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tikay
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Sensation at the Sandcastle - Blackpool Disqualification!
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December 30, 2006, 07:34:42 PM »
9 players returned at 3pm today for the Final of the 96 runner £300 Freezeout which began yesterday.
Chip second was, not unexpectedly, the mercurial Ali Mallu - but he was disqualified even before the Final resumed!
It seems he had a "dispute" in another Grosvenor Casino earlier this week, but thought no more of it, & played Thursday & Friday in Blackpool. Returning this afternoon for Day Two of the £300 Freezeout, (the Final) he was not allowed to enter the building, on the grounds that he was now "barred".
That's between him & Grosvenor, so we can't debate the reasons for that here, though suffice ro say there ar two versions, & the truth is probably between the two.
However, what WAS interesting was what would happen to the Comp, &, specifically, his chips. There were 576,000 chips in play, he had 135,000 of them (just shy of 25%), & we were playing for a prize pool of £30,000, including £3,000 generously added by Grosvenor.
The decision? Ali was "awarded" 9th place, (£800) & his chips were removed from the table.
Question 1 - Irrespective of the reason for, or correctness, of his Ban, do you feel it was right/fair that he got awarded 9th place Prize Money? Should he have got more, less, none at all?
Question 2 - Should his chips have been removed from the table?
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3) What should the other 8 players have done in this situation?.....
Above all, I do hope Ali & Grosvenor sort ou their differences. Grosvenor Comps without Ali Mallu just ain't as much fun as the could be. He's a formidable opponent, but one you wanna take on.
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Re: Sensation at the Sandcastle - Blackpool Disqualification!
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December 30, 2006, 07:39:35 PM »
Question 2..
Leaving the chips in play is bad news for all but the chip leader EV wise (by my reckoning)
Removing them is probably the fairest thing to for everyone.
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December 30, 2006, 07:43:23 PM »
It's such a bizzare situation, i think leaving them like he was late in arriving is probably the right thing.
If i were one of the other 8 i would press for a 9 way chip count and distribute the money purely based on chips, it's the right thing to do imo
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December 30, 2006, 07:46:29 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 30, 2006, 07:43:23 PM
It's such a bizzare situation, i think leaving them like he was late in arriving is probably the right thing.
If i were one of the other 8 i would press for a 9 way chip count and distribute the money purely based on chips, it's the right thing to do imo
It was suggested by some players, & rejected by others, that they shoul be left on the table.
Ditto the 9 way chop based on chip count was suggested & rejected by several.
A VERY unusual situation!
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December 30, 2006, 07:49:36 PM »
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though suffice ro say there ar two versions
How can there be 2 different versions?
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December 30, 2006, 07:50:02 PM »
who were the other players?
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Re: Sensation at the Sandcastle - Blackpool Disqualification!
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December 30, 2006, 07:50:14 PM »
Quote from: tikay on December 30, 2006, 07:34:42 PM
9 players returned at 3pm today for the Final of the 96 runner £300 Freezeout which began yesterday.
Chip second was, not unexpectedly, the mercurial Ali Mallu - but he was disqualified even before the Final resumed!
It seems he had a "dispute" in another Grosvenor Casino earlier this week, but thought no more of it, & played Thursday & Friday in Blackpool. Returning this afternoon for Day Two of the £300 Freezeout, (the Final) he was not allowed to enter the building, on the grounds that he was now "barred".
That's between him & Grosvenor, so we can't debate the reasons for that here, though suffice ro say there ar two versions, & the truth is probably between the two.
However, what WAS interesting was what would happen to the Comp, &, specifically, his chips. There were 576,000 chips in play, he had 135,000 of them (just shy of 25%), & we were playing for a prize pool of £30,000, including £3,000 generously added by Grosvenor.
The decision? Ali was "awarded" 9th place, (£800) & his chips were removed from the table.
Question 1 - Irrespective of the reason for, or correctness, of his Ban, do you feel it was right/fair that he got awarded 9th place Prize Money? Should he have got more, less, none at all?
Question 2 - Should his chips have been removed from the table?
And finally....
3) What should the other 8 players have done in this situation?.....
Above all, I do hope Ali & Grosvenor sort ou their differences. Grosvenor Comps without Ali Mallu just ain't as much fun as the could be. He's a formidable opponent, but one you wanna take on.
I think they did the right thing.
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Re: Sensation at the Sandcastle - Blackpool Disqualification!
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Quote from: tikay on December 30, 2006, 07:46:29 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 30, 2006, 07:43:23 PM
It's such a bizzare situation, i think leaving them like he was late in arriving is probably the right thing.
If i were one of the other 8 i would press for a 9 way chip count and distribute the money purely based on chips, it's the right thing to do imo
It was suggested by some players, & rejected by others, that they shoul be left on the table.
Ditto the 9 way chop based on chip count was suggested & rejected by several.
A VERY unusual situation!
The more i think about it the more i think the chips should be left on the table, its ludicrous to take them off.
The players who rejected the 9 way deal should be ashamed of themselves.
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December 30, 2006, 07:52:59 PM »
I am also shocked that Blackpool didnt let him in to finish of the comp, how can u let someone start a comp but not finish it, when the event that got him barred happened days before. If he had stood up and hit a dealer or something during this comp then fair enough, this is just crazy.
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December 30, 2006, 07:53:13 PM »
Quote from: byronkincaid on December 30, 2006, 07:49:36 PM
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though suffice ro say there ar two versions
How can there be 2 different versions?
Every story has two versions! One by Grosvenor, & one by Ali, which he told me. But as I don't know Grosvenor's side of the story, I can't really say any more.
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Re: Sensation at the Sandcastle - Blackpool Disqualification!
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December 30, 2006, 07:53:30 PM »
Tough one on Question one.
If someone is disqualified in 9th place, when they are found with aces and eights up their sleeves, do they still get the prize money?
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Quote from: Colchester Kev on December 30, 2006, 07:49:21 PM
who won ?
If I said I did, would you believe me?
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December 30, 2006, 07:56:07 PM »
I guess you could say Grosvenor Mallued him
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Re: Sensation at the Sandcastle - Blackpool Disqualification!
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December 30, 2006, 07:56:21 PM »
IMHO, If they let him start the comp, they must let him finish, UNLESS he commits an offence after he has started.
I don't think it's fair to let him enter, and then disqualify him when he makes the final in good shape.
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