons :D

This commentary is quite an education.

This is painful to watch.

Who gives a shit if the commentators are technically proficient and make perfect assessments?! The main thing is to be entertaining and describe the action and the flow of the game.

Link to stream?

http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/live.php

Thought Ed was very good in the booth.

Can you hear me, Mother?

Lol. Was the thread locked by accident last night?
I fell asleep about 3am I think, Did Rob reload and play again?

The thread was not locked at any stage, or not to the best of my knowledge.

Rob turned up then? Watched until 11 pm wasn't the most exciting thing, needed more Richard Berridge type players :)

it was definatly broken some how because you could not reply or quote and the only thing you could do was notify.
I pm'd tighty but he may have already gone to bed.

yeah when Rob got there he would pop it up and Richard would snap call behind him which got the action going. Alex, Sean & lildave all benefited but Rob got stacked and Richard left was about as far as I saw. Oh HoneyBadger took Richards seat. Anyone else know the final scores?

The PLO should be good next week

Also Rasta was enjoyable and worked well with Ed imo, like Woodsy said perfect watching whilst having a vino or two.
Looking forward o the PLO next week.

lol, whover selects the players next time someone remind them live streams are supposed to be entertaining. Really, Rob tried his best to save a sinking ship, and without Kalmer?Berridge (sp?) it could have been suicude watch. Watching AQ folded pre to a squeeze from K3 was hillarious though, Alex you uber nit, really...??

My comment was simply because it had been suggested that the thread was locked, & I wanted to test it.

I don't wish to argue, but I don't think those players were there to entertain, not at all, they were playing for serious money (relatively), we should not expect them to ham it up for a non-paying audience, that would be the tail wagging the dog.

I was recently much involved in piutting together a Televised Cash Game for Sky Sports, that was a different deal altogether, the Players were only selected & invited invited with the specific caveat that the primary purpose was to entertain. A different thing entirely.

All imo, of course.

Agree tony. This is a cash game which happens to be streamed live. Poker is pretty boring y'know

Ed really is very good, Rasta is great value and they definitely work well together.

Camel was comedy in the chat, as were the fake Steve Vladar, Carlo Citrone and Howard Plant :D

The game was pretty 'friendly' which was to be expected and I think the chat was similar to a colosseum in Rome, everyone just wanted blood quickly. Obviously Rob was expected in the game much earlier, once he did arrive things went mental for an hour or so, and then he dissappeared taking Rich Berridge with him.

I thought overall it was good for a first run which with some tweaking can only get better, Rob only turning up for an hour was obviously detrimental to the game but couldn't be helped. People said that the way the game played out wasn't dependent on Rob which I had said on the chat, I think that him turning up proved that it pretty much was though and it turned into a completely different game with his arrival.

The the amount of moaning about something provided for free was a little irritating, nobody was forced to watch and god forbid that the players aren't just rofling around with their own money. The majority of them are playing for a living, so they're not thinking about performing for the audience and are looking to nick a decent wage from a big game.

Live poker generally isn't too riveting, have you ever sat and watched 'Live at the Bike' for any period of time? It's pretty dull on the most part, but the difference here is knowing some of the players and it's fun to sweat them.

It is what it is, I enjoyed watching it on one screen whilst pottering about on another for a few hours and will watch next time too.

Will be good if its PLO next time, very rarely shown on tv so hopefully will be a good 'un.

Agree wholeheartedly with Lord Bedi, & Marky.

I never watched it, so I never saw the negative comments (except one or two on this thread), but it does not surprise me.

We (next door) were offered a weekly "Live at the Bike" Stream to put on our Channel, but watching regular live cash is not exactly riveting, or mainstream.

Yes, personally, I think that will make good viewing, though only because I am an Omaha pervert. I don't know the exact numbers, but I doubt that 2% or 3% of poker players are Omaha regulars, it is not a popular game.

For the minority, though, yes, it will be worth a watch.

It was a 2/5 game, no? When I agree it may be a lot of money for some, I got to disagree it's entertainment (or should be), it's there to promote DTD surely, and maybe the players, those playing underrolled or folding everything are no good for the game or the viewers, paying or not.

You can't blame the players. Whilst I agree I want it to be more fun its down to DTD selecting players that they know will be fun to watch.

I'm afraid I cannot agree with that.

Players are entitled to play tight if they wish. It may be out of fashion, but it's perfectly fine if that is how someone plays.

Should we really expect a guy, who is normally selective with his starting hands, to plonk down several thousand quid, & be told "spray it about son, we have an audience"?

PLO next week so should be fun
 will be good to learn live PLO

No I agree, what you're saying though isn't what my comments we're supposed to highlight. You just need to choose a better line up, if it's being streamed the viewers are asked to watch at least put some charachters in the game, I know you got them at DTD, I've seen them. There's a chance to do somehting to promote the club, this stream last night was just a cash game that happened to be streamed as George said, and that's a shame as it's been done so many times, the International live streams were fun, the live from the bike is full of charachters, so why couldn't there be a bit of thought and creativeness put into this one.

It's early days though, plenty of chance for DTD to redeam themsleves and make it a stream worth viewing from what is the UK's premiere groundbreaking poker club.

Waste of an opportunity if now..

I had this open on the side and I enjoyed it.  Rasta and Ed were entertaining, though when they went, the commentary wasn't so good. Always going to be snipers.  It really wasn't a tight game, or even close, but guess it could appear so if you are used to playing $2 tournaments.

 Cheers

I had a look for an hour before midnight. The reason it was a little lame from what I could see was the amount of uber dry flops.

K83 q82 etc. Not a lot of thin value betting on river either which is usually where the profit in NLHE cash lies. I got the feeling players did not want to put themselves in spots they would maybe normally take on due to the cameras.

Saying that hold em cash is a chore playing sometimes so viewing would be too at times. Will definitely tune in for PLO next week if Lil Dave is playing.

Well done dtd again for trying something new and ballsy.

DTD don't need to redeem themselves at all. Quite a ludicrous comment. They are trying something new, and will no doubt develop it if they think streaming the cash has a future

In terms of characters, the game had some of the biggest characters DTD has, and would have been close to the line up I would have chosen. Its up to DTD to find a line up it wants to stream, not the players to entertain once they are on it!

                  I am looking forward to eventually watching the stream.Interesting feedback on here. From my perspective the players where playing with their own money and it played out like a real normal Friday night game. I don't think the participants felt obliged to ' entertain' but just play poker with perhaps the pressure of not looking like a total donk.
                  As George has said watching live poker can be pretty dull.You are not watching the edited highlights of hundreds of hands but the tedium of marginal hands,dry flops and very few ' road crashes'. The players themselves commented on the absence of any really big interesting tussles for the viewers.I certainly avoided any cabaret poker and have had a major rub down from Ed on how I played a couple of hands (10,10) springs to mind.Sure there where many more.
                   Personally I think it will become more entertaining once the players get used to the format etc. There is no doubt that once Rob came it all kicked off but that was for little more than 30 minutes by which time he had doubled up Sean and Tom.It's a shame he wasn't there from the start although even Rob couldn't have maintained that level of intensity for a 7 hour stretch !
                      What the viewers saw was in effect the reality of a Friday night cash game.I admire DTD for attempting this,I was delighted to be asked and Teenage Cancer Trust and Help the Heroes are in the money. Also big shout out for Mitch's deep run in Baden. It's a shame he wasn't able to play this.
                         

I tuned in for an hour or so also. I thought the one guy Ed was really articulate and he worked in tandem with Rasta well. In terms of the audio one improvement I would make is to have the players miked up so from time to time you could dive into the banter at the table. This would work particularly well if you have characters. Commentators talk about the hand in progress and then you dive into the tabletalk with players discussing it or giving rubdowns etc. We know watching one table of live poker is kinda dull so mixing up the audio and the visuals as much as you can would help matters.

One thing people need to get straight is poker players are not there to entertain an audience. They are not professionally paid entertainers.

The other thing is that as a poker player you need to assess the info available to you and make the best decision for you. If you adapt your decisions because people are watching and you are factoring in the entertainment value then you are an infinitely worse player. One of the biggest weaknesses a player can have is caring what other people think of you. 

game should be 10/20/40 so less nitting about, was painful at times. Ed was really really good, Rasta obviously ridicuously tilting/clueless but god entertainment, Was tuned in for 3 hours or so.

As several have alluded, unedited cash game footage was never going to be bish bash bosh. Poker is just not like that, & never was. Edit 6 hours into an hour, & you have all the condensed bish bash bosh you would want.

Omaha, with it's added complexity, will be excellent for those who enjoy the 4 card game.

I watched from around 1am - 3am and I believe Marky summed it up perfectly

One other thing I would add is that if you are a pro player and ply your trade at DTD god only knows why you would sit down in a live streamed cash game at your place of business. It's akin to when Doyle Brunson released Super System or something. You are dishing out a shed load of info to your oppos and what do you get out of it?

Yeah, the reason why poker has such a mass following is because all the shows are highlights of big hands and scooping. Loads of excitement and adrenaline, but the reality is infinitely different. I remember Billy Baxter saying something like poker is a lifetime of waiting around for a minute of excitement. So kinda funny when people discover the reality of the game and think hold on this is boring. It's like when people phone those sex lines and imagine there's some smoking hot cutie flouncing about her room in a basque and suspenders when the reality is it's some old bag cooking the dinner. 

Watched from around 8 till I bust out of the 10 o'clock GP satellite - listened to a lot of Ed's stuff and thought he was excellent.
The deck needs rigging to generate action IMO - we want to see set over set and straight flush vs flush vs full house and stacks being lost.
Then cut to the CCTV in the car park and see weeping players seeking someone to tell their story to.

Definitely mic the players up, and one other plea. Ask the players who are hungry to leave the table to eat. Watching Alex scooping his rice or whatever was pretty off-putting. Not as bad as the stream a while back when that guy from Norfolk who doesn't play any more was eating his burger though.

Potentially a great way to throw your opponents off

When Rasta started talking about the upcoming Grand Pricks at DTD, I was thinking was this in the upcoming Omaha game? 

Presumably they don't need any boring old nits for that game?

Norman Whiteside / Scotty did not fit your remit as it turns out. People want to be entertained and this live cash game was billed as bit of fun.  I was entertained because I know The players and could appreciate the dynamics. The chat room had people wanting nitty players replaced and it was not till Rob got there were these people satisfied with their pound of flesh.

Ed was excellent and Rastafish delivered again early in the evening but I went to bed at 11.30 Ish and watched it on the phone with the sound off and no facility to chat on the phone.

100% great efforts from Sky and Dtd. I follow both but you can't please all the people all the time.


Edit. Fml Marky I was chatting to Steve Vladar and told him there should be more ladies involved.

Doobs the main guy flaming the nits had 1 Herbiemob flag in a £25 comp and almost put his link up when (fake) Steve put his up.

Rob is an enigma in his self. Obv busy man but I went to rail one of the £10k heads up matches a mate was playing. My mate got his chips and went and sat opposite Rob. Rob got up and said I won't be a minute. 90 mins later I went to find out where he was and he had gone home. To this day I don't think he even knew what he did. My mate was a bit miffed :)

For his part last night Rob did exactly what people expected especially the J9 v JJ all in pre and he has gtd that lots of people will tune in next time.

Who took over from Rastafish......Wadey was busy getting the chip lead at another comp.


Keep adding stuff to this but I could watch hours of Phil Hellmuth and Sam Grizzle and cards would be immaterial. I could watch those 2 guys watching paint dry for entertainment.

 I watched for about 4 hrs. Thought the game was decent. Have to praise Ed for his commentary skills along with rasta. Looking forward to the next game.

This is what I thought. Seems pretty egotistic to want to play. If I get to see some very good good PLO players next week I will probably watch purely to see how they play certain spots and starting hand requirements they implement.

It's great PR for the club. Did the players get free rake?

*blushes*

Really enjoyed stint in the booth. Will write a longer post with my thoughts on the stream concept when I get a chance.

Well done to DTD on further innovation/free content.

I watched a decent bit amount of it last night and really enjoyed it. Maybe it helps knowing the players etc, but for a first attempt it was pretty good.

Ed was great on commentary, we were saying how if you didnt know who he was, you would presume hes done it hundreds of times. Very clear, keeps the conversation going and worked well setting Rasta up for some comments, which were always entertaining, if not a little odd sometimes.

After these left there was a bit of a lul, and as everyone else has said, there werent as many big hand confrontations as you may expect, and there were obviously a few players who were playing a bit tighter than usual. Thats no blame on their part, it was getting a big game towards the end.

Looking forward to being involved next time, and suggesting a few things that could could be tweaked a little bit to make it a better view. Not sure how many people they were expecting to watch, but saw there were ~100 viewing most of the time, which i expect is pretty good for a first try.

on the stream it said they paid the usual fee. Skalie did his best with trying to get the dealers massive tips from a prop game he devised.


I never saw much egotistic cock waving tbh and if it was a porn movie I would say the fore play was over rated and the actual love making was over a bit too soon. Bit like my story really

I mostly lurk but had to post to say that I thought Ed did a great job- really articulate and genuinely interesting. I am fairly hesitant to criticize it too much in its first outing and I did quite enjoy it. It was certainly good to have it on in the background although I can imagine it might have been a tad dull watching intently. I would rather see a deep 1/2 game full of action and moves than a bit of a nitty 2/5 but understand the reasons for how it turned out and I look forward to further streams nonetheless.

fyp

<3

Oi Mantis! Don't be dissin' old bags what cook the dinner.

Lol

Tom did say that he would like to host a blonde forum members live stream which could be more entertaining for the guys here. There first person I suggested be thrown in the mix would be Dreenie. Her giving out advice to people if she suffers a bad beat would be comedy gold.

My thoughts on the game:

It played like a standard cash game, it wasn't nitty at all, I mean yes Sean probably played on the tight side because it was a big shot for him, but trust me, if it was edited into a one hour show no-one would complain it was too nitty.

This is a new thing - a live streamed cash game - and nobody is used to watching unedited footage, it's just totally standard that you'll get periods of play where everyone gets dealt 94o or everybody misses flops, or no hand vs hand situations for long periods of time. You don't notice it so much when you're playing, but when you're watching I can imagine it's pretty dull.

Another thing - I knew there'd be these general comments "it was so nitty", but if you actually watch it back and see the hands that were being dealt, there's not a single hand that I folded where I felt "that's a bit nitty", I mean I folded like QJo utg+1 a couple of times - but if people actually watch the hands, I mean I can't speak for anyone else, but there's no hand I played different because it was a big game, or because of the stream.

Table banter - it was excellent all night, and we were told the mics were up on the table so people could here - I take it that didn't happen - shame because I was putting in an effort on that front because although I'm never going to play up for the cameras by piling in thousands with 72o, I still wanna make the stream fun for people so if the cards weren't doing much, then that's one way to entertain people. I was also going round the club trying to find commentators because without commentators, the stream would die (unless Rob showed up) and I didn't actually want that to happen. So for next time, defo get the mics working better / mic us up, because there was some hilarious table banter (highlight being Gascoigne rinsing Rob about his phone).

Lineup - OK it didn't have huge characters like Rastafish and it was a shame Rob wasn't there for all of it, but I don't believe there's actually many players around who'll sit with a few grand and just splash about to entertain the viewers. I mean we struggle to get any sort of £2/5 game going at DTD at the moment, so getting a full table of jokers all with a few grand just isn't going to happen - if it was, I'd be making it happen every friday night trust me! You'll get a £1/1 or maybe £1/2 game where you can get a few characters to sit and entertain everyone and splash around - but then everyone would complain that the game was too small. You can't please all of the people all of the time etc etc...

About the comments about why would a pro play in this game and give away all this information-


Yeh, I agree. Really annoying to give that information away to the public. Will give it a miss next time.

Hello!

It was a fun game, IDK if you could hear the table talk but it was really hilarious and the game WAS lively.

As for a spectacle to watch I was well aware it wouldn't be amazing viewing, a few natural problems arised, firstly for a LONG time (maybe as long as 5 hours) me and Walster were the only losers, obviously I'm not going to steam off and Tom potentially could have done but kept his head impressively well so everyone is playing cagier because they are winning. We had no help for the action from the cards, no big hands colliding, I know that for the last 4 hours I was incredibly card-dead, and no sick coups to get big pots/people steaming and active.

Berridge lost that big pot to alex so that could have gotten it going but then he won a big pot off me the very next hand to settle himself down, people say they want action but its a deepstacked NLHE game, the cards are always going to rule the action, I think I had about 5 decent squeeze opportunities all game pre-flop and took about 4 of them, as much as I'd like to I reallly can't squeeze a berridge open with J4o cos i'm setting my money on fire.

I think I was defo the most active player behind Berridge (who was in every pot) I was playing pretty lose pre-flop, straddling every hand but I didn't make any super bluffs or anything because the spots were never there, nlhe cash games are like that, if the action's dry you just slog it out, I raised berridge on a few flops and got 3bet or called and beaten nearly every time, floated skalie and bet a turn ran into quads, squeezed Rob and Berridge pre-flop twice with KQo and J8s and Rob made it £25,000 to play both times afterwards.

Whoever commented about the AQ hand alex folded is being stupidly results orientated, if I'd have had KK then you'd be saying wow good pass Alex, we're playing £2.5k effective and he is OOP with a pretty face up hand, what's he sposed to do, in a tourney he prolly wouldn't have been able to pass that hand, but it's a cash game - the spot isn't right so fold and move on - that's how these games play.

Obviously the game livened up when Rob sat down, but rob played every hand and put a few people all in, that was obviously going to liven it up - like Ian says even Rob couldn't have played at that level of intensity for 1hr+ when he quit, berridge quits too and it's just me and 5 players left all of whom are winning - so was destined to die from that point, nothing to do specifically with rob.

I agree the omaha one will be good! Hopefully am asked to play!

The thing about the commentary is its not a professional production, it's just a couple of local lads throwing their hat in the ring. I think considering that they did pretty well, people need to realise that and cut them some slack. If people are expecting DTD to employ professional commentators then that ain't going to happen.

I'm loving the fact that some people watched it for 2,3 or 4 hours on a Friday night, then comment it wasn't very good.

Watched a little last night,  thought Ed was absolute gold in the commentary booth, game was a little slow most probably due tothe fact I'm used to watching a full nights poker edited down into an hour.  Overall good effort...

fwiw the deeper the stpr is the more boring/passive the game is going to be as they aren't 21 year old whizzkids 2x potting the turn etc, its lots of limping etc.

Should lower the cap of the buy in so we see more all ins and gambling to get deeper.

Enjoyed the few hours I watched whilst I was playing online last night ed was brilliant in the com box,people have to remember these players are playing with their own cash and not just going to set money on fire for a few hundreds entertainment on a live stream

Would be good if the PLO was 6-max

Alex, is it your conviction that the only information available from watching a live stream is that you raised with kings? Or that people get their money in when the deck is cold? I mean if I played against you and this Berridge dude every week I would see two people with nut hands. I would then study if there are any subtle changes in body language, bet timing/sizing, speech play or whatever compared with your medium strength hands compared to your weak hands. I would also study what range of hands each player has in a variety of spots. Of course every player will always maintain they have zero tells and play every hand identical whether they are weak or strong and play totally different every time they sit down because that is what poker players are like.

There is no need for people to get defensive when a reasonable point is made. I think it's a reasonable question to ask why would a pro give such info away and what was the motivation to make it fun for people. Your answer is saying there is nothing worth picking up from watching behaviour in relation to cards at the table. If that is true what is the skill of live poker? Think you fellas are giving a lot away to promote the poker club and are getting little to nothing out of it, even getting stung for rake along the way. If this format continues I think you players could rightly demand no rake and comp food/drink at the very least. Think people asking what is the benefit is just an ok normal question.

Also people might want to come and have some fun playing with a local pro having a splash and maybe beating him out of a pot or two.

Yes it was a reasonable question, but my point (that I put in a rather silly way I admit) was that I believe that the value gained from playing in a game like that is going to be greater than the value of the information I'll give away.

Also, if I believe that I'm playing against someone shrewd enough to have studied all that for tells / betting patterns, then I'll probably be playing pretty balanced vs them anyway just as a default. So it doesn't matter that they've seen me make an unbalanced turn betsize or whatever vs someone else, because I will be playing different vs them.

I mean I could be wrong, and maybe there's people sitting in my cash games every week just ripping me apart because they've followed all the live streams and read every HH I post on blonde, but I haven't noticed it yet, and actually I think it works in my favour, because make bad adjustments vs a well known face, or someone they know is a pro / has had success or whatever, and it actually makes it easier.

Overall I actually think it's good for us too, and we did get free food and drink (and chocolate eclairs handed round and the end of the night :D) and the exposure is great too - at the end of the day, we're egotistical, and love being on TV and people watching us :D

All the work you're putting in, get the invoices out and start charging Rob by the hour too when you play  ::)

Hi

I'm more of a lurker here but coming from the point of view of not knowing anyone who played personally, I thought the stream was good.  I had it on from 8pm until 2am or 3am (obviously on while grinding so wasn't completely focused on it).  I'm not sure what some of the people in the live chat were expecting to be truthful, this was a typical deep stacked cash game.  There was plenty of good poker on show but it wasn't a highlight show and most pots in poker are pretty uneventful.

There was a ton so typical to these games on show, the fuzzy feeling you get after being dealt a decent hand the hand right after you have aces cracked, the warm feeling you get when the most active player on the table is piling money into a pot where you hold the nuts, the numbness of being card dead, getting a marginal which now looks like aces and having one of the tightest players start firing.  It was how cash games happen.

From a technical standpoint I would say someone has to look after the sound for the broadcast.  Table mics need to be ramped right up plus there was occasional drop off in the booth.  Ed was exceptional in the anchor role in the booth and really worked well with Rasta.  Also Rasta suddenly talking like he was an announcer for the BBC in the 1940s every now and again when he was reading the iPoker stuff gave me plenty of chuckles.

I think also a benifit to the players is that there was say on average 100 people watching the stream if just 1/2 of them decide that they wanna come play pokers at Dtd on a Friday in the 1/2 2/5 games it directly affects these guys livelihood even more so then if somebody studies any tell Alex has.

Btw you have this tell. When you put 2.5k in on a flop you always seem to have kk!

Thought Ed and Rasta were great in the booth.

Enjoyed having it on the side while grinding.

I watched the last few hours when the game was pretty damn deep and not many coolers. From a viewers standpoint I think it would be nice to see an ante introduced.

couldnt agree more

Do you think the obligation should be on customers to work hard to attract new business to somebody else's commercial venture? I think a lot of businesses these days are wise to getting customers to work within their business for free. A classic example is the self-service checkout at Tesco. The management must be fist-pumping this development hard because customers are doing the job of a checkout girl for free. Don't think it's a bad idea but would deffo draw the line at having to pay an entrance fee to use the self checkout and do the job of a checkout girl on behalf of Tesco.

If these fellas really are able to attract half the audience watching to attend DTD why are DTD charging them to perform that service? Personally think these guys are in a strong position moving forward and shouldn't sell themselves short because they wanna get their face on the telly.

I agree mantis I think the game should be rake-free :P

Tesco self-checkouts are fucking ridiculously tilting, I refuse to use them on the principals you outlined.

ok we'll rally for rake free next time, with me dave? :D

Thought Ed & Rastafish were fantastic in the box. Ed was a natural and spoke brilliantly about the game. When the game was slow they really kept the game alive and interesting.

Well done to them both!

Firstly, thank you all again for kind words. Unless this is one massive and terrifically well co-ordinated level (perfectly plausible), you are all very kind.

So....

Being 'in the booth'

Very interesting indeed. I was rather blindsided by the request to commentate - arrive, walk through the door, Ian/Tom say "you're commentating", though I was certainly willing :) If I'm perfectly honest I have very little recollection of any 'colour content' I offered up, so apologies if there was a lot of nonsense in there!! In terms of the technical aspects of the game I am a mere poker enthusiast. At no point have I been a 'pro', though I am certainly fascinated by the game. From a purely personal/selfish perspective it was really interesting being in, and yet out, of the game. I'm sure I made the point several times that decisions are easier away from the felt, but I really can't emphasise this enough. I have watched streams in the past and 'seen' things clearly in my head, but I can assure you 'seeing' things clearly enough to articulate them well is bloomin' tough - imagine how tough it is in those spots to actually be in the game with your own dollar on the line!!

The game itself

The vast majority of poker games are hella dull. That's just how it is. This game was a full-ring NLHE cash game played slightly outside the comfort zone of a number of players present. That is in no way a judgement on their decision to play in the game, rather it is a simple statement of fact. Many will assume that this is the reason the game was perhaps a little staid at times, I would disagree.

I can only speak for the first 4hrs (the period I commentated)....but I remember just one cooler (Ian's AA Vs LilD's AKss), and even that hand featured a v. curious run-out that in this kind of game killed the action. It was actually, imo, a fascinating hand, but owing to the fact it didn't feature all the money going in, it was more interesting from a theoretical standpoint than a 'pain' standpoint. It sounds like things hotted up somewhat later in the evening, but the fact remains that live-streamed affordable stakes NLHE will always be a spectacle only for the 'purist'/(s)he who is familiar with the players. I go back to my original point....the vast majority of poker games are hella dull.

The stream itself

Difficult to be too sure as I was the otherside of the 'wall', but it felt like the stream itself (ie. video content, graphics etc.) worked pretty well? If people noticed specific items that they felt were tweakable and flag them up I'm sure DTD are all ears. Only one from my side would be a button that could acknowledge when a straddle has been posted as it aids in comprehension of the action :)

The standard of play

Pretty darn good I thought. I am no great authority so the next couple of sentences are essentially worthless but I was particularly impressed by three plays that, though they may not have featured heavily in the coverage (owing to its non-bias by dint of being broadcast live), were pretty strong.

Relatively early in the game LilD opened the  Ahrt 7h and fired two barrels on something like  2d 6h  9d 4h

In itself many won't see this as anything particularly special (open/cbet/2nd barrell I would think are pretty stnd), for the way the game was playing this was pretty perfect and represented good aggressive play netting a nice return relative to the pots that had been played thus far.

A little later Alex opened the  Kc 3c and Ian 3bet the  Th Td small from the SB. Ian had recently lost a sizeable pot and those listening carefully will have witnessed a genuine and uncanny prolepsis from me that this coup would end badly. Alex peeled the 3bet IP, cbet the flop and floated the small c/r, before barrelling the turn (which brought him a FD and a gutshot) strongly, eventually seeing Ian fold the best hand.

There was an open and a call when Skalie 3b the  6s 7s from the BTN. I think three came along incl Tom with the  Ac 2c and LilD with the  Aspades 2s

Something like  Ahrt 4h 4s checked through to Skalie who got the half pot c-bet through, taking advantage of initiative and position. Well played that man.


If you want to watch cooler central / pots played out with 'fake' money, you can head over to pokertube.com for any manner of historical content. If you'd like to watch an interesting insight into a game that isn't that different from the one you play of an evening at the casino, I'd think this stream is a pretty darn good option. Wp DTD.

One thing I noticed from the stream was that due to the delay, you were commenting on posts on the live chat when they were being posted but we weren't hearing that comment for 30 minutes. Was quite confusing at first!

Ah yis! I do remember doing that for a while, then realising it wouldn't be working so well.....then forgetting said realisation shortly after before repeating the original mistake!!

Confirmed beyond a joke, abs worst idea ever.

Missing out on banana beat tho.

yeah. when it says "unexpected item in bagging area", kicking it hard just gets you slapped on the back of the head and longer wait while you have to be moved to a different till

I am on the website looking for the live stream for 2/5 game mentioned, but I dare not look back at previous pages if there are spoilers.

Would appreciate any linkage.

Not sure its up yet is it?

Ah makes sense, thought it would have been my mistake.

stealing you mean?

Yeah, banana meat* .  Weigh everything through as loose fruit or veg.

Some of my workmates were at it when we were away. Highly amusing when one of them got caught putting a cooked chicken through as loose onions. Pleaded ignorance and got away with it though.

Not something I would do personally.

wtf, self ck outs are incred. its soooo tilting queuing behind 2 or 3 people who each have a million quids worth of shopping.

thats almost as bad as putting the porno mag inside the angling times

This!

They're normally pretty empty, so you can just smash your stuff through and be out of the door lively!

If only in your case the Angling Times were a fishing magazine...

:P

:)

Very harsh to call a reasonable comment out as ridiculous, I;m clearly not the only one who thought the same. But really what they did wasn't up to the usual standards, and to back up the ridiculous comment with confirming my thoughts regarding player choice shows not only a contradictory stance, but also disprespect a viewrs attempt to make some constructive criticism, I speak my mind and sometimes that initial reaction/view can be altered with rerason. In this case tighty with all due respect you#re way off the mark, ridiculous, and unreasonable abuse for what reason...

To be fair would of been interesting to have a waiting list and vote people off,loads of things to change inc lineup/potential ante/structure etc but it was the first time so cant really criticise as it can only get better and hopefully will keep progressing.

If it had the same lineup everytime then zzzzzzz

Wp dtd and all involved for a cracking first attempt though.

Vote offs are ridiculous for the players. They're getting nothing out of it as it is. It's a live stream
For FREE not a TV show. Can't believe all the hate. If its boring u switch it off

I assumed the players were getting paid to appear!

Why don't they just leave it open to whoever wants to play, rather than picking the line up? People can come and go as they want.

Some got paid well.

When is this going up on youtube?

here it is mate


http://youtu.be/mQZmCJUSC6g

haha I just wanna hear Ed! I've heard he's "the best they've ever had" on there, so wanna get some tips!

he was good for sure but I don't think there has been anyone terrible in there. You need Tighty in there as the resident guy because he plays the part very well bringing out the best in his co commentators.

You won't please all the people all the time and as long as they keep mixing it up with legends of poker and legends of comedy then I will keep tuning in.

You won't need to worry more about what you are gonna be wearing on the stream seeing as the Monte Carlo ain't far off. ;)

I think most people seem to agree you need an anchor man like Tighty or Ed, I can play that role too, and then perhaps rolling stream of guests who do an hour each, like Rastafish, Wadey, Stato, PJ whoever really.

is PJ they one that slagged me off. My mate can't tell the difference between you, PJ, Tom High and Tom Kugelstadt. Only person he is 100% certain was there was the big guys who is always eating and never loses :) (and also has a cloudy memory).

Tom Kugelstadt is beefier than me thigh and PJ (not hard) and yes eats a lot, but not as much as mitch or stato. Doubt PJ ever slagged you off in public / to your face :D

Paul Jackson.

Cash games just don't make for good viewing very often.

Tournaments are far more conducive because rising blinds put players under chip pressure and force them to make moves.

In cash games you can wait hours without seeing a decent hand - hence it's boring viewing.

Also, there is a fixed ending point in tournaments, with one guy ending up the winner. This is obviously never the case in cash games.

Player x won 2 grand, player y lost 3 grand. Unless I have a piece of someone it's "Meh. So what?"

I watched for about an hour and sad to say the chat room bust up between Carlo Citrone and Steve Vladar was far more entertaining than the game we were watching!

Also having it at high stakes instantly narrows the options for who will play, and how loose they will play.

If there's a 1/2 game played sign up Ian and me and we will level the shit out of each other for hours.

Kthxbye

Yeah, I think a 1/1 or 1/2 streamed game will be more interesting for viewers potentially - especially as they're capped and therefore people aren't playing as deep (at least not to start with), so that will generate more action.

DC game might be of interest if the commentators are able to explain the variants to the audience.

I think the comments about the game being out of people's comfort zone are just wrong tbh. Everyone there (except sean i think) has played in bigger games than that and I personally can't remember any play I thought was particularly passive.

Thing is like people have said it's a cash game not a tournament, the objective isn't really to try and win every chip on the table and play is always naturally a bit more cautious because mistakes are much more expensive for the most part in cash games over tournaments (except when you're deep ofc)

I think the PLO one will make great viewing, more all-ins and (semi)bluffs in PLO than in nlhe games for the most part.

dont think the DC will work on the stream :(

The arguments would be epic though.  Need the mics sorted for that :D

This is part of the reason the lower-stakes games might actually make better viewing.  Worse players, sitting shallower, means more action, more fun for the viewer.  Possibly.

god yh, it's all that splitting the pot that makes everyone so grumpy :D

I think that will be even less interesting, imo.

I'm with Camel, think it's boring as really.

Was going to watch the stream yesterday but didn't & not really sure I will now I know some of the stuff that has happened.

mmm I don't agree, the reason the game on friday wasn't that exciting was nothing to do with the stakes or the stack sizes, imo. Sometimes poker games are a bit boring, this was one of them...

So less interesting than something you didn't watch anyway?  Not really sure you're the target audience then...

I don't think there will be much money on a 1/1 table for people to see some decent pots.

I might watch this 2/5 now and again, but won't be watching the one from Friday as I stupidly read some of the stake thread from Alex and Dave, which kinda spoils it.

The 1/1 games are capped at £250, and I don't think the dollar-amount is that key for viewers.  The £2/5 is hardly High Stakes Poker, but it still generated interest.  Lots of people play the £1/2 game (capped at £500) or the 1/1 (capped at £250), and the fact that it's capped means that people aren't sat 500BB deep (at least not to start), meaning that there should be more 'exciting' action for the rec viewer (i.e. all-ins).

Also, the 1/1 or 1/2 game would have more people wanting to play, and there could be a constant stream of players on the waiting list so the table is always full and active.

Think there's an argument for all the different levels to be streamed really.

Will there be a streamed cash game this Friday night.

Can't imagine it running as DeepStack Day 1b on?

worse players you say. Rob and Richard made that stream interesting and fun for the neutral and gave them what they wanted. I would not say they were bad players by any stretch of the imagination and they captivated the audience.

Personally I would have liked to listen to more of what Skalie and lildave had to say but that's just me.

A soundbite montage of Rastafish's commentary

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHin6hErJME

Personally I'd have no interest in watching a stream of a 1/1 game. A 5/10 game with Rob Yong involved, much more interesting, the time that Rob was there was good viewing.

yeah this I agree with. Rob played his part very well and a long with Richard really did make the stream. They were like the two pantomime dames who wanted to stop Cinderella going to the ball and their cunning fan backfired.

We need to have more people who are mentally unstable who good blow at anytime. That would be good viewing too :)

Tasos mad Turk
And Linton rob young in the game plsssss

the problem is a cash game is so much more nuanced than a tournament with start/mid/end gambool points, at the end of a donky one donk is crowned the super king of run good donks on the day and people can watch and understand whos won, whereas cash is so much deeper stacked and less gambly. Hence it isn't as good for the general public to view.


reducing the stakes allows for people to play spewier, you could make it 500/1k but no one could afford to play, having multiple people in a game who are taking shots really isn't going to make for a good game in any way, and nor is it reasonable to have to expect Rob to run high stakes games and come in and punt just to make sure it's interesting for the viewers.


think that some 7 handed PLO has alot more options for fun and interesting pots, due to the nature of lots more flops and more post flop play. + lots of pot repot fishyness where the dealer then runs out 3 boards etc.

Starting to think it could be like an episode of Big Brother with a table of volatile's.

is the stream up yet anywhere?

i never repeat the same joke but so wanted to :)

Yeh it's up on YouTube, link via Dtd site. Think 4h 56 is a good bit :D

There is an Omaha game slated for next Friday. I'm in the commentary booth. Anyone wants to join me for part of the night, just let me know

Please Please try and get Chinese Frankie for at least an hour... Would be comedy...

He told me he is hoping to be playing. Just needs cover at the chippy

and you believed him?

lol. Fml. Wp

Too easy :)

;tightend;

 ;hattip;

Listening to Rastafish on the stream is just mental.
I FEEEL I CAN HIT THE FLOP.......

    Oh dear,now watching Alex eating.

If I don't play I'd do the commentary with you tighty.

ed very good in the booth I must say.

it's omahas you'd best be playing boy or I wont be watching xx

I will give details asap, but next weeks PLO game is going to be, to coin a phrase, "sick"

Great line up, plenty of splashy players, and a BIG game

Father and I keen to do a bit of commentary together at some point.... :)

Either that or bash each other up on a streamed £1/£2 game...

Morecambe & Wise reincarnated.

Not sure which one will be Wise.

Ian: "So how come we're in here?"
Ed: "Tighty's got athlete's voice."
Ian: "Athlete's voice?"
Ed: "Yeah, people hear his voice and want to run"

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What do you think of it so far?

I'm merging all the right ranges...but not necessarily in the right order.


This stuff writes itself. Got to be better than watching Vanessa Feltz dancing as Cher from the Turn Back Time video.

That did just happen.

oooh, too good. I saw that sketch again last week, & it has aged wonderfully, as good now as it was then, the timing is immaculate.

Wonder what he would have made of Rastafish

Arsenal

No need to swear

I'm reminded of a yoghurt advert featuring Joanna Lumley...

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcJyP6dTBYs

At least the Feltz was doing it for a good cause.

Indeed she was. Nearly got my vote too

I wonder just how many men have dreamt of that scene at 38 secs.

I'm sure Silvio Berlusconi has

When's. the PLO cash

a £10-10 game PLO was going to be tonight, but was postponed when it became clear that most were UKIPT/EPT/London festivalling

will be reconvened in the coming weeks. Looked a great splashy line up, too!

Ok we have the return of the DTD Stream Cash Game TONIGHT - The Deep 1/2 game (£400 min sit down) will be starting at 21.30 so with the usual delay will be available to watch from 22.00

The line up is as follows -

Mitch Johnson
Andy Hulme
Kurt Goodwin
Alex Goulder
Danny Ball
Sean Belton
Will Fry
Florian

If you can't watch it live it will be available to watch later in the week from the DTD website

Any local billionaires also welcome.

List?

Any news on commentators? Certainly looking forward to see how the game plays out.